I feel that we have freedom to blame for many of our problems. With the freedom to make choices, we depend on our influences to guide us down the right path. Culture and Society are major factors in our processes of deliberation.
It may seem odd, but in the back of my mind, I understand the good of world-dictatorship, slavery and force. Just as China grew from war to become a proud and powerful nation.
Happiness is not born from material possessions, recognition, wealth or even love. It is birthed in the mind, in the prefrontal cortex, where the only requirement is the desire to live. We tell ourselves, in our slavery and under this dictatorship, that we are happy, and so we are.
Then I ask, what is better for the whole? Is it not what is undesirable for the individual? How can we choose what is in the interest of everyone, when the greatest influence on us, is ourselves and our self-servant nature.
I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
oh i dont care where you got the info from, i just like pop culture. reminded me of the good old days of being in junior high and trying to find girls to talk dirty to
You must use youtube differently than I do.
Everyone these days is using it because it is an easy way to post information and view it. If I want to see a clip from the daily show last week, one click and I'm there. If I want look up lectures by Howard Zinn same thing. It's an amazing new form of information sharing. The negatives of commercialism don't come close to outweighing the benefits in this case.
If you want to tell people the truth, make them laugh, otherwise they'll kill you.
Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
-Oscar Wilde
Everyone these days is using it because it is an easy way to post information and view it. If I want to see a clip from the daily show last week, one click and I'm there. If I want look up lectures by Howard Zinn same thing. It's an amazing new form of information sharing. The negatives of commercialism don't come close to outweighing the benefits in this case.
im not disputing that, i was just going on a tangent inspired by that dude's post. my main point is the dude in the original video is a freaking wierdo.
the whole culture is sick. All of it. I am for tearing up the roads and the concrete and planting flowers and food. I am for destroying civilization, and returning to our roots, a million plus small communes of maybe 20 people each. I am for the destruction of all oil, cars, and modern appliances.
The only way things will get better is if and when the revolution comes and we all are living in communes with no electricity, no cars, no oil, no tvs or computers, no roads, no wars.
Its not enough to be against the war or against the current occupant of the white house. Its not just the idea of Iraq that is wrong, its not just the idea of this culture that is wrong. Its the entire idea of civilization that is wrong.
I will be on the front lines with my rake and shovels, and picks, and axes and will be tearing up concrete when the revolution goes down...
Jesus, dude. How would you go about keeping this society locked into those ideals? What if one of those "new" farmers builds a tractor? How about doctors? Under medieval conditions, I'm kind of close to the end of my expected lifespan. What if I want to live past 40? Or take an aspirin?
Shit, what if I want to listen to music? I know it would be possible for Pearl Jam to put on acoustic shows under this new regime - but when would they have time to tour (no albums anymore, after all), what with all the work they have to put into their cilantro and rutabaga farms?
Jesus, dude. How would you go about keeping this society locked into those ideals? What if one of those "new" farmers builds a tractor? How about doctors? Under medieval conditions, I'm kind of close to the end of my expected lifespan. What if I want to live past 40? Or take an aspirin?
Shit, what if I want to listen to music? I know it would be possible for Pearl Jam to put on acoustic shows under this new regime - but when would they have time to tour (no albums anymore, after all), what with all the work they have to put into their cilantro and rutabaga farms?
dont you understand, he only wants the parts of culture that HE deems are acceptable and desirable. digital technology that allows him to spew this nonsense on here is ok. pearl jam's electric guitars and the power to amp them is ok. but the business necessary to provide that power is inherently evil and should be done away with. luckily for all of us, im pretty sure che has the magical incantation taught by the commune elders to draw electricity out of the air, so the pearl jam show is on!
Art embodies tensions between conflicting ideologies, residual, dominant and emergent. It very often necessarily depends on print capitalism and patronage, to put forward the heady clash between conservative discourses and radical potentiality.
Take Shakespeare. In 1601 there was a rebellion against Queen Elizabeth I, led by the Earl of Essex. On the eve of the planned uprising, the Earl's supporters/co-conspirators asked Shakespeare's theatre company, the Lord Chamberlain's Men (based at the Globe Theatre), to restage their old play about the deposition of a monarch, The Tragedy of King Richard the Second (c. 1595). Queen Elizabeth got the point: she said, "I am Richard II, know ye not that?" High profile, establishment artists put on a play about the deposition of a monarch on the eve of a planned deposition: culture is someone's friend, there, and it's not the patron's. (Don't forget that when Elizabeth died, the company became The King's Men, and Macbeth is often argued to have subtle digs at the witch-hunter James I's expense.)
Think about this: art is a tool of revolution but it is very often ironically licensed by the highest echelons of State. It can simultaneously be an ideological-domination effect of State-controlled "culture", but it can still contain elements of subversion. How does it subvert? By being out there in the public eye, and clever about its ability to subvert the dominant from within.
I don't think McKenna was thinking clearly here, and I've taken more acid than he ever did.
in it he says something to the effect of 'stop consuming culture, start creating your own'
standin above the crowd
he had a voice that was strong and loud and
i swallowed his facade cos i'm so
eager to identify with
someone above the crowd
someone who seemed to feel the same
someone prepared to lead the way
I feel that we have freedom to blame for many of our problems. With the freedom to make choices, we depend on our influences to guide us down the right path. Culture and Society are major factors in our processes of deliberation.
It may seem odd, but in the back of my mind, I understand the good of world-dictatorship, slavery and force. Just as China grew from war to become a proud and powerful nation.
Happiness is not born from material possessions, recognition, wealth or even love. It is birthed in the mind, in the prefrontal cortex, where the only requirement is the desire to live. We tell ourselves, in our slavery and under this dictatorship, that we are happy, and so we are.
