Court bans death penalty for child rape

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Court bans death penalty for child rape

By MARK SHERMAN, Associated Press Writer Wed Jun 25, 7:40 PM ET

WASHINGTON - The Supreme Court declared Wednesday that executions are too severe a punishment for raping children, despite the "years of long anguish" for victims, in a ruling that restricts the death penalty to murder and crimes against the state.

The court's 5-4 decision struck down a Louisiana law that allows capital punishment for people convicted of raping children under 12. It spares the only people in the U.S. under sentence of death for that crime — two Louisiana men convicted of raping girls 5 and 8.

The ruling also invalidates laws on the books in five other states that allowed executions for child rape that does not result in the death of the victim.

However devastating the crime to children, Justice Anthony Kennedy wrote in his majority opinion, "the death penalty is not a proportional punishment for the rape of a child." His four liberal colleagues joined him, while the four more conservative justices dissented.

There has not been an execution in the United States for a crime that did not also involve the death of the victim in 44 years, a factor that weighed in Kennedy's decision.

Rape and other crimes "may be as devastating in their harm, as here, but 'in terms of moral depravity and of the injury to the person and to the public,' they cannot be compared to murder in their 'severity and irrevocability,'" Kennedy said, quoting from earlier decisions.

The victim in the case decided Wednesday was an 8-year-old girl raped by her stepfather at their home in Harvey, La., outside New Orleans.

Angry Louisianans who backed the law said the court was out of touch.

"The opinion reads more like an out-of-control legislative debate than a constitutional analysis," said Louisiana Gov. Bobby Jindal, a Republican. "One thing is clear: The five members of the court who issued the opinion do not share the same 'standards of decency' as the people of Louisiana."

The decision resonated in the presidential campaign, too, where Democrat Barack Obama objected to it. Obama said there should be no blanket prohibition of the death penalty for the rape of children if states want to apply it in those cases.

With the court already on record this term reaffirming the constitutionality of capital punishment in a case dealing with lethal injection, Kennedy dwelt at length on the need to limit the death penalty to the most heinous killings.

The decision allows death sentences to continue to be imposed for crimes such as treason, espionage and terrorism, which Kennedy labeled as crimes against the state.

The Supreme Court banned executions for rape in 1977 in a case in which the victim was an adult woman.

Forty-four states prohibit the death penalty for any kind of rape, and five states besides Louisiana have allowed it for child rapists — Georgia, Montana, Oklahoma, South Carolina and Texas.

The court struggled over how to apply standards laid out in decisions barring executions for the mentally retarded and people younger than 18 when they committed murder. In those cases, the court cited trends in the states away from capital punishment.

In this case, proponents of the Louisiana law said the trend was toward the death penalty, a point mentioned by Justice Samuel Alito in his dissent.

"The harm that is caused to the victims and to society at large by the worst child rapists is grave," Alito wrote. "It is the judgment of the Louisiana lawmakers and those in an increasing number of other states that these harms justify the death penalty."

But Kennedy said the absence of any recent executions for rape and the small number of states that allow it demonstrate "there is a national consensus against capital punishment for the crime of child rape."

Kennedy acknowledged that the decision had to come to terms with "the years of long anguish that must be endured by the victim of child rape."

Still, he concluded that in cases of crimes against individuals, "the death penalty should not be expanded to instances where the victim's life was not taken."

He also cited arguments made by social workers and others that children and their families might not cooperate with authorities if a death sentence could result against the rapist. In many cases, including the one before the court, the victim and rapist are related.

The author of the Louisiana law, former Republican state Rep. Pete Schneider, said even opponents of the death penalty told him they would kill anyone who raped their children. "When are you going to have the courage to stand up for what's right for all of the people — but especially the children under 12 that have been brutally raped by monsters?" Schneider demanded, directing his comments to the justices in Wednesday's majority.

The last executions for crimes other than murder took place in 1964, according to a database maintained by the Death Penalty Information Center.

Ronald Wolfe, 34, died in Missouri's gas chamber on May 8, 1964, for rape. James Coburn was electrocuted in Alabama on Sept. 4 of that year for robbery.

The case before the court involved Patrick Kennedy, 43, who was sentenced to death for the rape of his 8-year-old stepdaughter in Louisiana.

Kennedy was convicted in 2003. The girl initially told police she was sorting Girl Scout cookies in the garage when two boys assaulted her.

Police arrested Kennedy a couple of weeks after the March 1998 rape, but more than 20 months passed before the girl identified him as her attacker.

The Louisiana Supreme Court upheld the sentence, saying that "short of first-degree murder, we can think of no other non-homicide crime more deserving" of the death penalty. State Chief Justice Pascal Calogero noted in dissent that the U.S. high court already had made clear that capital punishment could not be imposed without the death of the victim, except possibly for espionage or treason.

The girl's mother was reached by The Associated Press following the court's decision Wednesday. "We don't talk about that," she said and hung up.

A second Louisiana defendant, Richard Davis, was given the death penalty in December for repeatedly raping a 5-year-old girl in Caddo Parish.

