Palin may have her own "pastor problem"

inmytreeinmytree Posts: 4,741
edited September 2008 in A Moving Train
make sure you check out the video...interesting stuff...

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/09/02/palins-church-may-have-sh_n_123205.html
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  • inmytreeinmytree Posts: 4,741
    more:

    http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/the_daily_dish/2008/09/anti-jewish-ter.html

    Anti-Jewish Terror is "God's Judgment"

    02 Sep 2008 11:14 pm

    Yes, Sarah Palin sat in a church where this message was given. Two weeks ago. The karma in all this is just amazing:

    Brickner also described terrorist attacks on Israelis as God's "judgment of unbelief" of Jews who haven't embraced Christianity.

    "Judgment is very real and we see it played out on the pages of the newspapers and on the television. It's very real. When [Brickner's son] was in Jerusalem he was there to witness some of that judgment, some of that conflict, when a Palestinian from East Jerusalem took a bulldozer and went plowing through a score of cars, killing numbers of people. Judgment — you can't miss it."

    Palin was in church that day, Kroon said, though he cautioned against attributing Brickner’s views to her.

    How does Hannity deal with this? After what he said about Jeremiah Wright?
  • jeffbrjeffbr Seattle Posts: 7,177
    inmytree wrote:
    more:

    http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/the_daily_dish/2008/09/anti-jewish-ter.html

    Anti-Jewish Terror is "God's Judgment"

    02 Sep 2008 11:14 pm

    Yes, Sarah Palin sat in a church where this message was given. Two weeks ago. The karma in all this is just amazing:

    Brickner also described terrorist attacks on Israelis as God's "judgment of unbelief" of Jews who haven't embraced Christianity.

    "Judgment is very real and we see it played out on the pages of the newspapers and on the television. It's very real. When [Brickner's son] was in Jerusalem he was there to witness some of that judgment, some of that conflict, when a Palestinian from East Jerusalem took a bulldozer and went plowing through a score of cars, killing numbers of people. Judgment — you can't miss it."

    Palin was in church that day, Kroon said, though he cautioned against attributing Brickner’s views to her.

    How does Hannity deal with this? After what he said about Jeremiah Wright?

    What a bunch of sick fuckers. I can't wait to see if she backs off. It took Obama a little while to distance himself from Wright, but he finally became rational. I don't hold out the same hope for Palin because she sounds much more hardcore herself.
    "I'll use the magic word - let's just shut the fuck up, please." EV, 04/13/08
  • digsterdigster Posts: 1,293
    I didn't think it was fair for Obama to be tied to every single thing that Wright said in his sermons; free country, rah rah rah and all that. I do not think it would be fair for Palin to be criticized as being tied to every single thing this pastor says either.

    But I do have to say there is a nice bit of karmic justice here, considering the non-stop hammering the Hannitys of the world have given Obama due to Wright.
  • mammasanmammasan Posts: 5,656
    The Hannities will say nothing about this. They will ignore it or simply say that this is a smear campaign by the liberal media.
    "When one gets in bed with government, one must expect the diseases it spreads." - Ron Paul
  • digsterdigster Posts: 1,293
    It's eerie how similar the stories are...even that the kids were baptized at the Church.

    I guess we're about to see if there's that big bad liberal media the Right keeps harping on about.
  • I will never understand this pastor stuff... Wright or this guy (Ill go on the record as saying if anyone actually read the transcript of what Rev Wright actually said in the famous youtube clip, that 75% of the non opinioned facts were true if not higher) ...
    What does it matter? my pastor doesnt speak for me!

    My pastor raped little boys does that mean that Im ok with boy raping. He was great up until I found out he raped boys. He married me, he would come over for dinner and I would quote some of his sayings...


    Someone please explain.
  • mammasanmammasan Posts: 5,656
    I will never understand this pastor stuff... Wright or this guy (Ill go on the record as saying if anyone actually read the transcript of what Rev Wright actually said in the famous youtube clip, that 75% of the non opinioned facts were true if not higher) ...
    What does it matter? my pastor doesnt speak for me!