Then I ask, what is better for the whole? Is it not what is undesirable for the individual? How can we choose what is in the interest of everyone, when the greatest influence on us, is ourselves and our self-servant nature.
I pretty much agree here. I consider there is an inverse relationship between what is good for individuals and societies. The more individual expresion and wants are indulged, teh worse off societies are. Societies have more integrity where indiviuals are less indulged. ( Sorry for the crap syntax here) .
Striking a balance here is really important. In Australia we have a conservative NAtional government which is like a general overseeing the army as a whole, and every state has a Labor government, which i perceive as being like sergent major's looknign after the individual soldiers at a platoon level. It seems to be working pretty well. Interestingly, all those parties are current ly winning by massive majorities, which means therea are an awful lot of people voting diffenent parties at different levels of govenrment.
he was. the solution to the world's problems is we all need to sit down and fingerpaint?
metaphorically perhaps we do.
but literally speaking, i know you could do with some creative therapy at times, it seems conor. getting immersed in paint is very cathartic for those who choose to allow it.
hear my name
take a good look
this could be the day
hold my hand
lie beside me
i just need to say
the whole culture is sick. All of it. I am for tearing up the roads and the concrete and planting flowers and food. I am for destroying civilization, and returning to our roots, a million plus small communes of maybe 20 people each. I am for the destruction of all oil, cars, and modern appliances.
The only way things will get better is if and when the revolution comes and we all are living in communes with no electricity, no cars, no oil, no tvs or computers, no roads, no wars.
Its not enough to be against the war or against the current occupant of the white house. Its not just the idea of Iraq that is wrong, its not just the idea of this culture that is wrong. Its the entire idea of civilization that is wrong.
I will be on the front lines with my rake and shovels, and picks, and axes and will be tearing up concrete when the revolution goes down...
Progress is a joke. It is impossible to continue at our current rate. Something has to give and will. Most scientists suggest that we have 10 years, yes kids 10 years, until the full effects of global warming take shape. We all must join communes and start growing food in our gardens. Its silly to go to the goddamn store and buy corn that some latino laborer picked, and got 10 cents for, while breaking his or her back in the sun all day. We have to grow our own food.
It makes complete sense, once you realize oil is running out, salmon are running out, and the world is in danger of killing itself, the appropriate actions can be taken.
I say, sell the tv and appliances, turn off the tv, and tune in. Tune into the things that dont broadcast in radio or tv waves. The joy of god is the form of his discovery!
All of this posted on a messageboard from a freaking COMPUTER kind of makes you a fish in a barrel, i'm afraid. i'll refrain from actually calling you out as hypocritical, but to save face, you better be running, like, windows 95 or something previous.
"When all your friends and sedatives mean well but make it worse... better find yourself a place to level out."
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It may seem odd, but in the back of my mind, I understand the good of world-dictatorship, slavery and force. Just as China grew from war to become a proud and powerful nation.
Happiness is not born from material possessions, recognition, wealth or even love. It is birthed in the mind, in the prefrontal cortex, where the only requirement is the desire to live. We tell ourselves, in our slavery and under this dictatorship, that we are happy, and so we are.
Then I ask, what is better for the whole? Is it not what is undesirable for the individual? How can we choose what is in the interest of everyone, when the greatest influence on us, is ourselves and our self-servant nature.
You must use youtube differently than I do.
Everyone these days is using it because it is an easy way to post information and view it. If I want to see a clip from the daily show last week, one click and I'm there. If I want look up lectures by Howard Zinn same thing. It's an amazing new form of information sharing. The negatives of commercialism don't come close to outweighing the benefits in this case.
Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
-Oscar Wilde
im not disputing that, i was just going on a tangent inspired by that dude's post. my main point is the dude in the original video is a freaking wierdo.
Shit, what if I want to listen to music? I know it would be possible for Pearl Jam to put on acoustic shows under this new regime - but when would they have time to tour (no albums anymore, after all), what with all the work they have to put into their cilantro and rutabaga farms?
dont you understand, he only wants the parts of culture that HE deems are acceptable and desirable. digital technology that allows him to spew this nonsense on here is ok. pearl jam's electric guitars and the power to amp them is ok. but the business necessary to provide that power is inherently evil and should be done away with. luckily for all of us, im pretty sure che has the magical incantation taught by the commune elders to draw electricity out of the air, so the pearl jam show is on!
i don't think that's how he meant it
this is just over 2 minutes
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ARIG-BQRATs
in it he says something to the effect of 'stop consuming culture, start creating your own'
he had a voice that was strong and loud and
i swallowed his facade cos i'm so
eager to identify with
someone above the crowd
someone who seemed to feel the same
someone prepared to lead the way
I pretty much agree here. I consider there is an inverse relationship between what is good for individuals and societies. The more individual expresion and wants are indulged, teh worse off societies are. Societies have more integrity where indiviuals are less indulged. ( Sorry for the crap syntax here) .
Striking a balance here is really important. In Australia we have a conservative NAtional government which is like a general overseeing the army as a whole, and every state has a Labor government, which i perceive as being like sergent major's looknign after the individual soldiers at a platoon level. It seems to be working pretty well. Interestingly, all those parties are current ly winning by massive majorities, which means therea are an awful lot of people voting diffenent parties at different levels of govenrment.
metaphorically perhaps we do.
but literally speaking, i know you could do with some creative therapy at times, it seems conor. getting immersed in paint is very cathartic for those who choose to allow it.
take a good look
this could be the day
hold my hand
lie beside me
i just need to say
All of this posted on a messageboard from a freaking COMPUTER kind of makes you a fish in a barrel, i'm afraid. i'll refrain from actually calling you out as hypocritical, but to save face, you better be running, like, windows 95 or something previous.