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SpartanacusSpartanacus Posts: 830
edited July 2006 in A Moving Train
May be a little later than most of you, but this Independant (former Republican) is done defending Bush.

This stem cell veto did it for me. He's officially a jackass in my book now. Yeah, let's go against what the majority of the world's scientists believe is a good thing, and shoot the bill down! And he wants to stop testing on animals too? This guy has lost his marbles. I should have voted for Kerry afterall...
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  • Pacomc79Pacomc79 Posts: 9,404
    welcome to the Libertarian Party

    Vote for the Fair Tax, the hell with the lot of em.
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  • my2handsmy2hands Posts: 17,117
    Spartancus wrote:
    May be a little later than most of you, but this Independant (former Republican) is done defending Bush.

    This stem cell veto did it for me. He's officially a jackass in my book now. Yeah, let's go against what the majority of the world's scientists believe is a good thing, and shoot the bill down! And he wants to stop testing on animals too? This guy has lost his marbles. I should have voted for Kerry afterall...


    thank god... the rest of the world welcomes you with open arms my friend

    ps...it is about time :)
  • RockinInCanadaRockinInCanada Posts: 2,016
    Spartancus wrote:
    May be a little later than most of you, but this Independant (former Republican) is done defending Bush.

    This stem cell veto did it for me. He's officially a jackass in my book now. Yeah, let's go against what the majority of the world's scientists believe is a good thing, and shoot the bill down! And he wants to stop testing on animals too? This guy has lost his marbles. I should have voted for Kerry afterall...

    The hi-jacking of the REAL Republican party continues....
  • hippiemomhippiemom Posts: 3,326
    Welcome to you as you step away from the dark side :)
    "Nothing in the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity." ~ MLK, 1963
  • RockinInCanadaRockinInCanada Posts: 2,016
    Spartancus wrote:
    May be a little later than most of you, but this Independant (former Republican) is done defending Bush.

    This stem cell veto did it for me. He's officially a jackass in my book now. Yeah, let's go against what the majority of the world's scientists believe is a good thing, and shoot the bill down! And he wants to stop testing on animals too? This guy has lost his marbles. I should have voted for Kerry afterall...

    Still trying to please the one niche of American culture that actually supports this a-hole....because right now most true Republicans are definetly jumping off with you buddy...
  • keeponrockinkeeponrockin Posts: 7,446
    Rockin'InCanada wrote:
    Still trying to please the one niche of American culture that actually supports this a-hole....

    All 32% of them....
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  • seagoat2seagoat2 Posts: 241
    hippiemom wrote:
    Welcome to you as you step away from the dark side :)

    I'd have to agree w/hippiemom........!

    Welcome!
  • DE JammerDE Jammer Posts: 26
    Spartancus wrote:
    May be a little later than most of you, but this Independant (former Republican) is done defending Bush.

    This stem cell veto did it for me. He's officially a jackass in my book now. Yeah, let's go against what the majority of the world's scientists believe is a good thing, and shoot the bill down! And he wants to stop testing on animals too? This guy has lost his marbles. I should have voted for Kerry afterall...

    He said that he veto because he believed that every human life means something or something to that effect(don't know the exact quote). What an ass. Then why send our boys to die in the war? It's ok to send our troops to die, but not ok to use a cell to save a life?
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  • AhnimusAhnimus Posts: 10,560
    DE Jammer wrote:
    He said that he veto because he believed that every human life means something or something to that effect(don't know the exact quote). What an ass. Then why send our boys to die in the war? It's ok to send our troops to die, but not ok to use a cell to save a life?

    That depends on where you draw the line of "life", is 8 cells in a fertelized egg considered life? Should it read "every human cell means something"? In that case, we have to put an end to female periods, you know how many human cells we lose each day?
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  • bryn_cmbsbryn_cmbs Posts: 407
    DE Jammer wrote:
    He said that he veto because he believed that every human life means something or something to that effect(don't know the exact quote). What an ass. Then why send our boys to die in the war? It's ok to send our troops to die, but not ok to use a cell to save a life?

    exactly
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  • Nakedeye66Nakedeye66 Posts: 94
    I'm with you.

    I was a loyal Dem for 16 years, and have been leaning Republican since 2000. I've always been more Republican on foreign policy but more in the middle domestically. I've been a lukewarm supporter of Bush - more in the "Independent", "McCain Republican", or "conservative Dem" mode ... even though there is no such thing anymore as a a conservative or moderate Dem. They've run us all out of the party.

    Suffice it to say that Bush's foreign policy is rather controversial and usually rudderless. As for domestic policy, he's managed 6 years with essentially no domestic policy at all.

    This stem cell veto is way out of the mainstream, even the Republican mainstream. If his idea of "domestic policy" is nothing but the double-negative of aggressively seeking to ban gay marriage* and aggressively vetoing stem cell research, I'd prefer if he reverted to none at all.

