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Why "Good" Friday?

mca47mca47 Posts: 13,298
edited March 2008 in A Moving Train
On the day Jesus got tortured and killed...why call it "Good" Friday?
Shouldn't relgious types call it "Kind of a crappy" Friday or something similar?
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  • cornnifercornnifer Posts: 2,130
    mca47 wrote:
    On the day Jesus got tortured and killed...why call it "Good" Friday?
    Shouldn't relgious types call it "Kind of a crappy" Friday or something similar?

    i stay out of religious debates here. i am only responding to answer your question. According to Christian belief, Christ's crucifixion is something we greatly benefitted from. We owe our salvation to it. Therefore, whereas perhaps bitersweet, it is, in fact, a good thing.
    "When all your friends and sedatives mean well but make it worse... better find yourself a place to level out."
  • mca47mca47 Posts: 13,298
    cornnifer wrote:
    i stay out of religious debates here. i am only responding to answer your question. According to Christian belief, Christ's crucifixion is something we greatly benefitted from. We owe our salvation to it. Therefore, whereas perhaps bitersweet, it is, in fact, a good thing.

    Yeah, I suppose.

    I bet right after it happened they weren't calling it "Good Friday" though. Hahaha. I bet there were some pissed off people at first.
  • cornnifercornnifer Posts: 2,130
    mca47 wrote:
    Yeah, I suppose.

    I bet right after it happened they weren't calling it "Good Friday" though. Hahaha. I bet there were some pissed off people at first.
    Probably.
    With that, i'm outta this one. Good luck with it.
    "When all your friends and sedatives mean well but make it worse... better find yourself a place to level out."
  • mca47mca47 Posts: 13,298
    cornnifer wrote:
    Probably.
    With that, i'm outta this one. Good luck with it.

    LOL Yeah, I can see this one getting bad.

    It was supposed to be a light-hearted, tongue-in-cheek kinda question but I can see how people might take it the wrong way.

    We'll see...


    :D
  • CosmoCosmo Posts: 12,225
    I found out how they figure out when Easter is:
    The First Sunday.. after the First Full Moon... after the Spring Equinox.
    ...
    Does this mean that Jesus rose from the dead on the First Sunday... after The First Full Moon... after the Spring Equinox of 31 A.D?
    if that's the case... why not have Easter on that date?
    Allen Fieldhouse, home of the 2008 NCAA men's Basketball Champions! Go Jayhawks!
    Hail, Hail!!!
  • Pacomc79Pacomc79 Posts: 9,404
    Cosmo wrote:
    I found out how they figure out when Easter is:
    The First Sunday.. after the First Full Moon... after the Spring Equinox.
    ...
    Does this mean that Jesus rose from the dead on the First Sunday... after The First Full Moon... after the Spring Equinox of 31 A.D?
    if that's the case... why not have Easter on that date?


    no, actually that's the Easter Beagle. The Great Pumpkin comes out on October 31st and flys around the world bringing toys to all the good girls and boys.

    The early Catholic Church was competing for "souls" so to speak so they used the Pagan holidays and adapted some of thier rituals to fit church teaching.

    It's just an observance after all.

    It's kind of fitting really as this is all about the life cycle. Death and Rebirth. It's appropriate it would happen in the spring.

    That, and it works out really well for the Easter Portion of Handel's Messiah. Spring Growth and outstanding baroque music.
    My Girlfriend said to me..."How many guitars do you need?" and I replied...."How many pairs of shoes do you need?" She got really quiet.
  • hodgehodge Posts: 519
    thanks for being crucified J

    this turkey being cooked upstairs smells awesome
    ..and you will come to find that we are all one mind, capable of all that's imagined and all conceivable
  • SnakeSnake Posts: 2,605
    IM REALLY OFFENDED BY THIS THREAD!!!!!









    not really :D its a good question. I kind still dont understand it. But I guess its because thats the day Jesus died for our sins and stuff. But yea Im sure it wasnt to "good" at the time.
    Pirates had democracy too.

    "Its a secret to everybody."
  • Eliot RosewaterEliot Rosewater Posts: 2,659
    mca47 wrote:
    On the day Jesus got tortured and killed...why call it "Good" Friday?
    Shouldn't relgious types call it "Kind of a crappy" Friday or something similar?
    Duh, he died for YOU...isn't that good :D:D:D
  • CosmoCosmo Posts: 12,225
    Pacomc79 wrote:
    no, actually that's the Easter Beagle. The Great Pumpkin comes out on October 31st and flys around the world bringing toys to all the good girls and boys.

