Residents of European Countries

puremagic
puremagic Posts: 1,907
edited June 2007 in A Moving Train
I'd like to hear how you feel about a missile defense shield. If it's to protect you from an attack from Iran, why not put this shield in Israel or Turkey or UAE or Saudi Arabia?

As Americans
-we have not had bombs dropped on our country.
-we have not had to worry about unexploded landmines
-we have not had to worry about an invasive land war on our soil
-we have not had to worry about our country being splittered into sects.

I asked myself if the world was ready for the following but realized, even saying "world" still means it's not in my backyard.

-Another Cold War with Russia?
-Russian missiles pointed at Europe?
-A missile defense shield in former USSR breakaway countries?
-Nuclear technology in countries who so far have not been able to control their own black market weapons?
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  • Specifics
    Specifics Posts: 417
    I just thank God for giving us america, i mean what would the World be like without it?

    Wheres the harm? as far as i understand it the missiles used in the shield have no war-heads right? they're just like big bullets that slam into nasty "red" missiles ye? So thats harmless, theres no way war-heads could be attached to these harmless "bullets" and turn them into an offensive weapon, therefore there can be no threat of further expanionism
    I'm beyond anything but sarcasm about the whole thing.
  • jlew24asu
    jlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    Specifics wrote:
    I just thank God for giving us america, i mean what would the World be like without it?

    Wheres the harm? as far as i understand it the missiles used in the shield have no war-heads right? they're just like big bullets that slam into nasty "red" missiles ye? So thats harmless, theres no way war-heads could be attached to these harmless "bullets" and turn them into an offensive weapon, therefore there can be no threat of further expanionism
    I'm beyond anything but sarcasm about the whole thing.
    I say we just nuke america right buddy!!!!
  • Drew263
    Drew263 Birmingham, AL Posts: 602
    puremagic wrote:
    I'd like to hear how you feel about a missile defense shield. If it's to protect you from an attack from Iran, why not put this shield in Israel or Turkey or UAE or Saudi Arabia?

    As Americans
    -we have not had bombs dropped on our country.
    -we have not had to worry about unexploded landmines
    -we have not had to worry about an invasive land war on our soil
    -we have not had to worry about our country being splittered into sects.

    I asked myself if the world was ready for the following but realized, even saying "world" still means it's not in my backyard.

    -Another Cold War with Russia?
    -Russian missiles pointed at Europe?
    -A missile defense shield in former USSR breakaway countries?
    -Nuclear technology in countries who so far have not been able to control their own black market weapons?

    As a true republican, I must wonder...how much fucking money are we wasting on this brilliant move by W?
  • spiral out
    spiral out Posts: 1,052
    I thank god everyday for america too, i mean who would we have to protect us from the boogie men.

    And boy what a great job they do at keeping the peace.

    The world loves america.
    Keep on rockin in the free world!!!!

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  • mammasan
    mammasan Posts: 5,656
    Drew263 wrote:
    As a true republican, I must wonder...how much fucking money are we wasting on this brilliant move by W?

    I wonder the samething as well. It just seems like another military project with the sole intent of lining some CEOs pocket.
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  • Specifics
    Specifics Posts: 417
    jlew24asu wrote:
    I say we just nuke america right buddy!!!!

    Wow thats not only very stupid, its unpatriotic, and i'm a long way from liking you, im certainly not your buddy.
  • jlew24asu
    jlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    Specifics wrote:
    Wow thats not only very stupid, its unpatriotic, and i'm a long way from liking you, im certainly not your buddy.
    coming from the biggest america hater on this board, your calling me unpatriotic? I cant imagine the jig you'll dance if that ever happens to us.
  • Specifics
    Specifics Posts: 417
    jlew24asu wrote:
    coming from the biggest america hater on this board, your calling me unpatriotic? I cant imagine the jig you'll dance if that ever happens to us.

    i just know patriotism is all you've got, so it was easy really.
    i wouldnt dance a jig, theres a lot of very cool people in america, you're not one of them.
    Is that all you have to add by the way? lets hear what you think about the subject at hand.
  • mammasan
    mammasan Posts: 5,656
    Now boys play nice.
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  • Kann
    Kann Posts: 1,146
    I think it desperately sucks. I like my lifestyle, I like where I live and I have hope that I can at least give back some of my wealth to help unwealthy others. And I would like to do that in peace. But there we have 3 of the biggest immature idiots playing with the whole world's safety. Not just there lives mind you, or at worse there own country, no the whole world. And for what exactly? I don't want Iran to have nukes, I don't want the US to put arms attracting shields everywhere and I would like the megalomaniac russian to take diplomatic lessons.
    And while we're in the middle looking at these 3 playing with words, arms and money like 14 year olds there's nothing we can say to just get them to shut up already. I hope one day some people will realise they can only claim proprety on their own lives.
    So basically I think it's a bad idea. It took long enough to find a moderate equilibrium in the nuclear field, let's not do worse than things already are.
  • You don't have to nuke America...just pour some jet fuel on it and everything will melt.... :D
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  • catefrances
    catefrances Posts: 29,003
    You don't have to nuke America...just pour some jet fuel on it and everything will melt.... :D

    or.. stick a pin in it and watch it pop!! :D:D :p
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  • or.. stick a pin in it and watch it pop!! :D:D :p

