Domestic partner benefits

PJ_LukinPJ_Lukin Posts: 2,050
edited January 2007 in A Moving Train
As some may recall, I am an elected county legislator where I live. I am a Democrat and we just took over our Legislature this year from a 25 year Republican reign. We voted on Wednesday night to grant Domestic Partner health care benefits. It is one of the proudest moments of my 1 year career.
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  • qtegirlqtegirl Posts: 321
    Congratulations. I support domestic partner legislation because, as long as certain people are not allowed to get married, there is no reason why they shouldn't enjoy the same privilages that we enjoy.

    Thank you for making a difference.
  • know1know1 Posts: 6,794
    What is the definition of a domestic partner that you use? What benefits do they get? Is this just for county employees, or is this some sort of mandate for businesses in the county?
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  • PJ_LukinPJ_Lukin Posts: 2,050
    know1 wrote:
    What is the definition of a domestic partner that you use? What benefits do they get? Is this just for county employees, or is this some sort of mandate for businesses in the county?

    County Employees only. We are currently using the definiton of same sex partners. The unions are in negotiations to include all domestic partners, hetero or homosexual. I am advocating for that so I hope it makes it to a vote.

    Ultimately, we want universal health care. We have already passed a memorializing resolution to our state and federal reps telling them we support any universal healthcare initiative.
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  • know1know1 Posts: 6,794
    PJ_Lukin wrote:
    County Employees only. We are currently using the definiton of same sex partners. The unions are in negotiations to include all domestic partners, hetero or homosexual. I am advocating for that so I hope it makes it to a vote.

    Ultimately, we want universal health care. We have already passed a memorializing resolution to our state and federal reps telling them we support any universal healthcare initiative.

    So do the "domestic partners" have to live together? Could someone who was in truth just a roommate qualify? Is someone limited to just one domestic partner?
    The only people we should try to get even with...
    ...are those who've helped us.

    Right 'round the corner could be bigger than ourselves.
  • PJ_LukinPJ_Lukin Posts: 2,050
    know1 wrote:
    So do the "domestic partners" have to live together? Could someone who was in truth just a roommate qualify? Is someone limited to just one domestic partner?
    One partner and the county requires 4 items of proof partnership and residence. Like joint bank statements, voting enrollment, driving license,Life insurance beneficiearies, wills... for at least 1 year.
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  • Dylan StoneDylan Stone Posts: 1,145
    PJ_Lukin wrote:
    One partner and the county requires 4 items of proof partnership and residence. Like joint bank statements, voting enrollment, driving license,Life insurance beneficiearies, wills... for at least 1 year.

    You go, PJ Lukin. That is awesome. Small steps are really BIG ones. Can I ask what county this is? Is it Dutchess or Ulster by any chance? Just curious. :)

    I wish I was an elected county legislator. Guess you have to run before you can be elected and hold office though. Good Job, PJ Lukin. Glad to hear this.
  • cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 16,447
    PJ_Lukin wrote:
    County Employees only. We are currently using the definiton of same sex partners. The unions are in negotiations to include all domestic partners, hetero or homosexual. I am advocating for that so I hope it makes it to a vote.

    Ultimately, we want universal health care. We have already passed a memorializing resolution to our state and federal reps telling them we support any universal healthcare initiative.


    Granting this to only hmosexual domestic partners is discriminatory...

    of course so is not allowing gay marriage. ;)
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  • evil american corporations like General Motors and Ford offer the same thing.
  • PJ_LukinPJ_Lukin Posts: 2,050
    LovetheJam wrote:
    You go, PJ Lukin. That is awesome. Small steps are really BIG ones. Can I ask what county this is? Is it Dutchess or Ulster by any chance? Just curious. :)

    I wish I was an elected county legislator. Guess you have to run before you can be elected and hold office though. Good Job, PJ Lukin. Glad to hear this.

    Ulster.....
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  • PJ_LukinPJ_Lukin Posts: 2,050
    Granting this to only hmosexual domestic partners is discriminatory...

    of course so is not allowing gay marriage. ;)
    I agree Cincy! That is why we are working on it for all domestic partners.
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  • Dylan StoneDylan Stone Posts: 1,145
    PJ_Lukin wrote:
    I agree Cincy! That is why we are working on it for all domestic partners.

    Cool. My BF and I have a son together...but I personally have ZERO interest in marriage... all domestic partners is the way to go...

    The best way to walk a long journey is one step at a time.


    I knew you were going to say Ulster. I saw that picture of you with the list and wine bottle at Letterman. Coincidence? ;)
  • normnorm Posts: 31,146
    Good for you, PJ_lukin. It's a good start.
  • floyd1975floyd1975 Posts: 1,350
    I like the idea of being able to buy into a group health insurance with any group of people. It could be a neighborhood thing if people so chose. I believe there was a bill in the previous Congress regarding this.
  • PJ_LukinPJ_Lukin Posts: 2,050
    zstillings wrote:
    I like the idea of being able to buy into a group health insurance with any group of people. It could be a neighborhood thing if people so chose. I believe there was a bill in the previous Congress regarding this.
    I am also on the committee that oversees the County Arts Council. They have arranged for anyone to join the council and get a very decent group rate for health insurance. The fee for the arts coucil membership is very low, like $25. It is really great being able to help do this kind of stuff. It may sound lame or corny, but that is why I ran for office in the first place.
    ~!~ Peace ~!~ Love ~!~ Pearl Jam ~!~
  • floyd1975floyd1975 Posts: 1,350
    PJ_Lukin wrote:
    I am also on the committee that oversees the County Arts Council. They have arranged for anyone to join the council and get a very decent group rate for health insurance. The fee for the arts coucil membership is very low, like $25. It is really great being able to help do this kind of stuff. It may sound lame or corny, but that is why I ran for office in the first place.

