Fellow Jammers, based on the response from the DC show where 10C members were able to get tickets, so far we have over 50. The DC show sold out, so I'm assuming maybe each show has 75-100 available.
San Fran 92, San Fran 93, Berkeley 93, Indio 93, Fairfax 94, DC 95, San Fran 95, DC 95, Va Beach 98, Columbia 98, Dc 98, Va Beach 00, Columbia 00, Philly 03, Bristow 03, Chicago 06, Chicago 06, Dc 06, DC 08
Lately, Live Nation has allowed band fan clubs to get as many as 8-10% of a venues available seats. If you subtract band and VIP holds, season ticket holders, etc... that would make me guess that each MSG had about 1500 to maybe 1800 seats available for the Ten Club.
that makes no sense... for nj and msg last time they said they had thousands in attendence and that it was the most 10c seats sold for the whole tour... something aint right here
that makes no sense... for nj and msg last time they said they had thousands in attendence and that it was the most 10c seats sold for the whole tour... something aint right here
I agree but that was prior to Live Nation having a "policy". Look into it.
that makes no sense... for nj and msg last time they said they had thousands in attendence and that it was the most 10c seats sold for the whole tour... something aint right here
yeah somethine aint right here, peoples math. not everyone comes onto this website. i know a bunch of people who got ickets for both shows today and have never been on this website. there were the same amount of tickets available today as there was at any msg show ever
"you can say that we're, nocturnal, posssomists"
-ed july 8th MSG 2004
This article is a couple years old but seems to still ring true:
Scalpers, fan clubs, promoters snapping up choicest concert seats
How hard is it to get good seats for a hot concert act?
In a year that's shaping up as the largest collective of A-list touring acts since the mid-1990s, demand for concert tickets is so intense that nabbing a great seat - make that "any" seat - is nearly impossible by conventional methods.
Months ahead of concert dates, superstar draws such as U2, the Rolling Stones, Paul McCartney and Bruce Springsteen are mostly ultra-fast sellouts, underscoring overwhelming demand from a huge fan base of teens to baby boomers.
Combined with the selling efficiency of the Internet and swelling competition from scalpers, "your chances of getting a great seat after a concert goes on sale are almost non-existent," says Arizona State University economist Steve Happel, a concert business expert. "Tickets are gone in a heartbeat."
Because massive numbers are snapped up by scalpers, marketers, promoters, tour sponsors, bands, their fan clubs and sports stadiums, which often give preferential treatment to team season-ticket holders seeking concert seats, ordinary fans are often last in line.
Concert sellouts mostly are a hallmark of older, established male rock artists and country stars such as Toby Keith. While Madonna, Cher and Janet Jackson have staged top-grossing concert tours in the past, most female artists, as well as contemporary, urban and hip-hop performers, generally do far better selling CDs and DVDs than filling concert seats, says Ray Waddell, senior touring editor for Billboard magazine. "There've been some hot hip-hop tours - 50 Cent and Eminem could be huge this year - but most never equal what they do at retail," he says.
Across most genres, many bands and promoters are still smarting from 2004, when high ticket prices and lackluster fan interest led to several money-losing tours. This year, Clear Channel Communications, a major tour promoter and venue operator, is slashing some prices to lure fans.
Still, dinosaur bands such as the Rolling Stones and Motley Crue continue to command top dollar: more than $400 for face-value tickets. And die-hard fans are willing to pay several thousand more to an increasingly sophisticated network of scalpers.
"There's a cadre of wealthy fans pushing up prices of popular acts," says Princeton University economist Alan Krueger, who helped coined the term "rockonomics."
Long among rock's top-grossing live acts, the Stones have sold out 32 North American concert dates on sale so far. Four others are near sellouts. The band is adding shows to meet demand and may ultimately expand its tour to 50 shows, says veteran tour director Michael Cohl.
All 28 of McCartney's U.S. shows were fast sellouts, as were several shows added to satiate fans.
U2 sold out all 110 North American and European concert dates, most within minutes. By the time U2 ends the tour at Portland's Rose Garden Dec. 19, its global windfall will surpass $300 million - the biggest single chunk of this year's $3 billion concert market, says Gary Bongiovanni, editor of industry tracker" Pollstar". The Stones and McCartney tours could each reap $100 million, he says.
Where do the tickets go?
Traditionally, most fans got the best concert seats by camping out in front of venues and buying tickets as soon as sales opened. That time-honored technique is proving increasingly frustrating.
