Ron Paul Warning...

searchlightsoul

Sludge Factory wrote:

Great, good to know that something that should be an American problem and dealt with in America is now going to be dealt with outside interests. It doesn't surprise me though.

Its everyones problem buddy.

Sludge Factory

searchlightsoul wrote:

Still don't see why the loss of a single superpower in the world (as I believe has been happening in the last 10 years to the US) is a bad thing.

It isn't the loss of the "single worlds superpower" that many are concerned with. It's the loss of sovereignty.

searchlightsoul wrote:

Its everyones problem buddy.

Look, you can say that all you want, and I don't necessarily disagree; however, if you are fine with other countries being able to decide American policy regarding its fiscal and monetary policy, so be it. Just realize that I will not ever agree with something like that. The dollar is an American currency. Yes I know other countries rely on it because its become the currency of the world. That doesn't matter, those countries allowed themselves to get in that position of tying themselves to our currency. Just because they allowed that doesn't mean we are necessarily responsible for their well being if our dollar tanks and it certainly doesn't mean we should let them influence our decisions regarding our country's monetary policy. We've been doing that since 1912 and look where that's getting us. :rolleyes:

RolandTD20Kdrummer

Crazy Breed wrote:

you're right about humans being stupid...most of you believe the governments bullshit version of 9-11

Ahahahahaaaa. The truth hurts.

Nevermind

Soulfire42 wrote:

Cooper is iffy for several reasons. For one, listen to his stuff about aliens. Later on, he reneges on pretty much all of it himself. So if you listen and believe his stuff about aliens, just realize that it later gets mostly disowned by none other than himself. You can find that willingness to change opinion admirable or view it with more cynicism... that's a matter of opinion. The fellow is pretty paranoid on way too many subjects. Now, he did get killed in the end in a suspicious manner... but that alone doesn't validate all of his far out claims.

He said later on that he believed he was being fed disinfo by his military sources. I dont really give a shit. His knowledge on secret societies are what interest me.

Urban Hiker

My question: Will this make it easier for an American to move to the Netherlands?

prytoj

Soulfire42 wrote:

The main points that I'm seeing from Ron Paul's Alex Jones interview follow:

Obama is a corporate stooge
Favorable coverage from media = Obama preselected by corporations
New monetary system = loss of sovereignty
World government on the horizon
All wealth being transferred to world corporations
Bush was used to fool right wing to accept world government
Obama being rolled out to fool left wing into accepting world government
Control world money, military and resources = world government
World government is too big to be effective

There's a lot of huge leaps with little or no evidence provided by either Ron Paul or Alex Jones in all of this. World government is too big and too full of bureaucracy to be effective... yeah, I can believe that. However, I also think world government might be the only thing to bring unity to a world fractured by nationalism... where people don't care much about one another unless they share the same imaginary line forming a border on a map. Our indifference toward places like Africa is often alarming. I'm not going to make any leap and claim I'm for world government or anything like that. But this all starts with an assumption that it is bad, which hasn't really been illustrated.

Sharing a currency does not automatically equate to loss of sovereignty as the EU has demonstrated. It has benefits and detriments unto its own. Barack receiving favorable coverage does not equate to preselection for the presidency. That's a stretch and if it were true, why would any reporting about his reverend or Ayer's have surfaced if he was preselected for only favorable coverage? Do we then need to assume "They" wanted us to not grow suspcious and such? Do you see how many things you have to keep postulating to keep this theory intact and what a boogie man "They" become? What do "They" stand to gain? Why are "They" separate from us and who exactly are "They?"

World government is unConstitutional.
World currency is unConstitutional.

it is a further centralizing of power, it represents domination, not cohesion. It's inevitable that power structures exist, no matter how much "unity" the utopians might desire. The question is, would we like to have more influence on the power structures (a more localized government), or less?

And review WTO, NAFTA & SPP, the IMF and WHO for direct evidence that the attempt to move to a new world order is on. They don't put it in our face, but they don't really try to hide it either.

Direct, official, documentary evidence.

I've heard of a movement in Europe to abolish the EU, and I hope what I've heard on that is true.

ACCBootlegGoddess

Sludge Factory wrote:

Great, good to know that something that should be an American problem and dealt with in America is now going to be dealt with outside interests. It doesn't surprise me though.

Holy Xenophobic much??? Spoken like someone who truly has NO CLUE how the stock market and your economy works!!
Your stocks are not traded soley by Americans. Products made in America are not only sold IN America!!...so to FIX the crisis he NEEDS to mend some fences OUTSIDE your borders!
Don't let your fear close your mind to what could potentially be a GOOD thing for your country.

prytoj

The term xenophobe is being thrown around by the left like you know what it means. Why don't you just say racist or bigot, that way we can see how moronic the sentiment is?

No one here is afraid of people who are different. just stop already, you look foolish.

LikeAnOpeningBandForTheSun

i'm not worried. even if all the schemes are true, they wont work.

unless of course it turns out to be a good idea.

Sludge Factory

ACCBootlegGoddess wrote:

Holy Xenophobic much??? Spoken like someone who truly has NO CLUE how the stock market and your economy works!!
Your stocks are not traded soley by Americans. Products made in America are not only sold IN America!!...so to FIX the crisis he NEEDS to mend some fences OUTSIDE your borders!
Don't let your fear close your mind to what could potentially be a GOOD thing for your country.

Holy jumping to conclusions much??? Spoken like someone who assumes I don't know what the stock market is or how my economy works when I have had formal schooling in it.

Mending fences outside our borders and taking other countries' advice on what we should do with our monetary system are two completely different things.

yahamita

prytoj wrote:

World government is unConstitutional.
World currency is unConstitutional.

it is a further centralizing of power, it represents domination, not cohesion. It's inevitable that power structures exist, no matter how much "unity" the utopians might desire. The question is, would we like to have more influence on the power structures (a more localized government), or less?

And review WTO, NAFTA & SPP, the IMF and WHO for direct evidence that the attempt to move to a new world order is on. They don't put it in our face, but they don't really try to hide it either.

Direct, official, documentary evidence.

I've heard of a movement in Europe to abolish the EU, and I hope what I've heard on that is true.

The EU will never disappear. Things are falling right into place for the NWO..