    The early Catholic Church was competing for "souls" so to speak so they used the Pagan holidays and adapted some of thier rituals to fit church teaching.

    It's just an observance after all.

    It's kind of fitting really as this is all about the life cycle. Death and Rebirth. It's appropriate it would happen in the spring.

    That, and it works out really well for the Easter Portion of Handel's Messiah. Spring Growth and outstanding baroque music.
    ...
    I guess that explains it... because if THAT doesn't sound like a Pagan time table formula... I don't know what does. It also explains the Easter Bunny and Easter Eggs. Both appear to be Neolithic fertility symbols... rabbits, eggs. And the Spring celebration... I can see ancient man hoping for a fertile land for their upcoming crop... and basically, survived the long cruel winters of Central Europe.
    ...
    And I bet the Peeps we see on the store shelves today.. were actually produced in Neolithic times.
    Allen Fieldhouse, home of the 2008 NCAA men's Basketball Champions! Go Jayhawks!
    Hail, Hail!!!
  • Eliot RosewaterEliot Rosewater Posts: 2,659
    Snake wrote:
    IM REALLY OFFENDED BY THIS THREAD!!!!!









    not really :D its a good question. I kind still dont understand it. But I guess its because thats the day Jesus died for our sins and stuff. But yea Im sure it wasnt to "good" at the time.
    Of course it was good. As Cross says - it's what made him. He would have been nothing without the alleged crucifixion.
  • CosmoCosmo Posts: 12,225
    Eliot Rosewater wrote:
    Of course it was good. As Cross says - it's what made him. He would have been nothing without the alleged crucifixion.
    ...
    And maybe... it's good for us. I mean, Jesus died for our sins, right? That means we can get away with all kinds of the shitty stuff we do to each other, say to each other and believe in because all is forgiven in the end.
    I mean, it got Hitler off the hook, didn't it?
    Allen Fieldhouse, home of the 2008 NCAA men's Basketball Champions! Go Jayhawks!
    Hail, Hail!!!
  • jeffbrjeffbr Seattle Posts: 7,177
    Cosmo wrote:
    And I bet the Peeps we see on the store shelves today.. were actually produced in Neolithic times.

    Yup, their half-life is measured in millenia.
    "I'll use the magic word - let's just shut the fuck up, please." EV, 04/13/08
  • Jack_C_GregoryJack_C_Gregory Posts: 540
    I think it has to due with the people who put him to death. I think the idea behind it was, it's a good thing he's being punished, hence good friday. Well, that's what they told us in grade school.
  • SnakeSnake Posts: 2,605
    Now I can see this getting bad :D

    im out

    Peace and Love people!
    Pirates had democracy too.

    "Its a secret to everybody."
  • mca47mca47 Posts: 13,298
    I think holidays need to be renamed for what they are.

    Good Friday = Kinda crappy Friday
    Christmas = Pretend you like your family, materialistic present day.
    Halloween = Type 2 diabetes day.
    Valentines = Guaranteed sex day.
    Easter = Dead people come alive with chocolate day.
    St. Patrick's day = Green vomit day.
  • Flannel ShirtFlannel Shirt Posts: 1,021
    I agree....
    Today is the day a relegions savior, the son of God, was tortured and then murdered. Kinda strange to call it "Good Friday".

    Horribly Terrible Most Awful Friday seems more fitting.
    All that's sacred, comes from youth....dedications, naive and true.
  • CosmoCosmo Posts: 12,225
    Flannel Shirt wrote:
    I agree....
    Today is the day a relegions savior, the son of God, was tortured and then murdered. Kinda strange to call it "Good Friday".

    Horribly Terrible Most Awful Friday seems more fitting.
    ...
    Well, if you look at it from the 'Better Him than me', perspective... it's good.
    But, I believe the greater good in all of this is that... well, maybe we should take the teachings of Jesus and live our lives by them. Not as some sort of condition in return for a reward... but, just because. To me... that whole 'Believe in Me and I will take on all of your sins' thing... well, it just don't seem fair. I mean, why should a guy like Hitler get go to Heaven for believing in Jesus... and the 6 million Jews that he is responsible for go to Hell for not believing? Seems like if Jesus hasa say in the matter... well, he'd give those Jews a break.
    I don't know. I guess that's why I don't go to church anymore. But, that won't stop me from wishing everyone a Happy Easter.
    Allen Fieldhouse, home of the 2008 NCAA men's Basketball Champions! Go Jayhawks!
    Hail, Hail!!!
  • idratherbeidratherbe Posts: 367
    Cosmo wrote:
    ...
    ...
    And I bet the Peeps we see on the store shelves today.. were actually produced in Neolithic times.

