The Declining Dollar Value and recession

puremagicpuremagic Posts: 1,907
edited November 2007 in A Moving Train
We're 8 trillion dollars in debt, what does this mean for our economy? Iran is not the only country considering this action, even Japan and China are considering such. As the Saudis begin to sway because of the decline of the dollar, how bad of a recession could we be facing?

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21870271/

Iran president calls U.S. dollar 'worthless'


OPEC members consider converting cash reserves into non-dollar currency...“They get our oil and give us a worthless piece of paper,” Ahmadinejad told reporters after the close of the summit in the Saudi capital of Riyadh. He blamed U.S. President George W. Bush’s policies for the decline of the dollar and its negative effect on other countries. ...


updated 6:20 p.m. ET Nov. 18, 2007

RIYADH, Saudi Arabia - Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad said Sunday that OPEC’s members have expressed interest in converting their cash reserves into a currency other than the depreciating U.S. dollar, which he called a “worthless piece of paper.”

His comments at the end of a rare summit of OPEC heads of state exposed fissures within the 13-member cartel — especially after U.S. ally Saudi Arabia was reluctant to mention concerns about the falling dollar in the summit’s final declaration.

The hardline Iranian leader’s comments also highlighted the growing challenge that Saudi Arabia, the world’s largest oil producer, faces from Iran and its ally Venezuela within the Organization of Petroleum Exporting Countries.

Oil is priced in U.S. dollars on the world market, and the currency’s depreciation has concerned oil producers because it has contributed to rising crude prices and has eroded the value of their dollar reserves.

“All participating leaders showed an interest in changing their hard currency reserves to a credible hard currency,” Ahmadinejad said. “Some said producing countries should designate a single hard currency aside from the U.S. dollar ... to form the basis of our oil trade.”

Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez echoed this sentiment Sunday on the sidelines of the summit, saying “the empire of the dollar has to end.”

“Don’t you see how the dollar has been in free-fall without a parachute?” Chavez said, calling the euro a better option.

Saudi Arabia’s King Abdullah had tried to direct the focus of the summit toward studying the effect of the oil industry on the environment, but he continuously faced challenges from Ahmadinejad and Chavez.

Iran and Venezuela have proposed trading oil in a basket of currencies to replace the historic link to the dollar, but they had not been able to generate support from enough fellow OPEC members — many of whom, including Saudi Arabia, are staunch U.S. allies.

Both Iran and Venezuela have antagonistic relationships with the U.S., suggesting their proposals may have a political motivation as well. While Tehran has been in a standoff with Washington over its nuclear program, left-wing Chavez is a bitter antagonist of Bush. U.S. sanctions on Iran also have made it increasingly difficult for the country to do business in dollars.
SIN EATERS--We take the moral excrement we find in this equation and we bury it down deep inside of us so that the rest of our case can stay pure. That is the job. We are morally indefensible and absolutely necessary.
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  • mammasanmammasan Posts: 5,656
    I think Iran and Venezuela's actions are based more on politics than economics. I do believe though that if our dollar continues to depreciate other OPEC members may consider switching the petro currency to the Euro. I find it a bit ironic though that our invasion of Iraq was particialy motivated because of petro currency, at least that is my belief, that the down fall of the dollar was our own doing.
    "When one gets in bed with government, one must expect the diseases it spreads." - Ron Paul
  • know1know1 Posts: 6,794
    Now would be the exact time they should take their strong currency and buy U.S. dollars at a value.
    The only people we should try to get even with...
    ...are those who've helped us.

    Right 'round the corner could be bigger than ourselves.
  • jlew24asujlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    mammasan wrote:
    I think Iran and Venezuela's actions are based more on politics than economics. I do believe though that if our dollar continues to depreciate other OPEC members may consider switching the petro currency to the Euro. I find it a bit ironic though that our invasion of Iraq was particialy motivated because of petro currency, at least that is my belief, that the down fall of the dollar was our own doing.

    thats exactly right.


    http://money.cnn.com/2007/11/18/news/international/opec_oil.ap/index.htm?postversion=2007111908

    Saudi Arabia's King Abdullah had tried to direct the focus of the summit toward studying the effect of the oil industry on the environment, but he continuously faced challenges from Ahmadinejad and Chavez.

    Iran and Venezuela have proposed trading oil in a basket of currencies to replace the historic link to the dollar, but they had not been able to generate support from enough fellow OPEC members - many of whom, including Saudi Arabia, are staunch U.S. allies.

    Both Iran and Venezuela have antagonistic relationships with the U.S., suggesting their proposals may have a political motivation as well. While Tehran has been in a standoff with Washington over its nuclear program, left-wing Chavez is a bitter antagonist of Bush. U.S. sanctions on Iran also have made it increasingly difficult for the country to do business in dollars.


    .....

    as for recession, we'll see how the upcoming holiday season is. that will be a huge indicator.
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