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When does NO become YES?

punkrockgrrlpunkrockgrrl Posts: 26
edited September 2005 in Poetry, Prose, Music & Art
When does NO become YES? Is it in the moment he tunes out to her screams? Does it happen in the moment her terror prevents her from screaming? She can't fight anymore...Does it mean she never fought at all? Did she not do enough? Does no become yes when he's aroused by her...what she's wearing...the body language and signs he believes she's declaring? When does she become a willing participant?? What constitutes consent? When does it become her fault that he perceived yes to be what she meant? Should it matter she's not bruised or beaten? Twice a victim..two times traumatized when the law sings of the burden of proof--Why didn't you scream louder? Why isn't there signs of a struggle? We see no marks on him... Perhaps it happened honey, but it's a case you ain't gonna win! So it goes--She goes away thinking, MAYBE it was my fault..led to believe she's done wrong...confused and fucked up feeling MAYBE she asked for it all along. All along he tells himself her tears were passion...her muffled cries were pleasure...These ARE the standards by which his power is measured.
When does NO become YES?
He NEVER heard NO at all...
I never stood a chance.
In this river
All shall fade to black...
In this river
Ain't no comin' back
Z.W.
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  • Your_endorphin_rushYour_endorphin_rush Posts: 69
    scary,scary stuff.

    to this small self,NO ALWAYS MEANS NO.

    it's never her fault.
    it's the power of a misguided mind and strength of a pitiful man.
    This is the best I could come up with.
  • Childrens HourChildrens Hour Posts: 93
    Such smart people here..
    My opinion; This is real art..

    Nothing left to say, I'm sorry
    ۞Je houdt niet van haar omdat ze bijzonder is, ze is bijzonder omdat ze van je houdt,
    ۞Liefde is niet dat waarop het uitloopt, maar dat waarmee het begint,
    ۞Er is liefde en je begint een relatie om te zien of zij daartegen bestand is.
  • anxietypleaseanxietyplease Posts: 48
    I didn't get an apology either....yer not alone.
    "If it takes my whole life, I won't break I won't bend."
    -S. McLachlan
  • punkrockgrrlpunkrockgrrl Posts: 26
    this spoken word piece wasn't written to be scary.... i am sorry i made you feel afraid or scared or whatever... just venting is all....
    In this river
    All shall fade to black...
    In this river
    Ain't no comin' back
    Z.W.
  • Your_endorphin_rushYour_endorphin_rush Posts: 69
    punkrockgrrl wrote:
    this spoken word piece wasn't written to be scary.... i am sorry i made you feel afraid or scared or whatever... just venting is all....

    don't apologize.
    What I meant is the essence of the piece was scary that
    indeed makes me frightened but not for myself.
    Powerful words to say the least.
    This is the best I could come up with.
  • edeneden Posts: 407
    anxietyplease wrote:
    I didn't get an apology either....yer not alone.

    Your not alone indeed.
    Beautiful self expression/ healing piece btw.

    Men who hurt women are the biggest cowards around.
    They realize they have nothing left to control us with but their physical strenghth, so these cowards use it.
    The problem is, it works. When You are hurt physically or sexually by someone with so much more physical strenghth than you, you often wonder if this time you arent going to live through it, so the abuse touches you in almost every area of your being, not just your body.
  • violet rayviolet ray Posts: 502
    no becomes yes ONLY when games are being played between two willing parties. that's a different story.

    otherwise...
    been there too...so sorry for you.
    You ask me to enter
    But then You make me crawl
    And I can't be holding on
    To what You got
    When all You've got is hurt
    ----
    Underneath this smile lies everything
    All my hopes and anger, pride and shame
  • cartoonnightmarecartoonnightmare Posts: 52
    that's really beautiful. please continue to share your thoughts..
  • nailz100nailz100 Posts: 1,176
    My heart goes out to you...and your encapsulating work. How deep into my core this piece has struck me, though not of me but of my girl long since gone and what I once referred to as a best friend. A woman is a door to all sort of wonders to be unlocked with a key, not forced open by hand.
    Only with our eyes closed can we truly see
  • Dreams of RedDreams of Red Posts: 203
    childrens hour..."Such smart people here..My opinion; This is real art..

    Nothing left to say, I'm sorry"


    there's not much more to say.. true Art doesn't exist, because it is isnt Art, its life... there is an art to everything... so yeah, next to actually coming-into physical contact with people and Nature, this is the realest 'art' there is.


    "and clearly pearl jam fans are the smartest people on earth."--me to my father last night.
    i'm a thief... and a liar...

    see Ed's church?--he's breathing fire.....
  • Bu$hleagueBu$hleague Posts: 78
    "When she says stop, you gotta stop; when he says go, you still gotta stop...
    ... sit back like they taught us, stay quiet like they taught us..."

    good job.
    "I'm like an opening band for the sun"
  • AliAli Posts: 2,621
    Nice work punk rock grrl.
    I say vent all you want.I have.
    You need anything.just ask.
    Nice poem;)
    A whisper and a thrill
    A whisper and a chill
    adv2005

    "Why do I bother?"
    The 11th Commandment.
    "Whatever"

    PETITION TO STOP THE BAN OF SMOKING IN BARS IN THE UNITED STATES....Anyone?
  • MikeZuck0211MikeZuck0211 Posts: 4
    i am speechless. the power, the depth, the emotion, and the???? the YOU of it is phenomenal. a true artist you are.
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