McCain Rejects GI Bill: I Said Support The Troops, Not Coddle Them
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McCain Rejects GI Bill: I Said Support The Troops, Not Coddle Them
WASHINGTON - Senator John McCain announced today why he is not supporting the GI bill originally introduced by Senators Webb (D-Va) and Hagel (R-Neb). “Those benefits are so rich that this bill is nothing more than an end run by the liberals to entice the troops to come home early from Iraq. It is also a distraction to the troops who should be thinking about killing insurgents, rather than killing on a college exam.”
“I agreeicate with that Senator McCann,” President Bush said, “I have been doing my part to un-entice the troops to stay in Iraq by making sure there are no jobs here when they get back, to make sure gas and food prices are too high here and that veterans hospitals are full of rats and mold.” “If we don’t put their lives on the line over here,” said Presidential Press Secretary Dana Perino, “then they won’t be putting their lives on the line over there.”
McCain mentioned that there was no way he could have his hundred year war if troops were “too busy shoving their lazy posteriors in cushy college chairs.” General Petraeus weighed in by saying he agreed with everything that Bush said and requested that the President return those photographs they had been talking about and that the negatives needed to be returned, too.
McCain Rejects GI Bill: I Said Support The Troops, Not Coddle Them
WASHINGTON - Senator John McCain announced today why he is not supporting the GI bill originally introduced by Senators Webb (D-Va) and Hagel (R-Neb). “Those benefits are so rich that this bill is nothing more than an end run by the liberals to entice the troops to come home early from Iraq. It is also a distraction to the troops who should be thinking about killing insurgents, rather than killing on a college exam.”
“I agreeicate with that Senator McCann,” President Bush said, “I have been doing my part to un-entice the troops to stay in Iraq by making sure there are no jobs here when they get back, to make sure gas and food prices are too high here and that veterans hospitals are full of rats and mold.” “If we don’t put their lives on the line over here,” said Presidential Press Secretary Dana Perino, “then they won’t be putting their lives on the line over there.”
McCain mentioned that there was no way he could have his hundred year war if troops were “too busy shoving their lazy posteriors in cushy college chairs.” General Petraeus weighed in by saying he agreed with everything that Bush said and requested that the President return those photographs they had been talking about and that the negatives needed to be returned, too.
standin above the crowd
he had a voice that was strong and loud and
i swallowed his facade cos i'm so
eager to identify with
someone above the crowd
someone who seemed to feel the same
someone prepared to lead the way
he had a voice that was strong and loud and
i swallowed his facade cos i'm so
eager to identify with
someone above the crowd
someone who seemed to feel the same
someone prepared to lead the way
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Makes ya wonder what this war/occupation was really about???
Peace
*MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
.....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti
*The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)
I'm in favor of making it a miserable job, then it won't be so easy to attack people.
...are those who've helped us.
Right 'round the corner could be bigger than ourselves.
What? The people in the military aren't the ones who make or start wars it's the policy makers here in Washington DC. The people in the military ARE the ones who fight these wars.
How many politicians children do you see in the military or in Iraq fighting these wars, not many? Politicians makes these decisions for war and not wise as we can now see in Iraq.
Peace
*MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
.....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti
*The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)
How many wars could a politician start if nobody was in the military?
...are those who've helped us.
Right 'round the corner could be bigger than ourselves.
A politician would never be in power if we had no military. That's why hardly ever go 10 years without a war, this country thrives and is driven by war. bankers and policy maker rake in huge somes of money not GI Joe & Josie in the military.
Politicians manipulate situations to get us to war plain and simple.
Checkout this book....
I'd rather say Peace than War
*MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
.....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti
*The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)
I'm not saying I agree with McCain but at least use a valid argument instead of this crap.
This has nothing to do with my 2 comments.
The fact is, it would be much easier to wage wars if the military enticements were so great that people were tripping over themselves to sign up. Make it a job nobody wants, and I'll bet we'd be a lot more peaceful.
...are those who've helped us.
Right 'round the corner could be bigger than ourselves.
One has to wonder what the make up of the military is? I'm sure you won't see too many wealthy men and women signing up to get into the military. It's usually those from a poor environment, meager standards looking for a way to improve themselves. Many of the enticements that are offered upon recruitment aren't always followed through once these men and women have signed up.
It's a job maintained by the poor and a job the wealthy certainly don't want.