    My pastor raped little boys does that mean that Im ok with boy raping. He was great up until I found out he raped boys. He married me, he would come over for dinner and I would quote some of his sayings...


    Someone please explain.

    You are right it shouldn't matter but the Republican party and it's supporters made an issue of this. Now let's see if the same standard applies to their new cover girl.
    "When one gets in bed with government, one must expect the diseases it spreads." - Ron Paul
  • digsterdigster Posts: 1,293
    I will never understand this pastor stuff... Wright or this guy (Ill go on the record as saying if anyone actually read the transcript of what Rev Wright actually said in the famous youtube clip, that 75% of the non opinioned facts were true if not higher) ...
    What does it matter? my pastor doesnt speak for me!

    My pastor raped little boys does that mean that Im ok with boy raping. He was great up until I found out he raped boys. He married me, he would come over for dinner and I would quote some of his sayings...


    Someone please explain.

    I don't think it does. I was addressing the what I will assume will be hypocritical right-wingers who harshly criticized Obama's relationship with Wright but will support a nominee who's pastor said that if you don't vote for President Bush, you're going to Hell and that Palestinian suicide bombers are judgment from God.

    I don't think it would be fair to assume those are her personal beliefs, but I sincerely doubt that all the grenades lobbed at Obama's camp regarding the Wright scandal are going to be thrown here.
  • jeffbrjeffbr Seattle Posts: 7,177
    I will never understand this pastor stuff... Wright or this guy (Ill go on the record as saying if anyone actually read the transcript of what Rev Wright actually said in the famous youtube clip, that 75% of the non opinioned facts were true if not higher) ...
    What does it matter? my pastor doesnt speak for me!

    My pastor raped little boys does that mean that Im ok with boy raping. He was great up until I found out he raped boys. He married me, he would come over for dinner and I would quote some of his sayings...


    Someone please explain.

    If you knew your pastor raped little boys and you continued to support that pastor through tithing, or attendance, then yes, it would appear that you would be OK with raping little boys. If you knew that your pastor raped little boys and you took your own kids to that church, then yes, it would appear that you would be OK with having your own children abused.

    Since it sounds like you had no idea, you couldn't be held responsible. If Obama and/or Palin go to church and not listen to a thing that their pastors said, then perhaps they could be excused. But to go, listen, say their Amens, drop cash on the plate, get married, have the kids baptised, use the pastor for personal guidance, etc... then it is a relationship that shouldn't be ignored.
    "I'll use the magic word - let's just shut the fuck up, please." EV, 04/13/08
  • digsterdigster Posts: 1,293
    If this has no mainstream coverage, great. I'm all for it. But I'm never going to listen to any lecture me about "the liberal mainstream media" ever again.
  • RiderRider Posts: 129
    This crap should be on the front page, but it wont be. The media is controlled by the right wing's corporations.
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  • Rider wrote:
    This crap should be on the front page, but it wont be. The media is controlled by the right wing's corporations.



    I don't know. Shit man, there's so much stuff coming in about Palin that could/needs to be headlined, that maybe the news is just having a hard time picking what they're going to run.
  • RiderRider Posts: 129
    I haven't heard a peep yet, just MSM types singing the praises of a "new star".
    We all walk the Long Road...

    Charlotte & Raleigh Lollapalooza 1992, Charlotte Memorial Stadium 1996, Tibet Freedom Concert 1998, Raleigh & Greenville 1998, Greensboro 2000, Raleigh & Camden 2003, Asheville 2004, Camden 2006, DC 2008, Atlanta 2012  Charlottesville 2013, Charlotte 2013
     Greenville, (XRaleighX) and Hampton 2016, London Hyde Park, Quebec City and Ottawa 2022, St Paul X2 2023, Raleigh 2025 X2, Florida (hopefully)...
  • digsterdigster Posts: 1,293
    Where's that big bad liberal media?
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