Bruce Voelker tried landing four $50 floor tickets for U2's Philadelphia show by having a relative line up hours before the box office opened. Only one ticket, far from the floor, was available when he reached the front of the line. "Everyone's competing for the same concert," says Voelker, 28, a Baltimore biologist. "Now, you have to try to buy six months in advance. It ruins the experience."
Most buyers are funneled through Ticketmaster, which sold nearly 100 million tickets last year to live events and other entertainment through the Internet and a far-flung network of sales outlets and call centers. "When you have the Internet and thousands of outlets, seats sell out virtually instantly," says David Goldberg, Ticketmaster's head of strategy and business development.
"These days, everyone has cell phones and computers to tap in," Waddell says. "There's an intensity that wasn't there five years ago."
With hotter acts, phone and online ticket hunts are often futile. Soon after the electronic sales gates opened for McCartney's September Atlanta concert, "there were no seats, even in the nosebleed section," says Glenn Hughes, a Murray, Ky., ad executive.
Hughes, 54, managed to buy two $125 tickets to McCartney's Tampa show. With airfare, hotel and incidentals, Hughes and his wife, Patricia, will spend more than $1,000.
McCartney's 58 shows in 2002 pulled in about $125 million, the year's top-grossing act. But he and other big-name artists are doing fewer 2005 shows. Springsteen, on a solo acoustic tour, is opting for more intimate, smaller venues, further draining a limited ticket pool.
Just how many tickets are held out by artists, promoters and venues and never made available to the mass market is closely guarded. Ticketmaster says sales are proprietary. Clear Channel declined comment. Waddell estimates that up to 20 percent of tickets are held back. "They go to bands, promoters, (venues), sponsors, radio promotions and record labels," he says. "These are generally the best seats."
His estimate may be low. "In some buildings, you might need 2,000 tickets for the fan club, 2,000 for radio stations and the band and 5,000 more" for companies such as American Express that use pre-sales for marketing, Cohl says.
Sports coliseums and stadiums may be ideal for packing in huge concert crowds. But stages, equipment and other limitations cut seating. Scott Stadium in Charlottesville, Va., holds 61,500 fans for University of Virginia football games, but for the Stones' Oct. 6 show, there may be space for 51,000.
Moreover, arenas and stadiums owned by professional teams or managers often allow season-ticket holders first crack at concert seats.
Boston's Fenway Park holds 36,298 fans for Red Sox games. Seating is limited to 30,000 for the Stones' August shows. Red Sox season-ticket holders grabbed 12,500 a show after Stones fan club members had their shot; only about half were left for general sale.
Washington, D.C.'s MCI Center holds up to 20,675 fans for Wizards NBA games. Seating at U2's Oct. 19 and 20 shows will be limited to 18,000. Season-ticket holders and U2 fan club members were first in line, leaving 12,000 a show for general sale. Both sold out in 30 minutes. For the Stones' Oct. 3 MCI show, just 15,000 seats were available for general sale. They were gone in 20 minutes.
Coldplay sold out in 10 minutes
Coldplay sold out two September Madison Square Garden shows in 10 minutes, says band manager Dave Holmes. The Garden can seat 20,000, but seats weren't sold behind the band's stage, reducing the gate to 14,000. Fan club members got 1,400 tickets. "The rule of thumb is the first 15 rows go to the fan club," Holmes says.
Ticket holds for the band, guests, concert promoter and band label Capitol Records -- also considered choice seating - left about 10,000 seats for general sale. "We try to take care of our fans, but we still get complaints," Holmes says. "You can't please everyone."
Marketers also frequently grab large chunks of tickets for pre-sales. American Express won't release specifics but says it had "thousands" of pre-sale tickets for Stones shows in New York, Boston, Chicago, Los Angeles and San Francisco. "There were enough to make it worthwhile for card members," says spokeswoman Judy Tenzer. "Knowing they can get tickets before the general public is a tremendous benefit."
Tour sponsors such as Ameriquest, the mortgage company underwriting the Stones' U.S. shows, also get tickets, typically 100 to 500 a show, for consumer promotions, employees and clients. "They're supposed to be good seats, in the top 15 percent," says Ameriquest marketing chief Brian Woods.
There'll be even fewer seats for average fans at the Stones' Nov. 4 show in Anaheim, Calif., near Ameriquest's corporate headquarters. "We've got over 10,000 employees here," Woods says. "We're not in the ticket business, but how can we sponsor a tour and not allow every employee to see the band?"
