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  • Lost In Ohio
    Lost In Ohio Posts: 7,245
    https://wishlistfoundation.org/

    I'd start there and on FB.
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  • Lost In Ohio
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  • demetrios
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    edited July 2023


    Looking to get in contact with PJ/Vedder for benefit show for the Missing Persons Foundation. The show will be named after Brian Shaffer, a fan who went missing in 2006 and still hasn't been found.

    Hello, I'm the lead vocalist of a rock band from Columbus, Ohio called Cellar Dwellar. I'm putting together a benefit show at The Newport Music Hall to have the proceeds go to The National Missing Person's Foundation which helps families of missing persons and assists investigations in locating missing persons. We have recieved permission of the remaining members of the Brian Shaffer family that we can name the show in his honor and hopefully rejuvenate interest in his case. Brian was a major PJ fan, having the alive stick man tattooed on him. I'm looking to get into contact with Vedder & Co to possibly have them perform or make an appearance. It's kinda a long shot but we have major podcasts, radio stations, and regional bookers involved so this was the icing on the cake. If anyone has any ideas, any of their booking agent's emails, or ideas on how to get in contact please dm me or comment below. Thank you.




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  • Lost In Ohio
    Lost In Ohio Posts: 7,245
    edited July 2023
    Yeah...I think we all know the chances of that happening. A birdie once told me that something like this was tried before and was instantly and soundly shot down.

    I'd think a better chance might be for an autographed item for a charity fundraiser.
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  • locked
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    is it true that the guy last seen with him will not take a lie detector test or do I have that wrong ?
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  • Gern Blansten
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  • Gern Blansten
    Gern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 22,144
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disappearance_of_Brian_Shaffer#cite_note-2009_Lantern_story-5

    I revisited this...very strange. How in the hell did the cameras not catch him leaving?

    I'm not sure the refusal of a polygraph is that odd. If I'm an attorney I would tell the guy to not do it even though it looks sketchy as hell.
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  • HughFreakingDillon
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    it says "Derek's mother died 3 weeks before Brian went missing". Wouldn't that mean it was also Brian's mother? Or were they step brothers?  
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  • Gern Blansten
    Gern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 22,144
    it says "Derek's mother died 3 weeks before Brian went missing". Wouldn't that mean it was also Brian's mother? Or were they step brothers?  
    confusing but yes it was Brian's mother
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  • HughFreakingDillon
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    wouldn't be out of the question for someone to have a mental blip and take off when a parent dies. 
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  • locked said:
    is it true that the guy last seen with him will not take a lie detector test or do I have that wrong ?

    It seems like he helped somewhat, but then got annoyed.
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  • wouldn't be out of the question for someone to have a mental blip and take off when a parent dies. 

    Throw in the stress from med school...

    But I still think someone saw something that night and isn't saying all they know. Maybe Brian got in a car with a stranger.
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  • Gern Blansten
    Gern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 22,144
    I'm not clear on the security cameras. It sounds like the one club camera was a panning camera so it's possible that Brian slipped out and the timing was just right for the camera to not pick him up.

    But then I read that there were other cameras at businesses across the street that were reviewed so I'm not sure if that could have happened or not.

    That the detectives were theorizing about him changing clothes or exiting out ways that likely wouldn't have been available to patrons makes me think that they are convinced he didn't leave out the door that he entered.

    Very strange. I don't buy the idea that he took off to lead a new life and it seems like if he was too upset about his Mom's passing he wouldn't have been out at a bar anyway.
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  • Gern Blansten
    Gern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 22,144
    Then police discovered something odd: An entrance camera showed Shaffer entering the Ugly Tuna Saloona around 1:15am, but not leaving. Another camera showed he hadn’t slipped out an emergency exit, either.
    In fact, every single person who entered the bar that night was seen leaving, except Shaffer. It’s possible he escaped through an unwatched freight elevator, but security cameras from nearby bars should have spotted him afterward.

    this might be my answer...

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  • Gern Blansten
    Gern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 22,144
    There might have been a blind spot. Perhaps Brian eluded detection. The craggy building that housed the Ugly Tuna was under construction, and a temporary freight elevator escaped surveillance. Maybe Brian came down the rusty service ladder that traversed the shaft, resting for a few seconds on each rung. Maybe someone waited for him at the bottom, making sure he didn’t slip. Still, security cameras from nearby bars — Sloppy Donkey, Mad Mex, Lucky’s Stout House — would have caught him when he fled the building. Somehow, he evaded surveillance in a city with more closed-circuit television than Cleveland, Cincinnati and Toledo combined. Brian had disappeared in Ohio’s most-watched metropolis, where it’s always 1984.
    Derek remembered the surveillance footage, foggy and translucent; it became a visual time capsule, a Pandora’s box. Brian scaled the escalator before turning right; he walked into the bar, into the blank. “He looked like he was having a good time,” says Derek. “Nothing seemed off at all.”


