Antidepressants most prescribed among drugs

El_KabongEl_Kabong Posts: 4,141
edited July 2007 in A Moving Train
guess i'm not surprised but it doesn't seem like it's needed

http://www.mmm-online.com/Antidepressants-most-prescribed-during-doctor-and-hospital-visits-CDC-survey/article/24339/

Antidepressants were the most commonly prescribed medications during US hospital and doctor visits, according to statistics published Friday from the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC).

The survey examined 352 hospitals and about 1,200 physicians throughout 2005.
Of 2.4 billion drugs mentioned in patients’ medical records in 2005, 118 million were antidepressants. High blood pressure medications followed at 113 million and arthritis or headache drugs were mentioned in 110 million patient records.

The study also found that hospital and doctor visits have surged 20% in the past five years.

The report estimates that 1.2 billion visits were made to hospitals, emergency rooms and physicians’ offices in 2005.

The full CDC report is available online at http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/as/ad388.pdf.
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  • JeanieJeanie Posts: 9,446
    Doesn't surprise me. It's been suggested that I take them so many times, I have to wonder if there's a prescribing bonus for GP's that get you onto them.

    Not saying that they aren't extremely beneficial for some people sometimes, but I'll be holding out as long as I can and looking for as many other treatments for depression as possible before I'm willing to take them.
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  • know1know1 Posts: 6,794
    It doesn't surprise me at all. I think it's pathetic. I'll bet there are some people who need them, but probably not most.

    It's OK to feel sad once and awhile.
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  • blackredyellowblackredyellow Posts: 5,889
    Obviously depression is a real problem that some people have, but the diagnosis of it is getting overboard... what happened to just being in a bad mood or kind of a seasonal funk that we all tend to get in sometimes? With all of the pressure that our society (and ourselves) put on us, of course there are times that you are going to bottom out... it helps you grow to fight through it and come out on the other side. But I guess it's easier to just get a pill to make everything all better.

    I am a strong believer in the idea that you have to go through tough things in life to enjoy the good things that much more. If I never have a bad mood or am sad about things, then how am I going to know when I am really happy about something? You need something to compare it to.
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  • JeanieJeanie Posts: 9,446
    ...I am a strong believer in the idea that you have to go through tough things in life to enjoy the good things that much more. If I never have a bad mood or am sad about things, then how am I going to know when I am really happy about something? You need something to compare it to.

    I completely agree! And it's the argument I use with my gp the most! :)
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  • We can't say that depression doesn't exist but the medical profession are just giving people pills. How about dealing with the problems in people's lives rather than just offering a pill? I know more than one person who is prescribed anti-depressants when they clearly don't need pills, but some sort of direction in life and something to live for.
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  • mammasanmammasan Posts: 5,656
    Antidepressants are definitely over-prescribed. I personally have been diagnosed with depression. My depression led me into a really fucked up gambling addiction as a means of self medication. Right now I'm on Celexa and it definitely helps, even though I had a major fucking meltdown the past two days. My depression was near crippling. There where days when I couldn't even get out of bed and this would last for extended periods of time. The only positive I have noticed about this over-prescription trend is that the negative stigma once attached to people who took anti-depressants is no longer there. Still it is not healthy to be taking medications that you don't need. Even with my medication I have asked my doctor to decrease my dosage because the side effects where weirding me out. I would get incredible bursts of energy but by about 5:00 PM I would be drained to the point where I couldn't function. the lower doses have leveled that out a bit. These drugs are not candy and patients as well as doctors need to stop treating them that way.
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  • I am a strong believer in the idea that you have to go through tough things in life to enjoy the good things that much more. If I never have a bad mood or am sad about things, then how am I going to know when I am really happy about something? You need something to compare it to.

    Being Depressed is far different than being "in a bad mood" or "sad about things.". Until about 6 months ago, i would have agreed with you, but depression is a real thing, and to an extent, the drugs may be needed to even get you through the day. If you spend all day in bed (but rarely sleeping) being depressed, or god forbid, pondering suicide among other things, you dont even get the opportunity to find the root of the depression or fix your life.
  • Pacomc79Pacomc79 Posts: 9,404
    we keep running for the shelter of our mothers little helper....


    not that I have a problem with antidepressants helping people with real problems.... I just think it's ridiculously overprescribed... kind of like ritalin.


    There is a huge difference between chemical imbalance and general malaise brought on by events.
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  • RockinInCanadaRockinInCanada Posts: 2,016
    know1 wrote:
    It doesn't surprise me at all. I think it's pathetic. I'll bet there are some people who need them, but probably not most.

    It's OK to feel sad once and awhile.

    It is just not okay to feel sad....it is NATURAL.....disturbs me that so many go towards drugs to get over their life problems...the pills will only mask the pain until they run and the depression will remain...as an individual one needs to get over things naturally...not only does that ensure the most proper healing it will also strengthen your character as well...it will make you a stronger person...all anti-depressants do is lengthen the healing time....to go this route will only pro-long the emotional distress.....as for most don't I am willing to bet 95% of the users do not need them....its like I believe 95% of people over-weight can only blame themselves and only the other 5% can use the favorite "genetics" excuse.....
  • vedderfan10vedderfan10 Posts: 2,497
    of course there are times that you are going to bottom out... it helps you grow to fight through it and come out on the other side. But I guess it's easier to just get a pill to make everything all better.