Peace
*MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
.....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti
*The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)
Right, and if the enticements are made more attractive, you'll have more of the wealthy signing up. Thus, a bigger army and easier to make war.
...are those who've helped us.
Right 'round the corner could be bigger than ourselves.
LOL. That was pretty funny !
no one, it's clearly written for parody.
Here ya go
http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/la-oe-humes30-2008may30,0,4850795.story
McCain is a colossal dickhead. If we elect him we are as fucking stupid as the world thinks we are.
I rest my case
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....And what wealthy person do you know or is out there that wants go into the military knowing the possibilty that may go off to Iraq.
Not any if any at all, not with what enticements the military will offer. Not too many enticements out there for the wealthy that they might need when they have the main one wealth!
Peace
*MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
.....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti
*The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)
wow.
Everybody (or at least a whole bunch of them) has their price. It's a hypothetical example, anyway. I'll bet if they paid soldiers $500K per year, you'd see a lot of well-to-do people signing up. Not all of them, but then again not all poor people enlist now either.
My point is this: I wish they would lower the enticements to the lowest they can be...heck, make it an all volunteer, no pay military for all I care. There wouldn't be much of a military and then we'd have trouble attacking people.
...are those who've helped us.
Right 'round the corner could be bigger than ourselves.
I get it - calling people stupid automatically makes you intelligent, right?
...are those who've helped us.
Right 'round the corner could be bigger than ourselves.
Well you may already have your wish in Blackwater USA. More and more of the military is being privatized with many of the profits being gained from government contracts. Up to 750M much of it overcharged to the US Government. Many US citizens are discuss-ted with Blackwater USA and their over expenditures so I would find it very difficult to sustain any army/military paying a soldier 500K per year.
There in turn comes the realization of another major problem with no military you and I would not be able to sit back type on computers in our homes. We would be in bunkers worried about when WE would be attacked again and again.
I'll say it again the military doesn't attack any country it's those in charge *The Decider* Commander and Chief also Congress who makes those decision. The military, the soldiers are ONLY the ones who act and take those orders and missions.
I should know I was one of them many years ago.
Peace
*MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
.....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti
*The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)
If "The Decider" had no military to follow his orders, he couldn't attack. I'm in favor of encouraging people to avoid joining the military by lowering the enticements offered.
...are those who've helped us.
Right 'round the corner could be bigger than ourselves.
From the start I've understood and can see you're against war however it's the method to attain a peaceful resolution that I disagree with.
With enticements or not this militaristic warmongering society of a country we live in WILL ALWAYS have a military. It's never EVER going away, what's needed is methods to curtail our leaders into NOT making foolish decisions like getting us into an unnecessary war in Iraq.
One of the set of people who are extremely happy about these wars are the Banksters of The Federal Reserve: The Great Oil Swindle, How Much the Feds Really Know.
Peace
*MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
.....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti
*The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)
I apologize If I said you were stupid. I don't know you at all.
many things you post however are not supported in any way by rational thought or historical example.
I mean if you say that in some dream world having no army available would be nifty I agree, in theory, I guess, but come on...
I am against the Iraq occupation and even I see the importance of a strong military.
With rational leadership, a strong military stops wars.
All I was saying was that I feel it would be more difficult to wage war with a smaller or non-existent military. Therefore, I'm not really in favor of doing things that make joining a military more attractive.
...are those who've helped us.
Right 'round the corner could be bigger than ourselves.
what about the ppl already in it?
he had a voice that was strong and loud and
i swallowed his facade cos i'm so
eager to identify with
someone above the crowd
someone who seemed to feel the same
someone prepared to lead the way
We should honor what was promised to them, but not make it a better deal.
...are those who've helped us.
Right 'round the corner could be bigger than ourselves.
But at the same time if you don't offer any benefits to being in the military you can only attract the most desperate people, either those who sign up because they want to blow stuff up or people who can’t find any other jobs (high school dropouts, ex-cons etc.). These types of people are going to be even less likely to think for themselves than your average recruit. At least if you offer money for college you can increase your odds of recruiting more intelligent people.
Plus if you make the benefits too crappy and you fill your army with people who can’t find any other job (whether due to lack of skills or intelligence or whatever), you have to promote somebody, and eventually you are kind of forced into given people who might not be cut out for the job in command of people, and in turn making decisions about people’s lives.