    (* Like abortion and drugs, I'd much prefer this to be a states rights issue. Let the different states, through their legislatures, choose their own approach. I'm very consistent in supporting states rights, and not merely for a particular liberal or conservative cause).
  • 1970RR1970RR Posts: 281
    Ahnimus wrote:
    That depends on where you draw the line of "life", is 8 cells in a fertelized egg considered life? Should it read "every human cell means something"? In that case, we have to put an end to female periods, you know how many human cells we lose each day?
    Along this line, if Bush truly feels this way, why is he not calling for a total ban of stem-cell research? And what about fertility clinics - why not outlaw them as well. They are tossing them out by the bucket load.
  • John BudgeJohn Budge Posts: 259
    Spartancus wrote:
    May be a little later than most of you, but this Independant (former Republican) is done defending Bush.

    This stem cell veto did it for me. He's officially a jackass in my book now. Yeah, let's go against what the majority of the world's scientists believe is a good thing, and shoot the bill down! And he wants to stop testing on animals too? This guy has lost his marbles. I should have voted for Kerry afterall...
    What took you so long? ;)
  • zelda4everzelda4ever Posts: 138
    power to the democrats! this is our country lets rule it!
    -Let's just say i was testing the bounds of reality. I was curious to see what would happen. Thats all it was:just curiosity.

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  • zelda4everzelda4ever Posts: 138
    yes im bringing up the gay marrige issue up.who the hell thought it was a good idea to let him tell us who and who not we can marry i mean im not a lesbien or anything but what about the gay ppl!!!
    -Let's just say i was testing the bounds of reality. I was curious to see what would happen. Thats all it was:just curiosity.

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  • my2handsmy2hands Posts: 17,117
    DE Jammer wrote:
    It's ok to send our troops to die, but not ok to use a cell to save a life?


    i think that sums it up pretty well :)
  • SundaySilenceSundaySilence Posts: 536
    Nakedeye66 wrote:
    I'm with you.

    I was a loyal Dem for 16 years, and have been leaning Republican since 2000. I've always been more Republican on foreign policy but more in the middle domestically. I've been a lukewarm supporter of Bush - more in the "Independent", "McCain Republican", or "conservative Dem" mode ... even though there is no such thing anymore as a a conservative or moderate Dem. They've run us all out of the party.

    Suffice it to say that Bush's foreign policy is rather controversial and usually rudderless. As for domestic policy, he's managed 6 years with essentially no domestic policy at all.

    This stem cell veto is way out of the mainstream, even the Republican mainstream. If his idea of "domestic policy" is nothing but the double-negative of aggressively seeking to ban gay marriage* and aggressively vetoing stem cell research, I'd prefer if he reverted to none at all.

    (* Like abortion and drugs, I'd much prefer this to be a states rights issue. Let the different states, through their legislatures, choose their own approach. I'm very consistent in supporting states rights, and not merely for a particular liberal or conservative cause).


    Maybe you could explore the Blue Dog Coalition. I don't want to push party ideology without discussion, but for immediate foreign policy reasons I support democrats as check and balance to republicans to clog the political war machine.
  • AbuskedtiAbuskedti Posts: 1,917
    SundaySilence wrote:
    Maybe you could explore the Blue Dog Coalition. I don't want to push party ideology without discussion, but for immediate foreign policy reasons I support democrats as check and balance to republicans to clog the political war machine.

    That may be just what keeps it going
  • Purple HawkPurple Hawk Posts: 1,300
    Spartancus wrote:
    May be a little later than most of you, but this Independant (former Republican) is done defending Bush.

    This stem cell veto did it for me. He's officially a jackass in my book now. Yeah, let's go against what the majority of the world's scientists believe is a good thing, and shoot the bill down! And he wants to stop testing on animals too? This guy has lost his marbles. I should have voted for Kerry afterall...

    I disagree with President Bush on this particular issue too, but I'm not going to stop contributing to the RNC because of it.

    What originally drew you to the party and what specifics made you leave?
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  • ajedigeckoajedigecko Posts: 2,430
    1970RR wrote:
    Along this line, if Bush truly feels this way, why is he not calling for a total ban of stem-cell research? And what about fertility clinics - why not outlaw them as well. They are tossing them out by the bucket load.
    i toss mine out by the bucket load...................once each day.
    live and let live...unless it violates the pearligious doctrine.
  • MilestoneMilestone Posts: 1,140
    Apparently when God speaks directly to you....there is no need to listen to scientists who are talking about stem cell research AND global warming.
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  • LaterDaysLaterDays Posts: 142
    DE Jammer wrote:
    Then why send our boys to die in the war? It's ok to send our troops to die, but not ok to use a cell to save a life?

    Reminds me of George Carlin: "Republicans want live fetuses so they can grow up to be dead soldiers."
    "You are everything, and everything is you. Me, you... you, me -- it's all related."
  • LaterDaysLaterDays Posts: 142
    Milestone wrote:
    Apparently when God speaks directly to you....there is no need to listen to scientists who are talking about stem cell research AND global warming.

    ... and evolution...
    "You are everything, and everything is you. Me, you... you, me -- it's all related."
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