    Yeah...you might consider doing little research on depression before saying things like that. In the end Depression may help you grow, but in most cases you "cannot come out on the other side" without some help. Depression is a chemical imbalance in the brain and it is an illness. If you had any other illness (or even a virus) you would take medication for it.

    Sure, if you're sad for a couple of days, there are some lazy doctors who would give you antidepressants, and that would be inappropriate. If you are sad, low, feel helpless, low energy, no motivation for two weeks or more, odds are you have depression.

    Living with recurrent depression is not always easy, but I am so glad that there is something that can help me deal with it better. If I had not taken medication at the beginning of this whole thing, well, I'd be dead - and I certainly would not be in the right frame of mind to augment my medications with counselling, exercise, and a healthy diet. When I had my first bout of depression, I refused to take meds -- and I ended up getting worse and worse, and it was very hard to live my life. The meds provided a means to actually sleep though the night, and cleared up my muddled thoughts.

    Even if you a rock star/famous musician, you can get depression - and I'd hazard to guess that most of them have taken or are taking antidepressants.

    They are not all bad...and this study referred to in the original post is very one-sided...
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  • RockinInCanadaRockinInCanada Posts: 2,016
    Yeah...you might consider doing little research on depression before saying things like that. In the end Depression may help you grow, but in most cases you "cannot come out on the other side" without some help. Depression is a chemical imbalance in the brain and it is an illness. If you had any other illness (or even a virus) you would take medication for it.

    Sure, if you're sad for a couple of days, there are some lazy doctors who would give you antidepressants, and that would be inappropriate. If you are sad, low, feel helpless, low energy, no motivation for two weeks or more, odds are you have depression.

    Living with recurrent depression is not always easy, but I am so glad that there is something that can help me deal with it better. If I had not taken medication at the beginning of this whole thing, well, I'd be dead - and I certainly would not be in the right frame of mind to augment my medications with counselling, exercise, and a healthy diet. When I had my first bout of depression, I refused to take meds -- and I ended up getting worse and worse, and it was very hard to live my life. The meds provided a means to actually sleep though the night, and cleared up my muddled thoughts.

    Even if you a rock star/famous musician, you can get depression - and I'd hazard to guess that most of them have taken or are taking antidepressants.

    They are not all bad...and this study referred to in the original post is very one-sided...


    I have been depressed by losing someone close to me for I guarantee you 6 months and I would not resort to anti-depressants (I lost 20 pounds of weight and never slept). However I came out of it a better and more importantly a stronger person. I attriubute that time of my life to making the person I am today...and that is someone that is full confidence.

    I see where your logic lies but I guess maybe a lot of it has to do with the person but I think everyone here is in agreeance on the pills being grossly over-prescribed. Just the debate remains on who actually needs the med's and what criteria should qualify those for them.
  • I have been depressed by losing someone close to me for I guarantee you 6 months and I would not resort to anti-depressants (I lost 20 pounds of weight and never slept). However I came out of it a better and more importantly a stronger person. I attriubute that time of my life to making the person I am today...and that is someone that is full confidence.

    I see where your logic lies but I guess maybe a lot of it has to do with the person but I think everyone here is in agreeance on the pills being grossly over-prescribed. Just the debate remains on who actually needs the med's and what criteria should qualify those for them.


    There is no question it is over prescribed. But the notion of "just get over it" is ridiculous. Perhaps just getting over it is an option in regards to a singular event that causes sorrow or sadness, but most people that are "depressed" are facing more of an ongoing situation (lack of job, being lonely after a break up, etc), and thats where medication can be helpful.

    I was on Prozac and Xanax for about 2 months, and it definately helped me deal with an extremely stressful job, as i wasnt sleeping, and spent all my time away from work dreading going back in. Also, my doctor required i come in for a follow up visit each time, and would not just "refill" the prescription without me coming in.
  • RockinInCanadaRockinInCanada Posts: 2,016
    There is no question it is over prescribed. But the notion of "just get over it" is ridiculous. Perhaps just getting over it is an option in regards to a singular event that causes sorrow or sadness, but most people that are "depressed" are facing more of an ongoing situation (lack of job, being lonely after a break up, etc), and thats where medication can be helpful.

    I was on Prozac and Xanax for about 2 months, and it definately helped me deal with an extremely stressful job, as i wasnt sleeping, and spent all my time away from work dreading going back in. Also, my doctor required i come in for a follow up visit each time, and would not just "refill" the prescription without me coming in.

    When I meant lost someone it was with my first serious g/f...again I came out of it (free of pills) just fine...just lost some weight is all....:)

    It is not a matter of "getting over it" there are other means of helping like trying to talk to friends/family (how quickly people forget about these options), speaking to a therapist, one does not need to medicate themselves to get over everything. We went through a few thousand years of people getting over bad things...pretty sure we are still capable of doing it on our own....

