and this is jsutified....b/v why?

El_Kabong

damn typos

http://img184.imageshack.us/img184/5682/israelisoldiersz10mp.jpg

and

http://img101.imageshack.us/img101/8520/7ea2fcca3mc.jpg



http://img234.imageshack.us/img234/729/90oq.jpg

http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/4567/176qq.jpg

http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e53/lebdvhs07/frightened.jpg

my2hands

beyond words

world

You need to realize that there are evil people in all walks of life in every country. To some Israeli solders, to a muslim terrorist, to a policeman, teachers, and all the way to some priests.

Evil people are everywhere, not just in the Israeli army.

NMyTree

my2hands wrote:

beyond words

Absolutely. The pictures are disturbing, to say the least.

But let's not forget that we have seen dozens of pictures of Muslims in similar aggressive positions, torturing, killing (or after killing) or intimidating others of the non-muslim faith.

It's easy to capture a still moment on film, then add commentary of the alleged accounts of what occured. We really don't know the facts relating to any of those pictures.

Propaganda is a two way street, everyone loves to drive.

El_Kabong

world wrote:

You need to realize that there are evil people in all walks of life in every country. To some Israeli solders, to a muslim terrorist, to a policeman, teachers, and all the way to some priests.

Evil people are everywhere, not just in the Israeli army.

i never said otherwise

keeponrockin

NMyTree wrote:

Absolutely. The pictures are disturbing, to say the least.

But let's not forget that we have seen dozens of pictures of Muslims in similar aggressive positions, torturing, killing (or after killing) or intimidating others of the non-muslim faith.

It's easy to capture a still moment on film, then add commentary of the alleged accounts of what occured. We really don't know the facts relating to any of those pictures.

Propaganda is a two way street, everyone loves to drive.

I agree with this guy. Propaganda is a dangerous tool.

cincybearcat

It's a truly messed up situation...but I'd be willing to bet that this stuff...

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/1197051.stm

Had some impact...now which came first the chicken or the egg?

NMyTree

cincybearcat wrote:

It's a truly messed up situation...but I'd be willing to bet that this stuff...

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/1197051.stm

Had some impact...now which came first the chicken or the egg?

Seems to support what I was saying, yesterday. Thanks for the link Cincybearcat.

El_Kabong

cincybearcat wrote:

It's a truly messed up situation...but I'd be willing to bet that this stuff...

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/1197051.stm

Had some impact...now which came first the chicken or the egg?

also interesting is that it doesnt list israel's responses and provocations. like you said, was it the chicken, the egg, or years of being under their boot heel?

obviously suicide bombings are wrong and i think groups like hezbollah prey on the poor living conditions and manipulate the feeling w/ that. but i think israel has it's fair share of blame, b/c if they weren't bulldozing palestinian homes to take land, ILLEGALLY, and if they weren't firing missiles into apartment complexes or setting of car bombs when a mosque lets out or firing into refugee camps just to kill 1 person, or if they didn't have all these checpoints and conditions that cause an overwhelming number of palesitian kids to live w/ sever malnutrition, if they didn't build a security fence on land that didn't belong to Israel...would there be such resentment to prey upon?

Israel makes no attempt to coexist, only bully. Maybe if Sharon hadn't marched into the 3rd holiest site in Islam w/ 1,000 armed men this current intifada would still have started...all i'm saying is israel helps provoke these actions. these ppl see their lives as being so horrible and then in comes the wolves of hezbollah saying things will never get better, show them your fury!

like w/ the us. don't give them a reason to hate you, if you only did good then you could honestly say 'look at what they're doing!' and get honest sympathy. but if i steal money from you and you hit me over it can i honestly cry about it? i knew what i did was wrong, and had i not done that wrong action more than likely i wouldn't have gotten hit, right?

and as i've said a million times it's sad that the average israeli and palesitinian have ot be dragged into this bullshit

rightondude

cincybearcat wrote:

It's a truly messed up situation...but I'd be willing to bet that this stuff...

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/1197051.stm

Had some impact...now which came first the chicken or the egg?

Actually a team of scientists have now collectively deduced and essentially proven that the egg came before the chicken.

http://www.cnn.com/2006/TECH/science/05/26/chicken.egg/

(Cliff Claven fact #25456)

rightondude

El_Kabong wrote:

damn typos

http://img101.imageshack.us/img101/8520/7ea2fcca3mc.jpg

I actually saw that on TV a couple of times. It was pretty freaked out. They just grabbed the guy dragged him around behind the car and whacked him, then planted a gun on him then chased away the all reporters and cameras. They actually threatened the reporter with violence before they killed him. The reporter actually made it look like has wasn't filming and was walking away but he managed to capture it still. I saw the ground level video of it. There must have been a guy in a building with a camera as well apparently. It's definitely the same guy. Video of this exists.

Israelis also use smoke screens in the streets to hide their actions as well, It was stated that it was common practice so people can't see the killings.

Yeah that guy got murdered in cold blood no question about it.

darkcrow

i think we (i mean the people in power) need to forget about "chicken and egg". both sides think it was the other that started it, but they both forget their actions are causing innocents to be murdered, because lets face it both the missile attackes by the terrorists and the bombardment by the israelies is murder.
the us needs to tell israel to stop, russia and the arab league need to tell hezbulah (sp?) to stop. forget about blame and jsut stop the killing. once that is stoped real negotiations can start about releasing women and children from prisons and releasing the israeli soldiers.
once that is done then all sides can get back to a 2 state solution and the demiliterization of hezbulah....

sounds so easy when you write it down doesnt it?