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PJ_LukinPJ_Lukin Posts: 2,055
edited December 2007 in A Moving Train
Tim Russert is giving Ron Paul a pretty good grilling right now. He is calling him on everything from earmarks, to term limits, to funding government with his elimination of income tax, 9/11 and imigration statements.

This is the first time I have seen anyone really put a stiff challenge to his historical record and statements.

Lot's of baggage there.
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  • theroachmantheroachman Posts: 362
    Well when Tim is not under pressure from his corporate overlords he really can be a good if not great reporter.
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  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 30,238
    they should set up a cage match with all the candidates and let them all fight eachother winner takes all ...:D
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  • DriftingByTheStormDriftingByTheStorm Posts: 8,684
    PJ_Lukin wrote:
    Lot's of baggage there.

    Are you shitting me !?!

    Did you SEE the MTP with Romney or Giuliani?

    Paul came of like a fucking saint in comparison !?!

    ?!?!!???!
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  • bootlegger10bootlegger10 Posts: 16,054
    I enjoyed the interview. Ron Paul is now my second choice, behind McCain. I like Ron Paul's ideas, but they are risky.
  • DriftingByTheStormDriftingByTheStorm Posts: 8,684
    bootlegger10 wrote:
    I enjoyed the interview. Ron Paul is now my second choice, behind McCain. I like Ron Paul's ideas, but they are risky.

    Liberty is Risky.

    Who ever got SHIT done playing it safe?

    Avoiding risk is a sure fire way to find yourself in the most precarious of situations imaginable.

    :D
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  • JwmccJwmcc Posts: 451
    Dr.Paul went on Meet the Press and said that the U.S. ought to destroy the income tax, and cut off all funding to Israel. Those two ideas will guarentee that he won't win any higher elected office.
    Jw
  • DriftingByTheStormDriftingByTheStorm Posts: 8,684
    Jwmcc wrote:
    Dr.Paul went on Meet the Press and said that the U.S. ought to destroy the income tax, and cut off all funding to Israel. Those two ideas will guarentee that he won't win any higher elected office.
    Jw

    Wow.
    You think most americans LIKE the income tax?
    If that is true, then we really are fucked.'

    Who would have thought, the nation that was CREATED BECAUSE of tax disagreements, became the worlds biggest lover of taxes?

    As far as aid to israel, he did a much better job explaining that on Glenn Beck.

    he wants to cut off funding to EVERYONE, not just israel.

    And it is TRUE that funding israel creates the same situation internationaly as it does with welfare here at home.

    Israel is dependent upon us, and is HELD BACK by us.

    If they could do whatever they so wanted, every arab in the region would be scared shitless. Do you have any realization HOW MANY NUKES israel has !??!
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  • RolandTD20KdrummerRolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
    Tim: uhh you cut the taxes and where's the money coming from?

    Ron: Tim hundreds of billions are being wasted overseas...actually trillions. We would be saving that money.

    Tim: uhh yeah but where is the money coming from?

    Ron...Yes, a trillion a year Tim.

    Tim: so yeah but where is the money coming from?

    Ron: Trillions Tim...with a T as in trillions.

    Tim: uhm the but yeah the money Ron...then money...where?


    Apparently Tim didn't sleep at a Holiday in last night

    :D
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  • RolandTD20KdrummerRolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
    Deek chimes in with his version of the "warm and fuzzy" candidate Christmas commercials....."warm and fuzzy" Christmas commercial candidates awwww ....we all support murder and torture of little children, and we lie to you all the time to the contrary, just so you believe it, and to our surprise...most of you actually do!! Have a warm ad fuzzy Merry Christmas...

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WhMXNV8JQ_w


    :D
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  • JP2026766JP2026766 Posts: 1,125
    Honestly, I think Paul held himself well in that interview. He makes alot of very good points. He has great theories, and I like him alot. If he could implement it and get things to work is a different story. But he's probably my favorite candidate right now because he's the only one pushing for smaller government.

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  • RolandTD20KdrummerRolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
    You're probably going to want to watch this:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IQxB5VKWlfg
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

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  • Pacomc79Pacomc79 Posts: 9,404
    I find it kind of hilarious that reporters find no need to actually investigate the Income tax as if that is some great way to fund a government.

    The income tax was the model for the same style of ripoff that is medical withholding which has led to the current ridiculous health insurance crisis and the ballooning costs of medical care.

    Some how governments (including the one in the US) were run and run well for years without income tax....God Forbid anyone come up with a better system right???


    Can Opened... worms everywhere... some people just have a really really difficult time opening the box and thinking outside of it.
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  • DriftingByTheStormDriftingByTheStorm Posts: 8,684
    Pacomc79 wrote:
    I find it kind of hilarious that reporters find no need to actually investigate the Income tax as if that is some great way to fund a government.

    The income tax was the model for the same style of ripoff that is medical withholding which has led to the current ridiculous health insurance crisis and the ballooning costs of medical care.

    Some how governments (including the one in the US) were run and run well for years without income tax....God Forbid anyone come up with a better system right???


    Can Opened... worms everywhere... some people just have a really really difficult time opening the box and thinking outside of it.


    Pac, I HEAR you, and god knows i am with you.

    HOWEVER,
    i think its more than just "reporters" who have problems with this.

    I've noticed, particularly from all the "discussions" we've had on this board, that PEOPLE in GENERAL have a EXTREMELY difficult time overcoming the INERTIA of "societal norms".

    What do i mean?
    Well ... if ANYTHING happens in history ... be it the Federal Reserve being created 100 years ago, or the income tax shortly there after, or the great gold seizure a decade later, or going off the gold standard a half century after the seizure itself ... whenever ANY of that happens ...

    regardless of the INTENT behind such event ... and let me say that i think ALL of those things were done with very dubious motivation aimed at the benefit of the monied elite ...

    Whenever those type of monumental shifts in "american values" occurs ... fundamental changes in the operation of our nation ... WITHIN A DECADE OR TWO, PEOPLE SEEM TO FORGET WHAT LIFE WAS LIKE BEFORE THEY OCCURED.

    Beyond that, HERE IS THE RINGER:
    Not only do they forget what occured, and how it fundamentaly altered the American reality, THEY BEGIN TO DEFEND THE CURRENT STATUS QUO AS "NORMAL" and AS "JUST", "NECESSARY", and "CORRECT".

    I have seen NUMEROUS people on this board argue IN FAVOR of Income Tax, hurl insults at any one who believes in a Gold Standard -- calling them naive fools -- and mock anyone who thinks the Federal Reserve is some sort of "conspiracy" -- calling them "tinfoil hat wearers".

    Unfortunately, this is "normal" human behavior. People fall in to the trap that society has set for them. THAT part is NOT malicious intent, necessarily. It is just the way the world is.

    People inherently feel that since that IS the way it IS, then therefore that IS the way it WAS, and thus IS the way it SHOULD BE.

    For NO reason other than that is the way it CURRENTLY IS.
    There IS NO rationale beyond that.

    People just want to believe that there is no way "evil" forces could have shaped the current reality so drasticaly, and don't want to concede that the current status quo is more than likely the culmination of decades of manipulation by the powerful for their own benefit at the detriment of the common folk. Thus, they will inadvertently end up defending the "evil doers". lol.

    :( :( :(
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