    That sounds like a great plan. I'm not as into the employer coverage as I am into the choice of a group rate coverage.

    I don't think that sounds corny. It sounds like you are truly enjoying what you are doing.
  • know1know1 Posts: 6,794
    zstillings wrote:
    I like the idea of being able to buy into a group health insurance with any group of people. It could be a neighborhood thing if people so chose. I believe there was a bill in the previous Congress regarding this.

    I like the idea of making it illegal for businesses to provide health insurance to employees. I think the only viable solution to the rising costs of healthcare and health insurance is to make it where people have to purchase it on their own.
    The only people we should try to get even with...
    ...are those who've helped us.

    Right 'round the corner could be bigger than ourselves.
  • normnorm Posts: 31,146
    know1 wrote:
    I like the idea of making it illegal for businesses to provide health insurance to employees. I think the only viable solution to the rising costs of healthcare and health insurance is to make it where people have to purchase it on their own.

    Explain this please.
  • know1know1 Posts: 6,794
    cutback wrote:
    Explain this please.


    Well, I didn't really express it the way I want, but I really believe that Health Insurance is the biggest problem with high healthcare and insurance costs. It's spiraled out of control because nobody has to actually directly pay for healthcare anymore. Instead, the insurance companies set the costs and set the rates for insurance.

    I truly believe that if people were to just pay directly for most healthcare needs and only have a sort of health insurance that only covers catastrophic type events, that healthcare costs and insurance costs would come way down.
    The only people we should try to get even with...
    ...are those who've helped us.

    Right 'round the corner could be bigger than ourselves.
  • normnorm Posts: 31,146
    know1 wrote:
    Well, I didn't really express it the way I want, but I really believe that Health Insurance is the biggest problem with high healthcare and insurance costs. It's spiraled out of control because nobody has to actually directly pay for health care anymore. Instead, the insurance companies set the costs and set the rates for insurance.

    I truly believe that if people were to just pay directly for most health care needs and only have a sort of health insurance that only covers catastrophic type events, that health care costs and insurance costs would come way down.

    That's what I thought you meant. And to a certain degree I agree. But before would do anything we need to regulate (and I hate to say that) the pharmaceutical and medical industry and eliminate their lobbyists. Until those companies stop charging outrageous dollars for their medicines etc the average citizen will not be able to pay for their medical expenses. I am not in favor of government run health care but something needs to be done. And soon.
  • know1know1 Posts: 6,794
    cutback wrote:
    That's what I thought you meant. And to a certain degree I agree. But before would do anything we need to regulate (and I hate to say that) the pharmaceutical and medical industry and eliminate their lobbyists. Until those companies stop charging outrageous dollars for their medicines etc the average citizen will not be able to pay for their medical expenses. I am not in favor of government run health care but something needs to be done. And soon.

    It's in the health insurance companies' best interest to ensure that costs are as high as possible so that it makes insurance necessary. I hate health insurance with a passion.

    In my opinion, if nobody could afford to pay for the drugs the pharmaceutical companies are selling, their prices would have to come down. I don't think their lobbyists are much of the problem.
    The only people we should try to get even with...
    ...are those who've helped us.

    Right 'round the corner could be bigger than ourselves.
  • PJ_Lukin wrote:
    As some may recall, I am an elected county legislator where I live. I am a Democrat and we just took over our Legislature this year from a 25 year Republican reign. We voted on Wednesday night to grant Domestic Partner health care benefits. It is one of the proudest moments of my 1 year career.

    *claps*

    Congratulations! I'm proud of you too! :D
    ~*~Me and Hippiemom dranketh the red wine in Cleveland 2003~*~

    First PJ Show: March 20, 1994 | Ann Arbor | Crisler Arena
  • normnorm Posts: 31,146
    know1 wrote:
    I don't think their lobbyists are much of the problem.

    Oh yes they are. We won't have reform until Congress stops sucking at the pharm's tit.
  • 1970RR1970RR Posts: 281
    know1 wrote:
    Well, I didn't really express it the way I want, but I really believe that Health Insurance is the biggest problem with high healthcare and insurance costs. It's spiraled out of control because nobody has to actually directly pay for healthcare anymore. Instead, the insurance companies set the costs and set the rates for insurance.

    I truly believe that if people were to just pay directly for most healthcare needs and only have a sort of health insurance that only covers catastrophic type events, that healthcare costs and insurance costs would come way down.
    I agree that this is a good way to go. I believe the "health savings accounts" are set up to work this way, but I think you would need more universal participation to see any kind of real change to the system.
  • know1know1 Posts: 6,794
    1970RR wrote:
    I agree that this is a good way to go. I believe the "health savings accounts" are set up to work this way, but I think you would need more universal participation to see any kind of real change to the system.

    Agreed!
    The only people we should try to get even with...
    ...are those who've helped us.

    Right 'round the corner could be bigger than ourselves.
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