U will pay for illegal downloads soon through your IP address??

yahamitayahamita Posts: 1,514
edited May 2008 in A Moving Train
Warner Music Group’s Corporate Socialism

Kurt Nimmo
Infowars
March 31, 2008

Let me see if I got this right. The Warner Music Group wants you pay for the kid down the street who downloads illegal MP3s. You will have no choice. You will be hit with a “surcharge” on your monthly ISP bill and, by the way, there will be no opt-in or out option. Get used to it because criminal gangs in expensive suits run the country. Caroline McCarthy writes for CNet News:

Hotels tack extra charges onto your bill when you raid the minibar–or if they’re really mean, when you steal towels. If a new Warner Music Group executive gets his way, your Internet service provider will be billing you each month for music downloads.

Jim Griffin, Warner’s latest top-shelf hire and the former head of Geffen Music, told Portfolio.com the details of a radical new strategy to deal with the record industry’s 21st-century crisis. According to Griffin’s plan, to which he said Warner Music is “totally committed,” a monthly fee added to an Internet service bill–say, five bucks–could give consumers unlimited access to music that they could download, copy, and share.




He estimated that this could provide as much $20 billion per year to reimburse artists and copyright holders.

Griffin did not make it clear whether this would be an opt-in service, or whether customers of an Internet service provider would ideally all be charged even if they don’t plan to download music. But, he said, he hopes that it would be much bigger than Warner, with the project eventually spun into its own company.

You know when corporate honchos say they are totally committed,” they plan to “lobby” the government, that is to say spin the turnstile at the corporate whorehouse on the Potomac and throw around a load of money to get their way.

In addition to run of the mill corporate greed, the Warner Music Group wants to make the public pay for the fact CD sales are on the rocks. The so-called music industry tells us they are losing money because of mischievous downloaders and bit torrent criminals. In fact, the music industry is losing money because they no longer produce music people want to buy or less people want to buy. It also does not help that a new CD costs around twenty bucks, a lot of money to shell out for most people.

Music corporations are part and parcel of the monopoly mindset and the best way to hijack your hard-earned money is to pass another law — sort of like the mandatory auto insurance laws — that codifies and legalizes theft.

Of course, you don’t have to have an ISP and an internet connection, same as you don’t need a car.
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  • wow.
    the words
    "BULL"
    and
    "SHIT"

    come to mind.

    Why don't they tag on a surcharge to help the families of victims of the sex slave trade\child pornography\ebay fraud\phishing\email scams etc etc etc ... since all that takes place on the internet too.

    this is horse shit and a half.

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  • FinsburyParkCarrotsFinsburyParkCarrots Seattle, WA Posts: 12,223
    In the words of Daffy Duck, "Warnerrrrr Bruzzzzzthurrrs, Thizzzthhh izzzthhh dizzzthhhpicable."
  • So is this their way of saying they've more or less given up, and can't realistically do fuck all to stop anyone from downloading?

    Good luck with this cockamamie plan...
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    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
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  • WMAWMA Posts: 175
    The article seems to be a little off, though there still seem to be potential issues with the plan.
    "Griffin says that in just the few weeks since Warner began working on this plan, the company has been approached by internet service providers 'who want to discharge their risk.' Eventually, advertising could subsidize the entire system, so that users who don't want to receive ads could pay the fee, and those who don't mind advertising wouldn't pay a dime. 'I.S.P.'s want to distinguish themselves with marketing," Griffin says. "You can only imagine that an I.S.P. that marketed a 'fair trade' network connection would see a marketing advantage.'"

    The plusses for the consumer would be being able to download pretty much any music from anywhere legally for a small flat fee, though I could see it hurting independent artists trying to sell their music.

    How would they know how much to pay each artist anyway? How would PJ get a cut if I grabbed their album from a friend?

    I'd definately join an Itunes like service for a small flat fee, so long as they tracked the sales of each artist and they were compensated fairly by the number of DLs.
  • keeponrockinkeeponrockin Posts: 7,446
    This hurts people like me, who actually still buy albums!
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  • fanch75fanch75 Posts: 3,734
    White people sure love their illegal downloads! The man knows this, so now they will have to pay!