Scalpers tune in
Ticketmaster continually tries to prevent scalpers from edging out fans, limiting purchases and setting up optical barriers to prevent scalpers from using automated computer programs to gobble up blocks of tickets. "We take a lot of measures to ensure everyone has fair access, but it's a constant cat-and-mouse game," Goldberg says.
But security experts say it's not hard for hackers to circumvent anti-scalping security measures with sophisticated computer programs. "An intermediate-level programmer can script something relatively easy, and it costs almost nothing to set up a scalping system," says Joe Stewart, senior researcher for security monitor LURHQ.
Moreover, scores of consumers who obtain the pre-sale password code Ticketmaster and band Web sites typically require often put them up for sale on their own. Online auctioneer eBay currently lists 270 auctions just for pre-sale concert-ticket access passwords.
For years, fans often got choice concert tickets by joining band fan clubs. But scalping networks also buy fan-club memberships - a cost-effective method for obtaining face-value tickets for resale - a concept U2 didn't grasp until its botched fan-club sales effort this year. U2 offered up to eight concert tickets to those who had forked out $40 for fan-club membership. But a limited number of tickets and competition from scalpers quickly overwhelmed supply, prompting the band to reimburse fan-club fees. U2 drummer Larry Mullen weighed in with an apology during the band's acceptance speech at February's Grammy Awards.
"For scalpers, U2 is the Super Bowl," Waddell says.
The Stones charge $100 for "platinum" fan-club membership and a chance for pre-sale concert tickets. Fan-club members also can preview seating availability online. "If you don't like the seats, you don't have to buy the membership," Cohl says. "We're hoping to match hopes and reality."
Coldplay doesn't charge fans to join its club. About 500 scalpers posing as fan-club members have been blocked from buying tickets so far, but Holmes concedes many have used club access to grab tickets for resale.
For those whose concert dreams remain unfulfilled, scalpers are becoming an increasing supply source. About 20 states prohibit ticket resales or require broker licenses, but anti-scalping laws, mostly misdemeanor offenses, are lightly enforced.
Up to 30 percent of hot concert tickets probably are sold by scalpers, fueled largely by growing Internet sales, Happel says.
Scalpers and ticket brokers take in an estimated $1.5 billion a year reselling concert tickets. Once confined to local brokers and shady scalpers hawking tickets outside venues, resellers are well represented on the Internet, which has spawned several hundred online marketers such as TicketsNow and StubHub.
Two front-row tickets for the Stones' Aug. 21 Boston show are being offered for $7,410 on ticketsnow.com. The company also developed proprietary "plug-in" software that allows hundreds of professional brokers to link to a central selling database. "Business is booming," says founder Mike Domek. "Buying in the secondary market is now mainstream."
Competitor stubhub.com, another Internet site that serves as a clearinghouse for buyers and sellers, says soaring ticket prices in the secondary market simply reflect supply and demand. "If it's a great seat, that ticket will trade at a price regardless of restrictions and price caps," says StubHub co-founder Jeff Fluhr. StubHub profits by tacking on a 25 percent surcharge -- 15 percent to sellers, 10 percent to buyers.
Many resellers are small-time entrepreneurs who might take offense at the term scalper because they pick up a handful of extra seats to offset the cost of their own. Annual ticket auctions are growing more than 50 percent a year at eBay, the electronic storefront for thousands of sellers, says spokesman Dean Jutilla. eBay currently has listings for about 100,000 tickets, 90 percent for sporting events and concerts.
$4,250 for two U2 tickets
Through mid-June, there have been more than 6,200 eBay listings for U2 tickets alone. Highest price paid so far: $4,250 for two seats for the May 21 show at Madison Square Garden. eBay has had 5,700 listings for McCartney's tour. Highest winning bid: $4,299 for two seats at his Anaheim show. Among the 3,000 eBay listings for Stones tickets so far, fans have bought three separate pairs for nearly $4,000 apiece.
With fans willing to shell out thousands, scalping becomes tempting for musicians, too. As the drummer for Semisonic -- opening act for headliners Matchbox Twenty and Sheryl Crow -- Jacob Slichter frequently got free tickets. "One show we had tickets to were going on eBay for $3,000," says Slichter, author of "So You Wanna Be a Rock & Roll Star. ""It was tempting to sell, but it seemed sacrilegious."
Most musicians concede there's little to stop scalpers.
