Alcohol a Bigger Threat to U.S. Youth Than Drugs

Heatherj43

It has long been common knowledge that alcohol is the grandaddy of all drugs. And its not any news that it causes more problems within society that any other drug...and it is a drug, by the way!
If you take the liquid part out of the chemical makeup, it is ether.
As a note, prohibition did not start because of the temperance movement. What happened is that there was a war going on and they needed grain for fuel for the war, so they TEMPORARILY banned alcohol for consumption as to save the grain. But even after the war ended, they just stayed with the prohibition because of the temperance movement.
I personally disagree with the idea that prohibition did not work. It was no different that any illegal drug now, and we don't cave into making those drugs legal because they are being sold, used, manufactured, and crime revolves them. There is no difference. Its the same thing.
Prohibition worked as well as keeping pot illegal, or any other drug for that matter.

Heatherj43

inmytree wrote:

sure, let's ban alcohol...why not...it's harmful, just like other drugs...

I would think someone who strongly supports keeping drugs illegal would support such a ban...right...?

Exactly!!! If you can think that other drugs need to stay illegal, then how in the hell can one say alcohol shlould be legal. There is no difference!!!
Throw in tobacco and its all fucked up.

soulsinging

hippiemom wrote:

I don't know about everyone else, but when I was in school I started getting high because it was so much EASIER to get than alcohol. None of my classmates were selling booze out of their lockers, but dozens of them were selling drugs. Alcohol was a pain in the ass, you had to go to a store, get a fake ID or talk somebody's older brother into buying it for you, such a nuisance. Drugs, all you had to do was show up at school.

i had the same experience. so easy to get weed in high school, but alcohol was VERY ahrd to come by.

Will1659

Heatherj43 wrote:

If you take the liquid part out of the chemical makeup, it is ether.

Not correct. Ethanol is a liquid itself at room temperature, so "taking out the liquid part" doesn't really make sense, and also ethanol is totally different from any of the ethers. However you're completely right about ethanol being a drug though.

1970RR

Heatherj43 wrote:

It has long been common knowledge that alcohol is the grandaddy of all drugs. And its not any news that it causes more problems within society that any other drug...and it is a drug, by the way!
If you take the liquid part out of the chemical makeup, it is ether.
As a note, prohibition did not start because of the temperance movement. What happened is that there was a war going on and they needed grain for fuel for the war, so they TEMPORARILY banned alcohol for consumption as to save the grain. But even after the war ended, they just stayed with the prohibition because of the temperance movement.
I personally disagree with the idea that prohibition did not work. It was no different that any illegal drug now, and we don't cave into making those drugs legal because they are being sold, used, manufactured, and crime revolves them. There is no difference. Its the same thing.
Prohibition worked as well as keeping pot illegal, or any other drug for that matter.

Prohibition was a failed policy then and a failed policy now. After 30+ years and untold billions of dollars, nothing has changed. Drugs are as easily available now as ever, cost is relatively the same and we have over 1 million people locked away.
Prohibition does nothing but create a black-market and all the issues that come with it.
If this country were serious about reducing illegal drug use, we would legalize all drugs and use the massive amount of money currently used for interdiction for treatment & education.

Heatherj43

Will1659 wrote:

Not correct. Ethanol is a liquid itself at room temperature, so "taking out the liquid part" doesn't really make sense, and also ethanol is totally different from any of the ethers. However you're completely right about ethanol being a drug though.

I tried to search..and I am not a chemist, so I am really unsure what this link even says....I do know that when I was getting my substance abuse license, my text books showed the chemical makeup of both and the only difference was the amount of water. That is why alcohol gives similar effects to ether. We just don't take it in to our bodies the same way and in its pure form.

http://designer-drugs.com/pte/12.162.180.114/dcd/chemistry/ethyl.ether.html

Heatherj43

1970RR wrote:

Prohibition was a failed policy then and a failed policy now. After 30+ years and untold billions of dollars, nothing has changed. Drugs are as easily available now as ever, cost is relatively the same and we have over 1 million people locked away.
Prohibition does nothing but create a black-market and all the issues that come with it.
If this country were serious about reducing illegal drug use, we would legalize all drugs and use the massive amount of money currently used for interdiction for treatment & education.

Kind of my point. The biggest argument, and only argument that prohibition did not work is that all it did was create a black market and crime. How is that so many people are so quick to say prohibtion did not work, but cannot see the exact thing happening with the illicit drugs we have now?
Absolutely no difference. So, I say, that if we should not go back to prohibition....for it didn't work as so many say, why the double standard. If its okay to keep today's illicit drugs illegal, and some would say it works...then so did prohibition. What is the difference? Is it they just caved in to the public back then and are refusing to now? if so, why? There is no difference. It seems hypocritical and bad policy.

Alcohol is the grandaddy of them all and create many more problems than most of the illicit drugs of today.
Its a crock. Prohibition did work back then, had they stuck by it like they now are with illicit drugs. I don't see any difference.
When I say it worked..it worked by the government's standards of today that is prohbiting illicit drugs now....the gov thinks this works today...so back then was no different and by those standards did work!