Will Ed back Ralph Nader?

Sprunkn7

Do you think Ed or Pearl Jam will back Nader again?

Not surprised he is running, but thought he would have let us know a little earlier. This certainly throws a wrench in the works, I was just becoming comfy w/ Obabma.

MasterFramer

I suspect he already does...

South of Seattle

When I read the thread title I thought is said "Is Ed the Black Ralph Nader"

Pegasus

maybe Ed does.
..but the others would look like fools if they do now after all the silliness with Obama

daughter68

During the last election when Rolling Stone did the write up for VFC, Ed was interviewed and had said that Nader should step aside and that after the election he could continue his fight. It sounds like Ed knew that his running would hurt the Dems.

JennyOutOfControl

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swallowedwords

It's unfortunate that the choice will be between McCain and Obama. If Americans really valued their rights and freedoms, they would've voted for Ron Paul in droves. Yes, Obama is an inspiring figure, but his left wing policies would put us in an even deeper hole. Bush has been an absolute disaster, McCain is a joke, Hillary will be out of the game soon, and Nader doesn't stand a chance (Thank God).

We're screwed. Hopefully, some PJ shows will ease my pain.

hiding

nader should skip running and work on the party, he should not be the face, they need to work on the mechanics IMO. that is all

Eliot Rosewater

October22 wrote:

no, i don't think so. not publicly, anyway.

I agree. It seems he's pussied out like most americans and instead of voting his heart and who he truly believes in he'll support someone else just to beat the other candidate. It's madness.

daughter68

Eliot Rosewater wrote:

I agree. It seems he's pussied out like most americans and instead of voting his heart and who he truly believes in he'll support someone else just to beat the other candidate. It's madness.

Yeah, it sucks thats what people have resorted to, but desperate times call for desperate measures...

Surf Life

I think it's interesting that you seem to think you know Ed's heart.

Come Back in Black

Eliot Rosewater wrote:

I agree. It seems he's pussied out like most americans and instead of voting his heart and who he truly believes in he'll support someone else just to beat the other candidate. It's madness.

Madness? Its the rational choice. Nader has no shot to win and never will. It's madness to continue to suport Nader if you would rather have a dem in office than a republican. Nader can't win and yet hurts the dems more than the repubs. Glad to see Eddie has a brain and isn't a completely blind idealist.

azwyldcats

No he won't.

faithful2you

I know everyone is entitled to their own opinions and that's great....but all this "Ron Paul would solve all our problems" stuff is just comical to me. And that's my opinion.

Nader is pretty much a joke too....and that's coming from someone who voted for him 2 elections ago...just to send a message.

EddiesMuse

Nader can screw the Dems again!!

daughter68

Eddie'sMuse wrote:

Nader can screw the Dems again!!

yeah, maybe more people will lose their healthcare, jobs, homes, and their children to war; we were all screwed!

U R A Crazy Breed

faithful2you wrote:

I know everyone is entitled to their own opinions and that's great....but all this "Ron Paul would solve all our problems" stuff is just comical to me. And that's my opinion.

He "could" fix this country if there wasn't so much opposition from the people who are destroying it on purpose,the ones who control Clinton & Obama.

tragibigzanda

Seems like you folks are over-simplifying the issue.

Nader's role in the current election really depends on which state you live in.

As a citizen of Massachusetts, I could vote for Nader and be 100% sure that the electoral college in MA will ultimately go democrat; maybe not the case in, say, Ohio.

Personally, I welcome ANYONE into the race. I don't think Ralph will be, or ever was, a spoiler. Obama and Hillary are both running on platforms of renewable energy, withdrawl from Iraq, and better health care. These are all things Ralph (and others) have talked about in the past, and Nader's plans in particular are actually more extreme than either Obama's or Hillary's; their ideas about renewable energy read like "Nader lite." But that they're even talking about those things shows that the more progressive politicians out there (Nader, Ron Paul, Kucinich, etc) are having an effect. The people behind Obama aren't blind; they saw Ralph get 2.7% of the popular vote in 2000, and they understand that the things he was talking about were striking a chord with an awful lot of people.