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    March 30, 2008 by clander

    White people have always been renowned for having ridiculously large music collections. So when file sharing gave white people a chance to acquire all the music they ever wanted, it felt as though it was an earned right and not a privilege.

    When (not if) you see a white male with a full iPod, ask him if all of his music is legal. If he does not immediately launch into a diatribe about his right to pirate music, you might have to nudge him a bit by saying “do you think that’s right?” The response will be immediate and uniform.

    He will likely rattle off statistics about how most musicians don’t make any money from albums, it all comes from touring and merchandise. So by attending shows, he is able to support the musicians while simultaneously striking a blow against multinational corporations. He will proceed to walk you through the process of how record labels are set up to reward the corporation and fundamentally rob the artist of their rights, royalties and creativity. Prepare to hear the name Steve Albini a lot.

    Advanced white people will also talk about how their constant downloading of music makes them an expert who can properly recommend bands to friends and co-workers, thus increasing revenues and exposure. So in fact, their “illegal” activities are the new lifeblood of the industry.

    When they have finished talking, you must choose your next words wisely. It is considered rude to point out the simple fact that they are still getting music for free. Instead you should say: “Wow, I never thought of it like that. You know a lot about the music industry. What bands are you listening to right now? Who is good?”

    This sentence serves two functions: it helps to reassure the white person that they are your local “music expert,” something they prize. Also, it lets them feel as though they have convinced you that their activities are part of a greater social cause and not simple piracy.

    If you bring up this issue with white person who says “nah bro, I don’t give a shit, Dave Matthews has enough money as it is.” You are likely dealing with wrong kind of white person.

    In the even more rare situation where someone says “it’s all paid for, and it’s all transferred from vinyl.” You have found an expert level white person and must treat the situation carefully.

    Because of the availability of music online, a very strict social hierarchy has been created within white culture whereby someone with a large MP3 collection is considered “normal,” a large CD collection is considered to be “better,” and a person with a large vinyl collection is recognized as “elite.”

    These elite white people abhor the fact that music piracy has made their B-sides, live performances, and bootlegs available to the masses. Their entire life’s work has been stripped of its rarity in terms of both object and sound on the record. The best thing you can say to them is: “vinyl still sounds better.”

    However, it is recommended that you do not let this conversation drag much longer. If you let them continue talking to you they are likely to spend hours talking to you about bands you’ve never heard of and providing you with a weekly mix CD of rarities that you do not want.
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  • Pacomc79Pacomc79 Posts: 9,404
    that's freaking awesome fanch.... "so it's stealing right?"... what no man I'm just fighting the man man.

    oh, but vinyl does sound better, I love soundboard recordings, cassette tapes generally sound like ass no matter what taper got the recording from what row and most amateur recordings sound like crap.

    THat being said, I had a prodigous collection on the old college computer but my vinyl collection is rather small and it's kind of sad to have such a small collection.

    The reality of this though is that the music industry is just going to have to change. Sharing is easier. This same argument happened when VCR's and cassette tapes hit the market and then CD recordables. The prices of new CD's are generally a more reasonable 10 bucks now where as when I was 18 they were closer to 20. It's tougher to sell an album of crap now off of one pop single but I view that as a good thing.
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  • godpt3godpt3 Posts: 1,020
    127.0.0.1



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  • yokeyoke Posts: 1,440
    Its true, I don't need my own internet. I can just use my neighbors. Hell I have 9 very strong signals coming into my house and none are secure. My network is the only one that is secure.
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  • yahamitayahamita Posts: 1,514
    This hurts people like me, who actually still buy albums!
    Me too!!! Maybe the cost of albums will drop...! Anyone have an extra VS???
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  • HushBullHushBull Posts: 996
    Well thank god for free legal downloads from bands such as Pearl Jam.

    I'm gonna go back to pirating now.
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  • ZanneZanne Posts: 899
    And the artists get what?
    Just me
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