Oscar.. Into The Wild "ineligible" for nomination

undone1

Into The Wild, There Will Be Blood, and Enchanted were all excluded from the Original Score category this year, because they were apparently "ineligible"

I am not going to bemoan the fact that Ed has missed out, I am sure he can live without this kind of recognition. I was just wondering how it is pretty much every critic and award ceremony can recognise the album or track as a great OST and tip it for award successes, but no one knew it would be ineligible. What is the criteria you must meet to be included? I know you can't put a previously written song up as a best original piece if it has seen the light of day elsewhere, but if the album was written SPECIFICALLY for the film, where does it fail to qualify?


Maybe it fails to qualify because it wasn't:-
A) Written byElton john/Phil Collins or some other washed up over the hill artist
Written by Randy Newman, because he is apparently contractually obliged to write an "oscar" song every year
C)The film isn't a Disney production, and they get 3 of the five nominations each year
D)Sean Penn isnt an industry lovey, and they wouldnt want him or Eddie on stage making any political speech, either to do with the upcoming elections or the general retardedness of the Bush administration?

Sian-of-the-dead

undone1 wrote:

Maybe it fails to qualify because it wasn't:-
A) Written byElton john/Phil Collins or some other washed up over the hill artist
Written by Randy Newman, because he is apparently contractually obliged to write an "oscar" song every year
C)The film isn't a Disney production, and they get 3 of the five nominations each year
D)Sean Penn isnt an industry lovey, and they wouldnt want him or Eddie on stage making any political speech, either to do with the upcoming elections or the general retardedness of the Bush administration?

sorry, good point madfe but this really made me laugh!

Sian-of-the-dead

undone1 wrote:

Maybe it fails to qualify because it wasn't:-
A) Written byElton john/Phil Collins or some other washed up over the hill artist
Written by Randy Newman, because he is apparently contractually obliged to write an "oscar" song every year
C)The film isn't a Disney production, and they get 3 of the five nominations each year
D)Sean Penn isnt an industry lovey, and they wouldnt want him or Eddie on stage making any political speech, either to do with the upcoming elections or the general retardedness of the Bush administration?

sorry, good point madfe but this really made me laugh!

Yielded

Eddie Vedder's work for Into the Wild was also disqualified for Original Score nomination because it's too "song-based," and the Academy wants the category to concentrate on composers creating dramatic scores. That said, Vedder didn't even get a song nomination, though Alan Menken's three cheeze-oid balads for Enchanted got nods. Cue vomiting.

http://blog.wired.com/underwire/2008/01/oscar-rules-snu.html


http://www.oscars.org/80academyawards/rules/rule16.html


What a bunch of crap!

pjfan31

4. The work must be recorded for use in the film prior to any other usage, including public performance or exploitation through any media whatsoever.


Is this rule the problem? most of this is jibberish, but I'm pretty sure the movie was already made (music excluded) and Sean Penn handed it to Ed to write music. I don't know but this could be a possibility.

But still.... What a crock of shit!!!!!!!!!

Mrs.Vedder78

The problem with the Score is that all of the music for the movie for the score to be considered had to be created specifically for the film, in the case of the ITW score Society and Hard Sun are covers that were not written for the movie, they were just used for the soundtrack, therefore making it ineligible.

pjfan31

Mrs_Vedder78 wrote:

The problem with the Score is that all of the music for the movie for the score to be considered had to be created specifically for the film, in the case of the ITW score Society and Hard Sun are covers that were not written for the movie, they were just used for the soundtrack, therefore making it ineligible.

arrr. Check mate.

Jeff Bebe

Eddie did not write a score for the film, the score was written by Michael Brook.

jordn6971

But the other songs on the soundtrack should have still been eligible for best song.

Flagg

jordn6971 wrote:

But the other songs on the soundtrack should have still been eligible for best song.

Exactly, it couldn't be up for Best Soundtrack because of that rule, but Guaranteed could have been nominated for Best Original Song. THAT is the real snub. It was eligible.

Get_Right

Yielded wrote:

http://blog.wired.com/underwire/2008/01/oscar-rules-snu.html


http://www.oscars.org/80academyawards/rules/rule16.html


What a bunch of crap!

interesting
did you read the part about the music needing to be submitted for consideration?

For an achievement to be eligible for nomination in any of the three music categories, an OFFICIAL SUBMISSION FORM, obtainable from the Academy, must be requested personally by the principal writer(s) who alone may make the submission.

Perhaps Ed did not fill out the proper forms...hahahaha
wouldnt surprise me if me specifically asked not to be considered

Hinny

jordn6971 wrote:

But the other songs on the soundtrack should have still been eligible for best song.

They are. It's the score that's been ruled ineligible. For the songs, the academy voters just went for their Elton John/Phil Collins/Randy Newman Disney showtune favourites, that's all.

Jeanwah

I'm sure Eddie doesn't even care. Who would? The Oscars aren't worthy of Eddie.

Lizard

Jeanwah wrote:

I'm sure Eddie doesn't even care. Who would? The Oscars aren't worthy of Eddie.

Exactly.

WE have already validated it for Eddie and WE are the important people!!!!!!

justjoshingu

i'm telling you, the real reason it was ineligible was becase of paragraph 16 line 280, sentence 43. "any artist who contributed to the song 'croon spoon' shall be banished from every accepting an oscar'" think about it. when was the last time susan sarandon got an oscar for best song either.

GreenTeaDisease

damn I was hoping I could catch of glimpse of ed on the red carpet with Katherine Heigel and find out "who he's wearing."

but in all seriousness, Into the Wild doesn't seem to meet the original score criteria. Original song seems more appropriate.