    Remember the Thomas Nine !! (10/02/2018)
    The Golden Age is 2 months away. And guess what….. you’re gonna love it! (teskeinc 11.19.24)

    1998: Noblesville; 2003: Noblesville; 2009: EV Nashville, Chicago, Chicago
    2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
    2013: London ON, Wrigley; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
    2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
    2020: Oakland, Oakland:  2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
    2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
    2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana; 2025: Pitt1, Pitt2
  • Gern Blansten
    Gern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 22,144
    The more I dig into it the Cliff angle seems obvious...but the security footage showed Cliff leaving....

    This might be the most mysterious missing persons case that I can remember.
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    1998: Noblesville; 2003: Noblesville; 2009: EV Nashville, Chicago, Chicago
    2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
    2013: London ON, Wrigley; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
    2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
    2020: Oakland, Oakland:  2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
    2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
    2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana; 2025: Pitt1, Pitt2
  • Cameras: I've always thought the panning camera was at the bottom of the escalators...maybe I'm wrong.

    If Sloppy Donkey was where I think it was...that was a mile or so NORTH...and his apartment was moreso SOUTH...it would have been odd if he traveled north...then again, this whole thing is odd.

    And yeah, the detective enlarged the video on a huge wall/screen and everyone was accounted for.

    "Somehow, he evaded surveillance in a city with more closed-circuit television than Cleveland, Cincinnati and Toledo combined."

    That part. There were cameras all over the place that night.

    Clint...not Cliff..it's just my personal guess with no inside info, but if someone knows something, it's probably gonna be him. I'm not saying he was directly involved, but I wouldn't be surprised if he holds a major key.
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  • Gern Blansten
    Gern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 22,144
    Cameras: I've always thought the panning camera was at the bottom of the escalators...maybe I'm wrong.

    If Sloppy Donkey was where I think it was...that was a mile or so NORTH...and his apartment was moreso SOUTH...it would have been odd if he traveled north...then again, this whole thing is odd.

    And yeah, the detective enlarged the video on a huge wall/screen and everyone was accounted for.

    "Somehow, he evaded surveillance in a city with more closed-circuit television than Cleveland, Cincinnati and Toledo combined."

    That part. There were cameras all over the place that night.

    Clint...not Cliff..it's just my personal guess with no inside info, but if someone knows something, it's probably gonna be him. I'm not saying he was directly involved, but I wouldn't be surprised if he holds a major key.
    Yeah but the fact that the detective sees Clint leave with the girl seems to be a solid alibi. Brian clearly left the building and coincidentally avoided the cameras. 

    The comments that Brian's brother made about Clint are unnerving though. He clearly feels like Clint knew something but again... Cameras show Clint leaving 
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    The Golden Age is 2 months away. And guess what….. you’re gonna love it! (teskeinc 11.19.24)

    1998: Noblesville; 2003: Noblesville; 2009: EV Nashville, Chicago, Chicago
    2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
    2013: London ON, Wrigley; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
    2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
    2020: Oakland, Oakland:  2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
    2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
    2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana; 2025: Pitt1, Pitt2
  • Gern Blansten
    Gern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 22,144
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ETpMarF2yg

    Long watch but interesting...he breaks it down pretty well
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    1998: Noblesville; 2003: Noblesville; 2009: EV Nashville, Chicago, Chicago
    2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
    2013: London ON, Wrigley; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
    2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
    2020: Oakland, Oakland:  2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
    2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
    2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana; 2025: Pitt1, Pitt2
  • evsgjamm
    evsgjamm Posts: 2,108
    I like that dude.  I am very curious on the theory he disregarded; that Brian could've drowned in a river. The Olentangy River is only a mile west of the Ugly Tuna, and it's right beside The James Cancer Hospital. With his mother's passing due to cancer only 25 days prior to his disappearance, I believe it is not only possible, but probable that he could've stumbled to one of those bridges near the cancer hospital in a fit of depression and unbearable grief and jumped off the bridge. Did the river get combed? Not that I heard...
    Clint... you sound very suspicious as well
    Burglary or altercation with unknown thugs after leaving the bar.... I can see that as well; them disposing a body after murdering him. Frick... It's a tough case that's gone on far too long. I still can't get over the image of that dude I saw in the James Cancer Hospital commercial a while ago. He looks uncannily like Brian. 
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