John Edwards quits the race

ledvedderman

RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:

Post #16 applies to you more actually.

You can't even discuss actual issues of what your candidate stands for. All you do is spin in air based on opinions of how you feel about him.

This just in.... YOU CAN'T EITHER

We have tried with you in the past and it was a waste of our time. We've given you articles, speeches, and other little goodies to support our cause and the fact that someone doesn't think the way that you do just doesn't get through your bell graph head.

RolandTD20Kdrummer

cornnifer wrote:

Actually, you're full of shit. Talk about spin. Sheesh. Are you going to follow me around from thread to thread all day popping off about ubsubstantiated "zionist, warmongering, Obama bullshit all day, or are you tired yet?"

You can't even see the sky before your face, I bet car salesmen love to see you coming.

You're an easy sell(out)

too easy..

Pacomc79

He's probably looking at the writing on the wall and deciding his energies are better spent elsewhere. It's a smart move, he will likely make a bid for running mate/VP

Riverrunner

Yes, this really does suck!! I wish he could have waited until Super Tuesday and see what happened.

cornnifer

sweetpotato wrote:

I wish he would've hung in there until Super Tuesday. I believe he could've taken alot of delegates then.


FUUUUUUUUCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

This truly sucks.

Its been a two person race for sometime now. This way he can sit back and watch who performs well on super Tuesday, endorse that person, and hope to be chosen as running mate. i respected him, but he is starting to look like an opprotunist which has always been my concern with him.

RolandTD20Kdrummer

ledvedderman wrote:

This just in.... YOU CAN'T EITHER

We have tried with you in the past and it was a waste of our time. We've given you articles, speeches, and other little goodies to support our cause and the fact that someone doesn't think the way that you do just doesn't get through your bell graph head.

Ok how is Obama going to fix foreign policy by supporting the MIC route?

what has he said about that? your answer pls?

better yet... do you even understand what blowback is and why it happens?

two very easy to answer questions...

sweetpotato

here's a thought- why don't you two knuckleheads take your catfight to the pm's? :rolleyes:

RolandTD20Kdrummer

Far be it from me to try to steer the thread outside of useless opinion and person attack and back to the issues themselves.


my bad...

dg1979us

RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:

Far be it from me to try to steer the thread outside of useless opinion and person attack and back to the issues themselves.


my bad...

You havent discussed a single issue on this thread that I can see. Other than Edwards haircut of course.

ledvedderman

RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:

Ok how is Obama going to fix foreign policy by supporting the MIC route?

what has he said about that? your answer pls?

better yet... do you even understand what blowback is and why it happens?

two very easy to answer questions...

To be quite honest Roland I don't know what the fuck the MIC route is or blowback. There, ya got me beat there on your bell graph. What I know are political campaigns and strategy. Here's why I am supporting Obama:

1) I know the man personally. I've worked with him in the past. I've been around politics for much of my adult life and he is the most genuine person I have ever met in this arena.

2) I was against this war since December 2000 when George Bush got awarded the Oval Office. While I know that there are other candidates who did not vote for the authorization of force, I chose Obama. (See answer 1)

3) This country is as divided now as it has been in 40 years. The president had a 90% approval rating after 9/11 and now it's below 30%. Barack Obama worked both sides of the aisle unlike anyone I have seen in the Illinois statehouse, which is saying a lot because Illinois is not very bi-partisan at all.
While I am sure you will admit the country is divided, you are supporting a candidate who would divide EVERYBODY against him. That's not what we need now. No Republicans or Democrats would work with Congressman Paul.

4) We are in a war that is closing in on 4,000 US soldier deaths, the economy is in the crapper, and people are dying because they cannot afford healthcare. When times are bad like they are now, sometimes the best thing to get behind is something you can believe in. If it was all about the best ideas than Joe Biden would be the candidate.

Obama sparks something in millions of people that is a once in a generation. Not since RFK has there been this sort of luster to a candidate that people really believe there could be a change.

