Rev. Hagee said Hilter was Fulfilling God's Will

puremagic
puremagic Posts: 1,907
edited May 2008 in A Moving Train
Why is that no one is ripping McCain and Hagee a new one?
SIN EATERS--We take the moral excrement we find in this equation and we bury it down deep inside of us so that the rest of our case can stay pure. That is the job. We are morally indefensible and absolutely necessary.
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  • Pacomc79
    Pacomc79 Posts: 9,404
    they got him pretty good on one morning news program this morning. It's coming. For the rest... I think they are looking at it monitarily because the "morally superiour network/newspaper panders to the morally superior masses" and aparently they like this guy... never heard of him before today.

    thankfully.... he's a freaking lunatic.
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  • jeffbr
    jeffbr Seattle Posts: 7,177
    There have been a few Hagee threads, but not enough. Please post the details. McCain didn't have quite the same relationship with Hagee as the other candidate did with his looney pastor (trying not to turn this thread into that thread), but McCain did say he was proud of Hagee's endorsement. I know I'd be doing everything I could to distance myself from that asshole. Tiabbi did a good piece on infiltrating Hagee's church and going to a retreat that was both funny and scary.
    "I'll use the magic word - let's just shut the fuck up, please." EV, 04/13/08
  • RainDog
    RainDog Posts: 1,824
    jeffbr wrote:
    There have been a few Hagee threads, but not enough. Please post the details. McCain didn't have quite the same relationship with Hagee as the other candidate did with his looney pastor (trying not to turn this thread into that thread), but McCain did say he was proud of Hagee's endorsement. I know I'd be doing everything I could to distance myself from that asshole. Tiabbi did a good piece on infiltrating Hagee's church and going to a retreat that was both funny and scary.
    If you're a cynic like me, it is pretty much the same relationship. Obama is a politician, and an ambitious one at that. Ambitious politicians tend to seek the support of politically connected religious wackos. Rev. Wright is one of those wackos on the local Chicago scene. Hagee is one of those wackos on the national scene. In my mind, both candidates lose the same number of points for their religious pandering.

    Of course, that still means Obama's score is higher.
  • JP2026766
    JP2026766 Posts: 1,125
    People want McCain to renounce Hagee, yet they didn't want Obama to renounce Rev. Wright...hypocritical much? In fact, what Obama did was worse because he went to the man's church for 20 years, considered him a father figure and spiritual adviser, married him and his wife, and baptized his kids.

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  • my2hands
    my2hands Posts: 17,117
    dont worry...

    it will all start to come out now that the spotlight is on the 2 party candidates instead of the deomocratic primary


    now that the spotlight is on mccain it is a whole new ball game
  • inmytree
    inmytree Posts: 4,741
    jeffbr wrote:
    There have been a few Hagee threads, but not enough. Please post the details. McCain didn't have quite the same relationship with Hagee as the other candidate did with his looney pastor (trying not to turn this thread into that thread), but McCain did say he was proud of Hagee's endorsement. I know I'd be doing everything I could to distance myself from that asshole. Tiabbi did a good piece on infiltrating Hagee's church and going to a retreat that was both funny and scary.

    yeah, I've posted a couple times about Hagee, mostly during the all the fun with Wright. Basically, McCain sought out Hagee's endorsement...

    The Rolling Stone piece was great...Jesus made me Puke...good stuff indeed...

    more on Hagee:

    http://www.crooksandliars.com/2008/05/21/hagee-hitler-was-fulfilling-gods-will/

    http://www.crooksandliars.com/2008/05/07/the-videos-that-could-pose-a-problem-for-mccain/

    http://www.crooksandliars.com/2008/04/24/mccains-televangelist-ally-believes-god-damns-america/
  • RainDog
    RainDog Posts: 1,824
    ThrowUrArmsAroundMe wrote:
    People want McCain to renounce Hagee, yet they didn't want Obama to renounce Rev. Wright...hypocritical much? In fact, what Obama did was worse because he went to the man's church for 20 years, considered him a father figure and spiritual adviser, married him and his wife, and baptized his kids.
    Obama did renounce Wright. Oh, and Obama never married Wright nor baptized Wright's children. ;)



    Somehow I doubt your earlier claim of undecided observer.
  • JP2026766
    JP2026766 Posts: 1,125
    RainDog wrote:
    Obama did renounce Wright. Oh, and Obama never married Wright nor baptized Wright's children. ;)



    Somehow I doubt your earlier claim of undecided observer.

    I am undecided, I have not figured out who I will vote for. He didn't really renounce him, he just kinda told him to be quiet for awhile so that he didn't get totally fucked. And I knew a smartass would come out and say that my grammar was wrong there...because that's real mature. Rather than address the issue, point out a different problem. Typical.