SpokenJeremy

swallowedwords wrote:

It's unfortunate that the choice will be between McCain and Obama. If Americans really valued their rights and freedoms, they would've voted for Ron Paul in droves. Yes, Obama is an inspiring figure, but his left wing policies would put us in an even deeper hole. Bush has been an absolute disaster, McCain is a joke, Hillary will be out of the game soon, and Nader doesn't stand a chance (Thank God).

We're screwed. Hopefully, some PJ shows will ease my pain.

Ron Paul is the anti-christ.

Whipping_Boy

I like Ron Paul too but something must be wrong with him for all of the hate groups to be funding his campaign. He has received millions from the KKK and other hate groups. He's come out and said he doesn't agree with them but he still accepted their money. Something fishy there.

The bigger question is will there be a Vote For Change Tour this year? And will it come to Florida?

Crazy Breed wrote:

He "could" fix this country if there wasn't so much opposition from the people who are destroying it on purpose,the ones who control Clinton & Obama.

EddiesMuse

daughter68 wrote:

yeah, maybe more people will lose their healthcare, jobs, homes, and their children to war; we were all screwed!

I dont know about you but since I work my ass off I have healthcare, a home and my brother in law has come home from Iraq 3 times while active duty, 3 times from Afghanistan while active duty and about 4 times since doing private contracting....

The Champ

Who the fuck is Ralph Nader?

U R A Crazy Breed

Whipping_Boy wrote:

I like Ron Paul too but something must be wrong with him for all of the hate groups to be funding his campaign. He has received millions from the KKK and other hate groups. He's come out and said he doesn't agree with them but he still accepted their money. Something fishy there.

The bigger question is will there be a Vote For Change Tour this year? And will it come to Florida?

Yes,it's that easy to discredit him in the eyes of the ignorant.

I assure you he is no racist as others may claim.The scum who run shit from behind the scenes are afraid of Ron Paul because he would seek to undo all they have worked so hard to achieve(the destruction of this country).

Don't be another sheep controlled by the wolf,teaching you to fear the Shepard.

rhinomagic

I don't mind if Ed wants to throw his support behind Nader again.

I would probably not let it sway my opinion that a vote for Nader is a wasted one, though.

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Abookamongstthemany

I hope Ed and everyone else votes for who they view would be the best choice and who stands for what they believe in.

Come Back in Black

Crazy Breed wrote:

Yes,it's that easy to discredit him in the eyes of the ignorant.

I assure you he is no racist as others may claim.The scum who run shit from behind the scenes are afraid of Ron Paul because he would seek to undo all they have worked so hard to achieve(the destruction of this country).

Don't be another sheep controlled by the wolf,teaching you to fear the Shepard.

lol... life is really simple when you divide people into good guys (your side) and bad guys (people you disagree with who must be trying to destroy the country).

I don't care if someone is a Democrat, Republican, Libertarian, Communist, this is a very closed minded way to think. .... just sayin

dharma69

Sprunkn7 wrote:

Do you think Ed or Pearl Jam will back Nader again?

Not surprised he is running, but thought he would have let us know a little earlier. This certainly throws a wrench in the works, I was just becoming comfy w/ Obabma.

I don't know and I don't care. Vedder/Pearl Jam aren't much of a political compass for me.

Either way, Nader's a fair waste of time and, whether *you* like it or not, a fair waste of a vote.

PearlJamaholic

well i was planning on voting for peter parker(spider-man) cause i dont like anyone running but i was gonna let them know i still pay attention. now im gonna vote for nader. maybe nader wont win but at least they will see some people wont pick the choices they give use if we dont like those choices.

homeratbat

god i hope not! for all the people who said there was no difference between gore and bush in 2000 that worked out real well!

no1fromnowhere

The Champ wrote:

Who the fuck is Ralph Nader?

Someone who works for the GOP to help steal elections.

mattosborne

Nader is just damaging his own legacy at this point. The word Nader is practically political jokery. Considering some of the respectable things he's done, him running AGAIN is really a shame.