    But hell it is a free world and people can do as they choose....just that I think one should look inside themselves as their first option.


    OR maybe I just punish myself emotionally than the the average person....which would not surprise me in the very least :)
  • vedderfan10vedderfan10 Posts: 2,497
    I see where your logic lies but I guess maybe a lot of it has to do with the person but I think everyone here is in agreeance on the pills being grossly over-prescribed. Just the debate remains on who actually needs the med's and what criteria should qualify those for them.

    Riiighhhttt...Good thing my meds work (and the counselling I have been getting since I started my meds), or I would take that to mean you think people are "weak" if they need medication to live with their depression.

    I can't help thinking that you might not have grieved for 6 months if you had sought help and talked it over with your GP. You may not have even been prescribed meds, but psychotherapy and your grief could have been addressed in half that time. At any rate, grief and depression are not the same thing.

    Yes, I agree that antidepressants are over-prescribed, but it's silly to paint everyone who takes them as feeble minded wimps who can't get over a little set-back. Actually, I find it quite offensive.

    By the way, how many people on here take Advil or Tylenol or Aspirin for a headache. Or do you leave it long enough that it will "take care of itself" and clear up on its own?

    Oh - and when you are in the beginning of a depression - you have NO MOTIVATION to talk to anyone, and you tend to isolate yourself. You don't want to burden your friends and family with your problems, so you HIDE it from them and PRETEND you are OK....It's not that people forget that as an option, they don't want people to know what's going on.
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  • JeanieJeanie Posts: 9,446
    Riiighhhttt...Good thing my meds work (and the counselling I have been getting since I started my meds), or I would take that to mean you think people are "weak" if they need medication to live with their depression.

    I can't help thinking that you might not have grieved for 6 months if you had sought help and talked it over with your GP. You may not have even been prescribed meds, but psychotherapy and your grief could have been addressed in half that time. At any rate, grief and depression are not the same thing.

    Yes, I agree that antidepressants are over-prescribed, but it's silly to paint everyone who takes them as feeble minded wimps who can't get over a little set-back. Actually, I find it quite offensive.

    By the way, how many people on here take Advil or Tylenol or Aspirin for a headache. Or do you leave it long enough that it will "take care of itself" and clear up on its own?

    Oh - and when you are in the beginning of a depression - you have NO MOTIVATION to talk to anyone, and you tend to isolate yourself. You don't want to burden your friends and family with your problems, so you HIDE it from them and PRETEND you are OK....It's not that people forget that as an option, they don't want people to know what's going on.

    Vedderfan I hope you haven't taken my remarks in this thread as an attack on those who do take anti depressants because that was not my intention at all. I was simply saying that for now, and for as long as I can I do not want to take antidepressants. And not because I think it's "weak" to take them or that I think that they're bad and that I should just be able to "get over it" myself. Or that this applies to anyone else. In my circumstances I think I've made the right decision for me and I'm happy that I didn't take them, but I may have to at some point in the future, I'm simply trying to delay getting started on them because the underlying cause of the depression is not going to go away in my case. So the longer I can go learning to cope with that the better for me. In my case. :)

    I'm not going to tell you that I understand your depression or how you feel because I am not you and I have no idea. But I would never belittle you or think anything derogatory about you for having made the choice that you have made. If they are helping you and you feel better for taking them, that's a great thing and I admire you for making the choices that you have made to take care of your health. :)
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  • vedderfan10vedderfan10 Posts: 2,497
    Jeanie wrote:
    Vedderfan I hope you haven't taken my remarks in this thread as an attack on those who do take anti depressants because that was not my intention at all.

    No, not at all. I'm not taking any of these comments personally (because the meds are working ;) )...I just get really irked that some folks feel depression is an easy thing to get over...and as you know (from the rest of your post) it can be quite an ongoing battle.

    This is not a thread about me or my depression, but can really only speak to my experience with it. The issue is that the antidepressants are being over-prescribed by the doctors, the patients are only looking for help (most of them anyway) -- which may not even involve medication.

    I agree that they are not for everyone and I certainly respect anyone's decision not to take them...I wish everyone all the success in the world to recover from depression naturally, without meds! Part of me says "Lucky You!". But meds are not always the answer and they are not the only answer. Therapy in conjunction with meds (which get you in the right frame of mind to put things in perspective so that you're no longer blaming yourself for everything) really works. St. John's Wort works for others.

    So, Jeanie, not to worry. PM me if you want to yap to me specifically about this topic further. If I can help one person because of my experience with this illness, then that makes it just a little bit better for both of us. :)
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  • AhnimusAhnimus Posts: 10,560
    Should only be perscribed for chronic depression.
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  • brain of cbrain of c Posts: 5,213
    is it wrong to be sad?
  • AhnimusAhnimus Posts: 10,560
    Some people have seratonin imbalance that make them chronically depressed, that's what anti-depressants are for. They have some pretty serious side effects and should not be taken lightly.
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