"Scalping has been around forever," says Jimmy Buffett. Front-row tickets to Buffett's Sept. 4 show at Chicago's Wrigley Field are being offered by online scalpers for $1,560. "I don't have any answer to it," Buffett says. "I'm doing less dates, and there are fewer tickets, and that's the problem. It's the law of supply and demand. If people didn't want to sit there, it wouldn't be happening."
If the 10% rule is in effect (and I have no reason to see why it's not), there were 1,000 pairs for sale for each MSG show. I get this by calculating 10% of the 20,000 seat attendance from both shows in 2003 and dividing that total in half to come up with pairs of tickets.
So far the show with the most fan club seats will have been Camden because it's capacity for concerts is 25,000 which gave the venue an extra 250 pairs of tickets ten club could sell.
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That's why it was so difficult to get tix.
Randall's Island 96----NJ 1 '06
14 shows and counting
thank god i got the only 2 seats to night one
I agree but that was prior to Live Nation having a "policy". Look into it.
yeah somethine aint right here, peoples math. not everyone comes onto this website. i know a bunch of people who got ickets for both shows today and have never been on this website. there were the same amount of tickets available today as there was at any msg show ever
-ed july 8th MSG 2004
the first 40 rows???
50 seats in a row????????? right????
Till there aint nothing left worth taking away from me.....
Scalpers, fan clubs, promoters snapping up choicest concert seats
How hard is it to get good seats for a hot concert act?
In a year that's shaping up as the largest collective of A-list touring acts since the mid-1990s, demand for concert tickets is so intense that nabbing a great seat - make that "any" seat - is nearly impossible by conventional methods.
Months ahead of concert dates, superstar draws such as U2, the Rolling Stones, Paul McCartney and Bruce Springsteen are mostly ultra-fast sellouts, underscoring overwhelming demand from a huge fan base of teens to baby boomers.
Combined with the selling efficiency of the Internet and swelling competition from scalpers, "your chances of getting a great seat after a concert goes on sale are almost non-existent," says Arizona State University economist Steve Happel, a concert business expert. "Tickets are gone in a heartbeat."
Because massive numbers are snapped up by scalpers, marketers, promoters, tour sponsors, bands, their fan clubs and sports stadiums, which often give preferential treatment to team season-ticket holders seeking concert seats, ordinary fans are often last in line.
Concert sellouts mostly are a hallmark of older, established male rock artists and country stars such as Toby Keith. While Madonna, Cher and Janet Jackson have staged top-grossing concert tours in the past, most female artists, as well as contemporary, urban and hip-hop performers, generally do far better selling CDs and DVDs than filling concert seats, says Ray Waddell, senior touring editor for Billboard magazine. "There've been some hot hip-hop tours - 50 Cent and Eminem could be huge this year - but most never equal what they do at retail," he says.
Across most genres, many bands and promoters are still smarting from 2004, when high ticket prices and lackluster fan interest led to several money-losing tours. This year, Clear Channel Communications, a major tour promoter and venue operator, is slashing some prices to lure fans.
Still, dinosaur bands such as the Rolling Stones and Motley Crue continue to command top dollar: more than $400 for face-value tickets. And die-hard fans are willing to pay several thousand more to an increasingly sophisticated network of scalpers.
"There's a cadre of wealthy fans pushing up prices of popular acts," says Princeton University economist Alan Krueger, who helped coined the term "rockonomics."
Long among rock's top-grossing live acts, the Stones have sold out 32 North American concert dates on sale so far. Four others are near sellouts. The band is adding shows to meet demand and may ultimately expand its tour to 50 shows, says veteran tour director Michael Cohl.
All 28 of McCartney's U.S. shows were fast sellouts, as were several shows added to satiate fans.
U2 sold out all 110 North American and European concert dates, most within minutes. By the time U2 ends the tour at Portland's Rose Garden Dec. 19, its global windfall will surpass $300 million - the biggest single chunk of this year's $3 billion concert market, says Gary Bongiovanni, editor of industry tracker" Pollstar". The Stones and McCartney tours could each reap $100 million, he says.
Where do the tickets go?
Traditionally, most fans got the best concert seats by camping out in front of venues and buying tickets as soon as sales opened. That time-honored technique is proving increasingly frustrating.
Bruce Voelker tried landing four $50 floor tickets for U2's Philadelphia show by having a relative line up hours before the box office opened. Only one ticket, far from the floor, was available when he reached the front of the line. "Everyone's competing for the same concert," says Voelker, 28, a Baltimore biologist. "Now, you have to try to buy six months in advance. It ruins the experience."