    :D

    I hear the same thing happens with Karl Rove's head...lol
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
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  • spiral out
    spiral out Posts: 1,052
    Kann wrote:
    I think it desperately sucks. I like my lifestyle, I like where I live and I have hope that I can at least give back some of my wealth to help unwealthy others. And I would like to do that in peace. But there we have 3 of the biggest immature idiots playing with the whole world's safety. Not just there lives mind you, or at worse there own country, no the whole world. And for what exactly? I don't want Iran to have nukes, I don't want the US to put arms attracting shields everywhere and I would like the megalomaniac russian to take diplomatic lessons.
    And while we're in the middle looking at these 3 playing with words, arms and money like 14 year olds there's nothing we can say to just get them to shut up already. I hope one day some people will realise they can only claim proprety on their own lives.
    So basically I think it's a bad idea. It took long enough to find a moderate equilibrium in the nuclear field, let's not do worse than things already are.

    Just one thing there not playing with there own lives there all perfectly safe, there playing with our lives, and not even american lives.
    Keep on rockin in the free world!!!!

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  • redrock
    redrock Posts: 18,341
    puremagic wrote:
    If it's to protect you from an attack from Iran,
    How could anyone think these missiles are to 'protect us from Iran'?

    If the US really want to play war and put missiles somewhere, let it be in the USA...
  • Collin
    Collin Posts: 4,931
    puremagic wrote:
    If it's to protect you from an attack from Iran

    How is that supposed to work? Can anyone explain, please?
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  • catefrances
    catefrances Posts: 29,003
    Collin wrote:
    How is that supposed to work? Can anyone explain, please?

    ooh ooh i got it. now that the US owns iraq, they could put their defense missiles on the iraq-iran border. that'll learn em good i reckon. :D:p
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  • evenkat
    evenkat Posts: 380
    The way I see it is there is only one real reason to have a missile shield and that's to be able to engage in nuclear war. If we think a shield protects us then what will stop us from going too far with nuking people?

    However I also wonder if the US is the only country with a shield will it bully other countries even more? If the US engages in nuclear war with a country, will that country nuke the unprotected allied countries to get back at the US?

    The whole thing just scares me. And I'm not even sure if the freakin thing will work properly if the first place.

    I don't want Russia pointing nukes at European countries or the US as they already are, but I also wish the US didn't have nukes pointing at Russia either. If this all happened before Bush became President I probably would have wanted the shield in the US but I've learned what it's like to have an untrustworthy, war happy President who has already gone way too far.

    Nukes, shield and crazy President or leader will just lead to disaster.
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  • Hitch-Hiker
    Hitch-Hiker Posts: 2,873
    puremagic wrote:
    I'd like to hear how you feel about a missile defense shield. If it's to protect you from an attack from Iran, why not put this shield in Israel or Turkey or UAE or Saudi Arabia?

    Isn't it great that Bush has decided to help us poor defenceless Europeans against the inevitable attacks from Iran :rolleyes:
    Seriously, which European countries are currently under threat from Iran? That's right -none. now, because of Americas actions, how many European countries will be under threat from Russia?
    puremagic wrote:
    As Americans
    -we have not had bombs dropped on our country.
    -we have not had to worry about unexploded landmines
    -we have not had to worry about an invasive land war on our soil
    -we have not had to worry about our country being splittered into sects.

    As Europeans (Irish, British, Germans, French, Spanish, Hungarians, Austrians, Swiss, Swedish, Norwegian, Finnish, Greek, etc...)
    -we have not had bombs dropped on our country.
    -we have not had to worry about unexploded landmines
    -we have not had to worry about an invasive land war on our soil
    -we have not had to worry about our country being splittered into sects - there are some minority groups still at work in some parts, but the Balkan countries and former Soviet countries are well on their way to becoming fully democratic states. The majority are already there.

    We do not have to set up missile defences either. If Bush wants to protect America, that's fine - He can line New York and California with a missile shield. I think we're ok over here as far as protection goes.
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  • polaris
    polaris Posts: 3,527
    this is what happens when you're entire G-8 crew is led by right-wing neo-cons ... global economic control ... it's all they want ...

    if i was china/russia - i would definitely be pissed ... if anyone thinks more weapons is the way to peace - you're are definitely living in the right times ...