That is, in short, why I am supporting Obama. If you want to play alphabet soup with me I will dig into all of them and form my own opinion. I'm sure Ron Paul has all the answers to this campaign, but this country needs to be put back together and he is not going to do that.

sweetpotato

sorry- maybe i'm confused. i thought this was a thread about john edwards. silly me.


ANYwhoo, his campaign website isn;t saying anything (yet) about his plans to withdraw.

sweetpotato

RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:

Far be it from me to try to steer the thread outside of useless opinion...

or away from its topic.

RolandTD20Kdrummer

ledvedderman wrote:

To be quite honest Roland I don't know what the fuck the MIC route is or blowback. There, ya got me beat there on your bell graph.

I sincerely hope you're joking...

RolandTD20Kdrummer

sweetpotato wrote:

or away from its topic.

meh...don't they all... you dislike my political views and don't even know why ...so no bigge...

ledvedderman

RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:

I sincerely hope you're joking...

I'll leave that one up to you.

Enlighten us all with your vast knowledge of the MIC and why you disagree with Senator Obama.

Obama on Iraqi blowback:
"t will take more than force to defeat this threat. It will take wisdom and patience to restore America's credibility in the Muslim world and reduce both passive and active support for extremists. We need to partner with the vast majority of Muslims in their struggle against those who would distort their religion, create oppressive theocracies, and kill innocents. We must demonstrate through action, not mere words, that America is not at war with Islam, and that we will stand with those Muslims who seek a better future."'

What a warmonger...

cornnifer

i'm thinking with Edwards out, even without an Obama endorsement, most of his supporters will turn to Obama anyway. i might be wrong. hillary and obama will undoubtedly split his supporters, but i don't think it will be an even split, and i think Obama ends up on the winning end of that battle.

ledvedderman

cornnifer wrote:

i'm thinking with Edwards out, even without an Obama endorsement, most of his supporters will turn to Obama anyway. i might be wrong. hillary and obama will undoubtedly split his supporters, but i don't think it will be an even split, and i think Obama ends up on the winning end of that battle.

I could see the split between Edwards voters going 60/40 for Obama. Someone posted earlier that he will hold off on supporting anyone until Super Tuesday. I don't think he will be a VP candidate at all. I think he is in line for a Attorney General.

sweetpotato

RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:

meh...don't they all... you dislike my political views and don't even know why ...so no bigge...

no, they DON'T all, and i have no problem with your "political views". it's YOU i dislike.

RolandTD20Kdrummer

ledvedderman wrote:

I'll leave that one up to you.

Enlighten us all with your vast knowledge of the MIC and why you disagree with Senator Obama.

Obama on Iraqi blowback:
"t will take more than force to defeat this threat. (but it will take force) It will take wisdom and patience to restore America's credibility in the Muslim world and reduce both passive and active support for extremists. (continued middle east presence to fight extremism) We need to partner with the vast majority of Muslims in their struggle against those who would distort their religion, create oppressive theocracies, and kill innocents. (again continued presence in the middle east) We must demonstrate through action (what kind of action?) , not mere words, that America is not at war with Islam, and that we will stand with those Muslims who seek a better future."' (This is a nothing more than a declaration on a persistent course to fight against extremism...a.k.a additional military intervention)

What a warmonger...

my comments in parentheses and bolded

"What a warmonger." wel it certainly doesn't read like a peace activist approach that's for sure....

He'll be played, unless his foreign policy becomes a little more black and white. You can't play along in the system and expect to be outside of it at the same time.

Obama is going to get a wakeup call when he realizes this.

He's already guaranteeing troops in Iraq until at least 2013 so that would very easily be 2015, it's never less or ahead of schedule with this type of situation.

RolandTD20Kdrummer

sweetpotato wrote:

no, they DON'T all, and i have no problem with your "political views". it's YOU i dislike.

Oh well, cry me a river..

I think you've been asked a few times what you dislike about RP, but you just glaze over stunned by yourself...