Fred
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I thought Fred's speech was damn good.
I wonder what people 'round these here parts thought?
I wonder what people 'round these here parts thought?
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i disagreed with 99% of it...
the guy is a freakin actor and i am suppsoed to take him seriously? since when did he become a conservative hero?
does the RNC have anything but old white guys to speak? i mean seriously, outside of the terrible VP choice it is nothing but old white guys representing the party at this convention. no thanks.
http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/09/02/thompson.transcript/index.html
Here you go. I thought it was an excellent speech and if Thompson actually spoke like that during the primaries this might have been his convention.
- 8/28/98
- 9/2/00
- 4/28/03, 5/3/03, 7/3/03, 7/5/03, 7/6/03, 7/9/03, 7/11/03, 7/12/03, 7/14/03
- 9/28/04, 9/29/04, 10/1/04, 10/2/04
- 9/11/05, 9/12/05, 9/13/05, 9/30/05, 10/1/05, 10/3/05
- 5/12/06, 5/13/06, 5/27/06, 5/28/06, 5/30/06, 6/1/06, 6/3/06, 6/23/06, 7/22/06, 7/23/06, 12/2/06, 12/9/06
- 8/2/07, 8/5/07
- 6/19/08, 6/20/08, 6/22/08, 6/24/08, 6/25/08, 6/27/08, 6/28/08, 6/30/08, 7/1/08
- 8/23/09, 8/24/09, 9/21/09, 9/22/09, 10/27/09, 10/28/09, 10/30/09, 10/31/09
- 5/15/10, 5/17/10, 5/18/10, 5/20/10, 5/21/10, 10/23/10, 10/24/10
- 9/11/11, 9/12/11
- 10/18/13, 10/21/13, 10/22/13, 11/30/13, 12/4/13
take a good look
this could be the day
hold my hand
lie beside me
i just need to say
That's what I thought.
It funny, it seems some on this board can only have conversation around the candidates they like...there is no all good or all bad, but many see it that way.
is this what americans want to hear? is this what they vote for.... guys who did well in questionable wars?
far out.
I thought maybe Thompson could have made a point more about McCain's clashes with W over the years because of how the Left is trying to portray him as a rank and file Republican. But I guess in time when the base is finally unified, the call was made from above not to go that route.
- 8/28/98
- 9/2/00
- 4/28/03, 5/3/03, 7/3/03, 7/5/03, 7/6/03, 7/9/03, 7/11/03, 7/12/03, 7/14/03
- 9/28/04, 9/29/04, 10/1/04, 10/2/04
- 9/11/05, 9/12/05, 9/13/05, 9/30/05, 10/1/05, 10/3/05
- 5/12/06, 5/13/06, 5/27/06, 5/28/06, 5/30/06, 6/1/06, 6/3/06, 6/23/06, 7/22/06, 7/23/06, 12/2/06, 12/9/06
- 8/2/07, 8/5/07
- 6/19/08, 6/20/08, 6/22/08, 6/24/08, 6/25/08, 6/27/08, 6/28/08, 6/30/08, 7/1/08
- 8/23/09, 8/24/09, 9/21/09, 9/22/09, 10/27/09, 10/28/09, 10/30/09, 10/31/09
- 5/15/10, 5/17/10, 5/18/10, 5/20/10, 5/21/10, 10/23/10, 10/24/10
- 9/11/11, 9/12/11
- 10/18/13, 10/21/13, 10/22/13, 11/30/13, 12/4/13
is that true? i just read it in that guys speech.. bet he's glad he wasnt in the Village People... T. M. C. A. doesn't have the same ring to it.
Yes, and Palin has loads of experience.
Soooo, there aren't any Republicans in Congress? Maybe they should introduce more laws to save women from being removed from life support? :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
I fell asleep a few minutes into the speech....;)
I can't figure the guy out... He had so much hype trying to get him to run, so he goes campaigning and basically falls asleep on the stump. I guess people were looking at him to speak like this as a candidate, but he must not have really had his heart in it.
was like a picture
of a sunny day
“We can complain because rose bushes have thorns, or rejoice because thorn bushes have roses.”
― Abraham Lincoln
Obama gives equally great speeches.
Both deliver their well-crafted speeches with monumental pant-load of shit.
Will Pullman gave quite an inspirational speech in the movie Independence Day.