Local prosecutor Lea Hall told jurors: "Execute this man. Justice has a sword and this sword needs to swing today." Both men will get new sentences.

The case is Kennedy v. Louisiana, 07-343.
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  • cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 16,497
    That's too bad. That is an instance where I'd be all for it.
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  • RainDogRainDog Posts: 1,824
    I agree with the court on this one - and disagree with both my chosen presidential candidate and current governor.

    But, Obama has said in the past that his model for Supreme Court justice picks would be of the kind that voted in the majority here, so I'm not too concerned about his election year posturing in this case (more disappointed in his recent FISA approach).
  • ThecureThecure Posts: 814
    RainDog wrote:
    I agree with the court on this one - and disagree with both my chosen presidential candidate and current governor.

    But, Obama has said in the past that his model for Supreme Court justice picks would be of the kind that voted in the majority here, so I'm not too concerned about his election year posturing in this case (more disappointed in his recent FISA approach).

    i would be more concerned abotu his election year postering becuase it tells me that he not telling the truth.
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  • LikeAnOceanLikeAnOcean Posts: 7,718
    That's too bad. That is an instance where I'd be all for it.
    An instance? If he had killed the 8 year old instead would you be cool with letting him live?
  • RainDogRainDog Posts: 1,824
    Thecure wrote:
    i would be more concerned abotu his election year postering becuase it tells me that he not telling the truth.
    Actually, his death penalty position has been pretty consistant (a reformer rather than an outright opponent like me). The "posturing" was him offering his opinion on the decision, which, as a president has no say in death penalty cases outside of the kind of justices he would appoint, serves no purpose other than giving him a chance to say "I'm not soft on crime" - but it isn't being dishonest.

    Being dishonest would be him changing his mind on what type of justice he'd appoint to the court based solely on this decision. If he suddenly becomes a Scalia fan, rather than a Ginsberg one, then there'd be a problem.
  • eh a child molester's sentence in prison is probably worse
  • Kel VarnsenKel Varnsen Posts: 1,952
    MrSmith wrote:
    eh a child molester's sentence in prison is probably worse


    That is one of the things I was thinking. I mean if he is on death row he is isolated from the rest of the prison population right?
  • cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 16,497
    An instance? If he had killed the 8 year old instead would you be cool with letting him live?


    Huh?

    What I was saying that I am for the Death Penalty for Child rape...I said an instance, not the only instance. I'm currently for it for murderers as well.

    Though it's a touchy subject and I can understand and respect someone that doesn't believe in it at all.
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  • LikeAnOceanLikeAnOcean Posts: 7,718
    Huh?

    What I was saying that I am for the Death Penalty for Child rape...I said an instance, not the only instance. I'm currently for it for murderers as well.

    Though it's a touchy subject and I can understand and respect someone that doesn't believe in it at all.
    I'm for the death penalty in certain instances, but I am a firm believer that life in prison is much more torturous than death.. I would rather be put to death than spend my life in a cage being somebodies bitch... This dude deserves prison.

    Now that I think about it, they only reason I'm for the death penalty is because I don't want my tax dollars paying for these people in prison.
  • _Crazy_Mary__Crazy_Mary_ Posts: 1,299
    I think this is a terrible ruling. There is no room for people that rape children in this world. Put them down right now!
    I really screwed that up. I really Schruted it.
  • cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 16,497
    I'm for the death penalty in certain instances, but I am a firm believer that life in prison is much more torturous than death.. I would rather be put to death than spend my life in a cage being somebodies bitch... This dude deserves prison.


    I can see that.

    Personally, I'd rather throw the switch myself. If you can rape a child, you are capable of anything and you need to go.
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  • down_skidown_ski Posts: 328
    Fuck the judicial system. If it was my son or daughter I'd take care of it myself.
  • That is one of the things I was thinking. I mean if he is on death row he is isolated from the rest of the prison population right?
    either that or he will get killed.
  • Kel VarnsenKel Varnsen Posts: 1,952
    I have always thought that if there is no afterlife, or if there is an afterlife where people get rewarded no matter what, then wouldn't the death penalty (compared to life in prison) be more of an escape then a punishment.
  • beachdwellerbeachdweller Posts: 1,532
    actually, the court is telling us something, the government is not allowed to execute perves for child rape, but Americans have the right to own fire arms....BAM!

    problem solved
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  • CosmoCosmo Posts: 12,225
    Prison is a fucked up place to be. Just drop the guy in the yard with the animals for the rest of his life... and I can almost guarantee that his life will be short, yet full of pain.
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  • CosmoCosmo Posts: 12,225
    Prison is a fucked up place to be. Just drop the guy in the yard with the animals for the rest of his life... and I can almost guarantee that his life will be short, yet full of pain.
    Allen Fieldhouse, home of the 2008 NCAA men's Basketball Champions! Go Jayhawks!
    Hail, Hail!!!
  • Prison is a fucked up place to be. Just drop the guy in the yard with the animals for the rest of his life... and I can almost guarantee that his life will be short, yet full of pain.
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