The New Yorker cover

puremagic
puremagic Posts: 1,907
edited July 2008 in A Moving Train
http://news.yahoo.com/s/politico/20080714/pl_politico/11719


It shows Obama's wife Michelle with an Afro and an AK-47 and the two of them doing the fist bump with Senator Obama in a turban head wrap and the American flag burning in the fireplace.
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Is it really satire or have they gone to far?
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  • DriftingByTheStorm
    DriftingByTheStorm Posts: 8,684
    Gone to far, like they should be hauled off to a secret camp and executed along with the 9/11 truthers?

    Or "gone to far", as in, simple poor taste.

    If it's simple poor taste,
    how bout just ignore the magazine, and not give it further publicity?

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  • NMyTree
    NMyTree Posts: 2,374
    Either that, or some people have lost complete ability to detect humor or sarcasm.


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  • Urban Hiker
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    I love satire. It is satire. The risk with satire is, "Will people get it?"

    When they don't, something like this causes a HUGE shit storm.
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  • inmytree
    inmytree Posts: 4,741
    NMyTree wrote:
    Either that, or some people have lost complete ability to detect humor or sarcasm.

    I guess I'm one of those folks....

    If you would, could you point out the humor for me....I missed it...
  • blackredyellow
    blackredyellow Posts: 5,889
    I think that is too far, especially when some people do view the Obamas that way.

    What's next, showing McCain all decrypted in a wheelchair pressing the button to nuclear bomb the middle east, while having flashbacks of his POW days?
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  • NMyTree
    NMyTree Posts: 2,374
    inmytree wrote:
    I guess I'm one of those folks....

    If you would, could you point out the humor for me....I missed it...

    It's poking fun at the idiots in this country who still perceive Obama as a Muslim and have gone about attacking his wife. It's poking fun at the American people and media. Not at Obama and his wife.
  • farfromglorified
    farfromglorified Posts: 5,700
    Is it really satire or have they gone to far?

    Since there's no such thing as "too far" in terms of speech and since this fits every definition of satire, I'll go with "satire".
  • NMyTree
    NMyTree Posts: 2,374
    blackredyellow wrote:
    ....... especially when some people do view the Obamas that way.

    That's the point.
  • nobody
    nobody Posts: 353
    Urban Hiker wrote:
    I love satire. It is satire. The risk with satire is, "Will people get it?"

    When they don't, something like this causes a HUGE shit storm.

    isn't satire supposed to be an overblown picture of reality with comical effect?
    so either this isn't satire, or the people from new yorker have no sense for reality whatsoever...
    or if it's a charicature of people's weird imaginations about the Obamas...then it is satire;)

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  • NMyTree
    NMyTree Posts: 2,374
    nobody wrote:
    or if it's a charicature of people's weird imaginations about the Obamas...then it is satire;)

    nobody=Gets It!!


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  • nobody
    nobody Posts: 353
    NMyTree wrote:
    nobody=Gets It!!


    And for the humor-challenged

    My three words are in fact a double entendre

    well, only after I read the new yorkers explanation...;)
    first I thought I remembered it being a "rightwing" magazine though;)...wikipedia told me differently...

    m.
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  • NMyTree
    NMyTree Posts: 2,374
    I didn't even read the article, lol.

    But I knew what all the whining and feigned-outrage was about. And I certainly knew what the conceptual art was supposed to mean. Really not complicated to figure out.
  • anotherclone
    anotherclone Posts: 1,688
    You know what? Politically intelligent people realize this is satire. I would think the Obama campaign even realizes it is satire. I'm sure the fear of the campaign is the so-called "low information voters", who will take that picture and run with it in a completely different direction.
  • inmytree
    inmytree Posts: 4,741
    NMyTree wrote:
    It's poking fun at the idiots in this country who still perceive Obama as a Muslim and have gone about attacking his wife. It's poking fun at the American people and media. Not at Obama and his wife.

    hmmmm....I guess I missed it...

    you know, portraying Mrs. Obama as a Black Panther Ghetto Mama and Mr. Obama as 'secret Muslim' who hates America is Gold!!! Pure Gold...!!!!

    oh, the humour, pish posh...
  • nobody
    nobody Posts: 353
    anotherclone wrote:
    You know what? Politically intelligent people realize this is satire. I would think the Obama campaign even realizes it is satire. I'm sure the fear of the campaign is the so-called "low information voters", who will take that picture and run with it in a completely different direction.

    in a time in which flag-pins, middle names, traditional clothes, fist bumps, and the like are politicized, it is at times hard for the (foreign) observer to tell satire from reality...;)

    m.
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  • NMyTree
    NMyTree Posts: 2,374
    anotherclone wrote:
    You know what? Politically intelligent people realize this is satire. I would think the Obama campaign even realizes it is satire. I'm sure the fear of the campaign is the so-called "low information voters", who will take that picture and run with it in a completely different direction.

    Absolutely.

    Hey, I'm not an Obama supporter....won't vote for him. But as it has already been proven, there are an awful lot of ignorant and uptight Americans. So you can't really blame Obama for "having to" put out a statment like that so the brickheads don't lose their ever-Jesus-Loving Minds.
  • NMyTree
    NMyTree Posts: 2,374
    nobody wrote:
    in a time in which flag-pins, middle names, traditional clothes, fist bumps, and the like are politicized, it is at times hard for the (foreign) observer to tell satire from reality...;)

    m.

    I imagine foreigners would be confused by all of this. You have to really be familiar with this countries political landscape and our interesting population; to really get it.
  • nobody
    nobody Posts: 353
    NMyTree wrote:
    I imagine foreigners would be confused by all of this. You have to really be familiar with this countries political landscape and our interesting population; to really get it.

    oh, I'm quite into it (mostly for its entertainment value)...not so much into the magazine landscape though;)
    so I made the conclusion that it came from "the other side", which wouldn't have surprised me if it was actually meant as real...;)

    m.
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  • decides2dream
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    Urban Hiker wrote:
    I love satire. It is satire. The risk with satire is, "Will people get it?"

    When they don't, something like this causes a HUGE shit storm.


    agreed.


    and even if one 'gets it'.....sometimes, it's still in poor taste. so i'd say, not really well done satire in any case. i should at least laugh, and then feel guilty. :p and i did neither.
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  • anotherclone
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    There is an article on mediamatters.org that references a random poll regarding the cover. 60% of the respondents say the picture isn't "too far from the truth of the dangerous Obama family". Granted, the poll is non-scientific and not from a reliable source, but still...

    http://mediamatters.org/items/200807140002?f=h_top

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