Is this guy on the mark?.............

even flow?even flow? Posts: 8,066
edited July 2007 in A Moving Train
http://www.torontosun.com/News/Columnists/Coren_Michael/2007/07/28/4374738.html

End the blather

By MICHAEL COREN

Another murder in a Canadian black community, this time the victim being 11-years old. And it took only moments for white liberal politicians to blame law-abiding handgun owners and, yes, the United States of America.

Handguns have to be banned, they cried, and American gun laws are too soft. This has to be a first. Canadian leftists blaming a murder in Toronto on President George W. Bush. Orders of Canada and CBC T-shirts all round.

Such drivel does not, however, explain how Norway, with one of the highest rates of gun ownership in the world, manages to have one of the lowest crime rates.

Or how Israel, a society where guns are extraordinarily common, has so few criminal shootings.

Or how Britain with some of the most stringent gun control laws in the world has a violent crime rate that is virtually out of control.

It's too late to play silly games any more. If handguns are the cause of all this we have to ask why there are so few shootings in, for example, the Dutch, Ukrainian, Irish, Portuguese, Korean, Hindu or African communities. Why, in fact, there are so few shootings in any community outside of the West Indian and specifically Jamaican.

Oh Lord, the man must be mad. Silence him, stop him, call in a Human Rights Commission before it's too late!

Yet there is nothing racist about seeking answers that might save the lives of young black men and much that is racist about refusing to ask basic questions for fear that politically correct credentials be damaged.

If our leaders were braver they might admit that matriarchy is a fundamental theme of Jamaican society and the levels of fatherless families in the country's urban centres are staggering. This culture has been transferred to Canada. Just as it has to other Jamaican diaspora communities, which experience similar rates of violent crime.

It might be comforting to see every young single mom as a saint who works three jobs and is devoted to her children, but positive caricatures are just as unhelpful as are negative ones.

There are such mothers of course, but also young women who party late and work little. Who find themselves pregnant as teenagers and mothers of several children, perhaps from different fathers, by the time they are adults.

Such problems occur to various extents in all communities, but when the only male role model is the gangster on the street corner with the loud car, loud clothes and loud gun, the chances of leading a law-abiding life are minimal.

Made even harder by a dysfunctional obsession with disrespect.

A gesture or a harmless comment can indicate lack of respect and the need to shoot. Just last week in London, England, three young black men shot a doorman point blank in the face three times because he politely asked them not to smoke. Hard to believe that this was the result of oppression, racism and lack of government programs. Especially as the victim was himself black.

Poverty? Spare me. It is deeply insulting to assume that the poor are criminals.

Also ridiculous to assume that there is genuine, crippling poverty in a country with free education, health care and subsidized housing.

If we care we will halt the platitudes and try to help. No more patronizing blather, no more false scapegoats. If we care we will risk being called names. If we care.
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  • TruthmongerTruthmonger Posts: 559
    Ya, its odd, in Canada we don't ever want to pick on a particular ethnic group. Its considered intolerant. But something is definitely going on in the black community, at least in Toronto. Lets see, Toronto's black community accounts for roughly 10% of the total pop., meaning proportionately that they should be responsible for 6 or 7 murders a year since T.O. avg's about 65-70 a year. But you don't need to read crime statistics to see this isn't the case. You can do it by merely watching the news and coming to your own conclusions.....

    As for Coren's assertion that we should do it b/c we care, well, I'd like to see how this assertion palys out on Eglinton W. or up in Jane/Finch.
  • CorporateWhoreCorporateWhore Posts: 1,890
    A pro-gun and realist perspective on minorities. Wow, excellent post.
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  • Staceb10Staceb10 Posts: 675
    I'd say he's close to the mark at least. Except doesn't he know that everything wrong in the world right now can be blame on GW? ;)
  • Hey it's hip to be a badass "gangsta" and carry a piece and do hard time right?

    Maybe if they stopped promoting that persona in videos and music less kids would get involved in drugs, carry guns, and shoot it up.

    It's definitely a thought.
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  • given2fallgiven2fall Posts: 98
    I really do think we'd be better off with less guns in world. At the very least we'd break even. I think there are so many things worth fighting for, a gun is not one of those things. I don't care if you just use it for target practice at the firing range - you can live without it. It's a very small sacrifice.
    However, I do agree that guns are often used as a scapegoat. We do need to take a closer look at the issues, even at the risk of political incorrectness. Guns are a part of the problem, but not the whole problem.

    "It was Luke's fault" (Ed after stumbling on Soon Forget at Kitchener '05)
  • NMyTreeNMyTree Posts: 2,374
    I think the article is very accurate. It really cuts to the chase and shoves aside all the bullshit.
  • CorporateWhoreCorporateWhore Posts: 1,890
    given2fall wrote:
    I really do think we'd be better off with less guns in world.

    But the Netherlands has one of the highest rates of gun ownership and also one of the lowest crime rates. They prove that there can be more guns and less violence.
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  • given2fallgiven2fall Posts: 98
    But the Netherlands has one of the highest rates of gun ownership and also one of the lowest crime rates. They prove that there can be more guns and less violence.
    There can be, I don't doubt it, but I still think we can do without 'em.

    "It was Luke's fault" (Ed after stumbling on Soon Forget at Kitchener '05)
  • The problem with guns is that you get less chance for errors if a mistake is made so people harp on that as their sole justification. They have a very valid point, but only to a certain degree.

    Ultimately I believe this argument, and justification, falls short of the big picture.

    I can kill someone with a sharpened pencil, or a nice big rock, or my bare hands.

    It's not the gun so much as it is the fingers connected to the brain holding it that is the problem.
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

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