Most buyers are funneled through Ticketmaster, which sold nearly 100 million tickets last year to live events and other entertainment through the Internet and a far-flung network of sales outlets and call centers. "When you have the Internet and thousands of outlets, seats sell out virtually instantly," says David Goldberg, Ticketmaster's head of strategy and business development.
"These days, everyone has cell phones and computers to tap in," Waddell says. "There's an intensity that wasn't there five years ago."
With hotter acts, phone and online ticket hunts are often futile. Soon after the electronic sales gates opened for McCartney's September Atlanta concert, "there were no seats, even in the nosebleed section," says Glenn Hughes, a Murray, Ky., ad executive.
Hughes, 54, managed to buy two $125 tickets to McCartney's Tampa show. With airfare, hotel and incidentals, Hughes and his wife, Patricia, will spend more than $1,000.
McCartney's 58 shows in 2002 pulled in about $125 million, the year's top-grossing act. But he and other big-name artists are doing fewer 2005 shows. Springsteen, on a solo acoustic tour, is opting for more intimate, smaller venues, further draining a limited ticket pool.
Just how many tickets are held out by artists, promoters and venues and never made available to the mass market is closely guarded. Ticketmaster says sales are proprietary. Clear Channel declined comment. Waddell estimates that up to 20 percent of tickets are held back. "They go to bands, promoters, (venues), sponsors, radio promotions and record labels," he says. "These are generally the best seats."
His estimate may be low. "In some buildings, you might need 2,000 tickets for the fan club, 2,000 for radio stations and the band and 5,000 more" for companies such as American Express that use pre-sales for marketing, Cohl says.
Sports coliseums and stadiums may be ideal for packing in huge concert crowds. But stages, equipment and other limitations cut seating. Scott Stadium in Charlottesville, Va., holds 61,500 fans for University of Virginia football games, but for the Stones' Oct. 6 show, there may be space for 51,000.
Moreover, arenas and stadiums owned by professional teams or managers often allow season-ticket holders first crack at concert seats.
Boston's Fenway Park holds 36,298 fans for Red Sox games. Seating is limited to 30,000 for the Stones' August shows. Red Sox season-ticket holders grabbed 12,500 a show after Stones fan club members had their shot; only about half were left for general sale.
Washington, D.C.'s MCI Center holds up to 20,675 fans for Wizards NBA games. Seating at U2's Oct. 19 and 20 shows will be limited to 18,000. Season-ticket holders and U2 fan club members were first in line, leaving 12,000 a show for general sale. Both sold out in 30 minutes. For the Stones' Oct. 3 MCI show, just 15,000 seats were available for general sale. They were gone in 20 minutes.
Coldplay sold out in 10 minutes
Coldplay sold out two September Madison Square Garden shows in 10 minutes, says band manager Dave Holmes. The Garden can seat 20,000, but seats weren't sold behind the band's stage, reducing the gate to 14,000. Fan club members got 1,400 tickets. "The rule of thumb is the first 15 rows go to the fan club," Holmes says.
Ticket holds for the band, guests, concert promoter and band label Capitol Records -- also considered choice seating - left about 10,000 seats for general sale. "We try to take care of our fans, but we still get complaints," Holmes says. "You can't please everyone."
Marketers also frequently grab large chunks of tickets for pre-sales. American Express won't release specifics but says it had "thousands" of pre-sale tickets for Stones shows in New York, Boston, Chicago, Los Angeles and San Francisco. "There were enough to make it worthwhile for card members," says spokeswoman Judy Tenzer. "Knowing they can get tickets before the general public is a tremendous benefit."
Tour sponsors such as Ameriquest, the mortgage company underwriting the Stones' U.S. shows, also get tickets, typically 100 to 500 a show, for consumer promotions, employees and clients. "They're supposed to be good seats, in the top 15 percent," says Ameriquest marketing chief Brian Woods.
There'll be even fewer seats for average fans at the Stones' Nov. 4 show in Anaheim, Calif., near Ameriquest's corporate headquarters. "We've got over 10,000 employees here," Woods says. "We're not in the ticket business, but how can we sponsor a tour and not allow every employee to see the band?"
Scalpers tune in
Ticketmaster continually tries to prevent scalpers from edging out fans, limiting purchases and setting up optical barriers to prevent scalpers from using automated computer programs to gobble up blocks of tickets. "We take a lot of measures to ensure everyone has fair access, but it's a constant cat-and-mouse game," Goldberg says.