    Post of the day! :D Peeps & Twinkies... gotta love 'em I guess.

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  • Eliot RosewaterEliot Rosewater Posts: 2,659
    Cosmo wrote:
    I found out how they figure out when Easter is:
    The First Sunday.. after the First Full Moon... after the Spring Equinox.
    ...
    Does this mean that Jesus rose from the dead on the First Sunday... after The First Full Moon... after the Spring Equinox of 31 A.D?
    if that's the case... why not have Easter on that date?
    Because not only the people who wrote the bible are idiots, but also the people who took it from there..
  • Eliot RosewaterEliot Rosewater Posts: 2,659
    Cosmo wrote:
    ...
    Well, if you look at it from the 'Better Him than me', perspective... it's good.
    But, I believe the greater good in all of this is that... well, maybe we should take the teachings of Jesus and live our lives by them. Not as some sort of condition in return for a reward... but, just because. To me... that whole 'Believe in Me and I will take on all of your sins' thing... well, it just don't seem fair. I mean, why should a guy like Hitler get go to Heaven for believing in Jesus... and the 6 million Jews that he is responsible for go to Hell for not believing? Seems like if Jesus hasa say in the matter... well, he'd give those Jews a break.
    I don't know. I guess that's why I don't go to church anymore. But, that won't stop me from wishing everyone a Happy Easter.
    As Vonnegut said many times - "If what Jesus taught was good, what difference does it make whether or not he was a God?"

    Who could argue with that? I'm certainly not a Christian but if we need guidelines on how to live a good life and how to treat others, Jesus might still be the answer.
  • slightofjeffslightofjeff Posts: 7,762
    WeaponX655321 wrote:
    I think it has to due with the people who put him to death. I think the idea behind it was, it's a good thing he's being punished, hence good friday. Well, that's what they told us in grade school.

    what kind of psychotic fucking grade school did you go to?
    everybody wants the most they can possibly get
    for the least they could possibly do
  • slightofjeffslightofjeff Posts: 7,762
    Eliot Rosewater wrote:
    As Vonnegut said many times - "If what Jesus taught was good, what difference does it make whether or not he was a God?"

    Because he claimed to be God. And if he wasn't, that makes him crazy. Which kind of nullifies all the other stuff.

    There's a bum on the corner who sells newspapers and claims to be God. I wouldn't take any moral guidance from him, either.
    everybody wants the most they can possibly get
    for the least they could possibly do
  • Brain of J.LoBrain of J.Lo Posts: 3,259
    mca47 wrote:
    Shouldn't relgious types call it "Kind of a crappy" Friday or something similar?

    lol :D
  • slightofjeffslightofjeff Posts: 7,762
    Flannel Shirt wrote:
    I agree....
    Today is the day a relegions savior, the son of God, was tortured and then murdered. Kinda strange to call it "Good Friday".

    Horribly Terrible Most Awful Friday seems more fitting.

    but if none of that happened ... there would be no Christian religion ... see how that works?

    The "good" was added in retrospect.

    Sort of like how your favorite sports team endures a god-awful season, but in doing so earns the No.1 draft pick in next year's draft ... and he turns out to be a once-in-a-generation type player ... and he leads your team to umpteen titles. But you never would have had him had you not sucked balls that one year, which was bad at the time, but now turned out to be good for the franchise.

    yeah, sort of like that.
    everybody wants the most they can possibly get
    for the least they could possibly do
  • South of SeattleSouth of Seattle West Seattle Posts: 10,724
    slightofjeff wrote:
    but if none of that happened ... there would be no Christian religion ... see how that works?

    The "good" was added in retrospect.

    Sort of like how your favorite sports team endures a god-awful season, but in doing so earns the No.1 draft pick in next year's draft ... and he turns out to be a once-in-a-generation type player ... and he leads your team to umpteen titles. But you never would have had him had you not sucked balls that one year, which was bad at the time, but now turned out to be good for the franchise.

    yeah, sort of like that.

    Happy Easter Greg Oden & Brandon Roy! ;)
    NERDS!
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