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  • puremagic
    puremagic Posts: 1,907
    ThrowUrArmsAroundMe wrote:
    People want McCain to renounce Hagee, yet they didn't want Obama to renounce Rev. Wright...hypocritical much? In fact, what Obama did was worse because he went to the man's church for 20 years, considered him a father figure and spiritual adviser, married him and his wife, and baptized his kids.

    Wright did all those thing as the pastor of his church for a member of his church. Wright's rants were about black on black issues.

    Wright didn't applaud or condone the genocide of a people.

    The fact that no one ever heard of Rev. Wright, didn't stop them from going after Obama. It wasn't the man, it was his words, just like Hagee, it is his words.

    The fact is, McCain is well aware of Hagee's positions, Hagee on behalf of McCain, gets to be the smear mouth piece, while McCain pretents to be senile to such events.

    A person can denounce McCain and Hagee's remarks without saying they support Obama.
    SIN EATERS--We take the moral excrement we find in this equation and we bury it down deep inside of us so that the rest of our case can stay pure. That is the job. We are morally indefensible and absolutely necessary.
  • jeffbr
    jeffbr Seattle Posts: 7,177
    Why do we have to try to make Wright look good to make Hagee look bad or vice versa. Why can't we say they're both douchebags, and that Obama and McCain are/were stupid for having relationships with them?
    "I'll use the magic word - let's just shut the fuck up, please." EV, 04/13/08
  • RainDog
    RainDog Posts: 1,824
    ThrowUrArmsAroundMe wrote:
    I am undecided, I have not figured out who I will vote for. He didn't really renounce him, he just kinda told him to be quiet for awhile so that he didn't get totally fucked. And I knew a smartass would come out and say that my grammar was wrong there...because that's real mature. Rather than address the issue, point out a different problem. Typical.
    Yep. I'm just a typical white person, here.

    The " ;) " in my post was because I wanted you to know I was just making a joke.

    To the point (again, because I did address the point in my other post, no matter how brief) Obama did renounce Wright. Not at first, instead opting to renounce the comments instead; but when Wright came back and exacerbated the whole issue, Obama dropped him like a stone.
  • RainDog
    RainDog Posts: 1,824
    jeffbr wrote:
    Why do we have to try to make Wright look good to make Hagee look bad or vice versa. Why can't we say they're both douchebags, and that Obama and McCain are/were stupid for having relationships with them?
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  • JP2026766
    JP2026766 Posts: 1,125
    RainDog wrote:
    Yep. I'm just a typical white person, here.

    The " ;) " in my post was because I wanted you to know I was just making a joke.

    To the point (again, because I did address the point in my other post, no matter how brief) Obama did renounce Wright. Not at first, instead opting to renounce the comments instead; but when Wright came back and exacerbated the whole issue, Obama dropped him like a stone.

    Haha, you are correct. Sometimes I just get frustrated when people in politics act the way they do. But you're right, he did denounce him. It's just hard for me to ignore 20 years Obama spent with Wright. But as one previous poster mentioned, McCain and Obama are morons for even associating with either one of them.

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  • NMyTree
    NMyTree Posts: 2,374
    Hagee's a fucking idiot.

    Someone please drag him into a dark alley and smack the shit out of him.

    The fact McCain can say he's proud of this dickwad's endoursement, says it all about McCain.

    What a whacky and demented world.
  • wwfairfield
    wwfairfield Posts: 216
    ThrowUrArmsAroundMe wrote:
    People want McCain to renounce Hagee, yet they didn't want Obama to renounce Rev. Wright...hypocritical much? In fact, what Obama did was worse because he went to the man's church for 20 years, considered him a father figure and spiritual adviser, married him and his wife, and baptized his kids.



    so... you admit he is a christian??
    will you stop with the muslim shit?
  • MLC2006
    MLC2006 Posts: 861
    I believe McCain rejected Hagee's endorsement TODAY.
  • Collin
    Collin Posts: 4,931
    Is it weird that I suddenly want to become a pastor, befriend a politician and then when it matters the most say something completely insane?
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  • RolandTD20Kdrummer
    RolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
    They're all the same.. Check out Pat Robertson. This was recorded from a raw satellite feed before editing.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IgKCu2oHeRY&hl=en

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  • chopitdown
    chopitdown Posts: 2,222
    RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:
    They're all the same.. Check out Pat Robertson. This was recorded from a raw satellite feed before editing.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IgKCu2oHeRY&hl=en

    Freaks....

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  • Flannel Shirt
    Flannel Shirt Posts: 1,021
    ThrowUrArmsAroundMe wrote:
    People want McCain to renounce Hagee, yet they didn't want Obama to renounce Rev. Wright...hypocritical much? In fact, what Obama did was worse because he went to the man's church for 20 years, considered him a father figure and spiritual adviser, married him and his wife, and baptized his kids.

    Hagee - Hitler Lover
    Wright - America Basher

    hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

    yup, Hagee is much worse.
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