Wonder if he's available for a four to eight year term?
For Details, see the last eight years.
also, did he fart about 5 minutes into this speech???
He coughed and it sounded like he farted.... did anyone else notice this???
peace
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.....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti
*The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_DL7zP7Da1o
Together we will float like angels.........
In the moment that you left the room, the album started skipping, goodbye to beauty shared with the ones that you love.........
It's time to move past racism. I'm talking to you.
...are those who've helped us.
Right 'round the corner could be bigger than ourselves.
Yep, but Lieberman hi that subject, not as effective as necessary though, but it was the safe way to go about it.
He must have had too many bran muffins for dinner. Good thing those Depends are very absorbent. His young wife must hate having to change their baby's diapers and Fred's on a constant basis.
I can only imagine how many seconds you lasted into Michelle Obama or Hillary Clinton's speeches then.
Shouldn't speeches with actually content be better than fluff pieces?
Like they said last night, I don;t think Obama fans want to start quesitoning people's experience.
Why not? Has McCain's experiences led him to make sound judgements? Maverick my ass. The man cant shit without asking advice from his aides.
Because Obama has very little experience himself.
I personally like the lack of this "experience"...hence I don;t mind Obama NOR Palin. BUt I do give Palin some credit for being a Governer...of any state for any time period. I've always preferred governer candidates to Senators.
I don't understand this reasoning at all from Republican circles; "hey, our candidate may be shitty, but at least she's not as shitty as yours!" I mean, honestly, what kind of defense is that?
And if they want to bring up experience, let em. Obama is not running on an extensive Washington record; McCain is. Obama is not the one saying that McCain is unfit to lead due to a lack of experience; McCain is. Obama is not the one that, despite a focus on the necessity of extensive experience, picked someone with little government experience and absolutely no foreign policy experience; McCain is. Obama is not the one that deflated his experience argument through his VP choice, thus far the only successful argument against his opponent. McCain is.
I've been asking those questions for days on this board, and no McCain supporters can seem to answer them. When I question Palin's lack of experience, don't throw Obama back as an answer. What does that say about McCain's message of the necessity of experience when he picks a VP candidate with next to none?
I didn't say that at all, I don't think either is "shity".
We need to try and read posts. Just because someone says something good about Fred's speech, doesn't mean they all of a sudden agree 100% with the republican party...same for a speech by a Dem.
I think Palin does have a lack of WASHINGTION experience (as does Obama) and I LIKE that about BOTH of them. I think Palin's 18-20 months of being a governer makes her experience BETTER than Obama's senate experience. Governer's can't vote present...and governer's don't have 40+ other senators to sit along side of 95% of the time. They are front and center making the final call. I respect that.
I agree entirely with your second point...the first post in this thread is me complimenting Thompson on his speech. I didn't agree with most of what he said, but it was still a solid speech. And I said 'Republican circles' have been using that argument; I didn't mean to limit it to what you individually said. Your post inspired my thought about that, and it is true that I've been hearing that from alot of Republicans, particularly on television (maybe not with the wording I used).
My final question still stands, and I still want a McCain supporter to answer it for me, because out of all the pregnancy, troopergate crap that's flying around that is really not pertinent, this is a criticism that has merit; McCain has called Obama unfit to lead because he has little experience on how to "get things done" in Washington, because of a lack of Washington experience. And now he has chosen as his second-in-command, someone's who's primary job it is to be president at a moment's notice, someone with absolutely no experience on how to get things done in Washington. Great governor or not, she has absolutely no Washington experience. I'm not talking about Palin; what does that say about McCain and his message? If he doesn't think Obama has enough Washington experience to lead, how could he think someone with no Washington experience can? Isn't that pretty shitty judgment?
Obama had good judgment with his VP pick due to two reasons:
1. He picked someone that everyone agrees COULD be president, if need be.
2. He picked someone that addresses his weaknesses without (irrevocably) diluting his strengths.
With his VP pick, McCain,
1. Picked someone that may not be able to be President.
2. Picked someone that may help his strength as a 'maverick' but jettisons his most powerful argument against Obama.
I just want someone to address this issue without using Obama's own lack of experience as an answer, cause that's not an answer. It's sidestepping the question. Since I know you're a McCain supporter, I figured I'd address it to you.
....... and the crowd goes silent ....
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