But security experts say it's not hard for hackers to circumvent anti-scalping security measures with sophisticated computer programs. "An intermediate-level programmer can script something relatively easy, and it costs almost nothing to set up a scalping system," says Joe Stewart, senior researcher for security monitor LURHQ.
Moreover, scores of consumers who obtain the pre-sale password code Ticketmaster and band Web sites typically require often put them up for sale on their own. Online auctioneer eBay currently lists 270 auctions just for pre-sale concert-ticket access passwords.
For years, fans often got choice concert tickets by joining band fan clubs. But scalping networks also buy fan-club memberships - a cost-effective method for obtaining face-value tickets for resale - a concept U2 didn't grasp until its botched fan-club sales effort this year. U2 offered up to eight concert tickets to those who had forked out $40 for fan-club membership. But a limited number of tickets and competition from scalpers quickly overwhelmed supply, prompting the band to reimburse fan-club fees. U2 drummer Larry Mullen weighed in with an apology during the band's acceptance speech at February's Grammy Awards.
"For scalpers, U2 is the Super Bowl," Waddell says.
The Stones charge $100 for "platinum" fan-club membership and a chance for pre-sale concert tickets. Fan-club members also can preview seating availability online. "If you don't like the seats, you don't have to buy the membership," Cohl says. "We're hoping to match hopes and reality."
Coldplay doesn't charge fans to join its club. About 500 scalpers posing as fan-club members have been blocked from buying tickets so far, but Holmes concedes many have used club access to grab tickets for resale.
For those whose concert dreams remain unfulfilled, scalpers are becoming an increasing supply source. About 20 states prohibit ticket resales or require broker licenses, but anti-scalping laws, mostly misdemeanor offenses, are lightly enforced.
Up to 30 percent of hot concert tickets probably are sold by scalpers, fueled largely by growing Internet sales, Happel says.
Scalpers and ticket brokers take in an estimated $1.5 billion a year reselling concert tickets. Once confined to local brokers and shady scalpers hawking tickets outside venues, resellers are well represented on the Internet, which has spawned several hundred online marketers such as TicketsNow and StubHub.
Two front-row tickets for the Stones' Aug. 21 Boston show are being offered for $7,410 on ticketsnow.com. The company also developed proprietary "plug-in" software that allows hundreds of professional brokers to link to a central selling database. "Business is booming," says founder Mike Domek. "Buying in the secondary market is now mainstream."
Competitor stubhub.com, another Internet site that serves as a clearinghouse for buyers and sellers, says soaring ticket prices in the secondary market simply reflect supply and demand. "If it's a great seat, that ticket will trade at a price regardless of restrictions and price caps," says StubHub co-founder Jeff Fluhr. StubHub profits by tacking on a 25 percent surcharge -- 15 percent to sellers, 10 percent to buyers.
Many resellers are small-time entrepreneurs who might take offense at the term scalper because they pick up a handful of extra seats to offset the cost of their own. Annual ticket auctions are growing more than 50 percent a year at eBay, the electronic storefront for thousands of sellers, says spokesman Dean Jutilla. eBay currently has listings for about 100,000 tickets, 90 percent for sporting events and concerts.
$4,250 for two U2 tickets
Through mid-June, there have been more than 6,200 eBay listings for U2 tickets alone. Highest price paid so far: $4,250 for two seats for the May 21 show at Madison Square Garden. eBay has had 5,700 listings for McCartney's tour. Highest winning bid: $4,299 for two seats at his Anaheim show. Among the 3,000 eBay listings for Stones tickets so far, fans have bought three separate pairs for nearly $4,000 apiece.
With fans willing to shell out thousands, scalping becomes tempting for musicians, too. As the drummer for Semisonic -- opening act for headliners Matchbox Twenty and Sheryl Crow -- Jacob Slichter frequently got free tickets. "One show we had tickets to were going on eBay for $3,000," says Slichter, author of "So You Wanna Be a Rock & Roll Star. ""It was tempting to sell, but it seemed sacrilegious."
Most musicians concede there's little to stop scalpers.
"Scalping has been around forever," says Jimmy Buffett. Front-row tickets to Buffett's Sept. 4 show at Chicago's Wrigley Field are being offered by online scalpers for $1,560. "I don't have any answer to it," Buffett says. "I'm doing less dates, and there are fewer tickets, and that's the problem. It's the law of supply and demand. If people didn't want to sit there, it wouldn't be happening."
So far the show with the most fan club seats will have been Camden because it's capacity for concerts is 25,000 which gave the venue an extra 250 pairs of tickets ten club could sell.
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