do you think i'm stupid?

violet ray

~*~

suede

another good one. there are other world's to be rocked. if this person doesn't give you their time...then they are not worth your time. i learned that not too long ago.

Amaterasu

people!! A person whoever she is has feelings too
but you shred it as if its second nature...
Maybe if you learn a thing or two about yourself
you would think twice about how you effect the
one you supposedly "love" then you wouldn't have
to question your STUPIDITY.

violet ray

Originally posted by Amaterasu
people!! A person whoever she is has feelings too
but you shred it as if its second nature...
Maybe if you learn a thing or two about yourself
you would think twice about how you effect the
one you supposedly "love" then you wouldn't have
to question your STUPIDITY.

can you explain that please?

DopeBeastie

this poem questions one man's duplicity
the author is by no means responsible for the emotions of the subject's other interests, only her own. she, like most amatuer poets, catharts a p.o.v., and it is necessary to do should she wish to transcend the experience ~ a rather intelligent move, imo

to highlight and bold "stupidity" is low down, mean, hateful and selfish


fire fodder


as it were



rot, even

FinsburyParkCarrots

I side wholeheartedly with Pasta on this one.



Thank you for your poem, violet ray.

violet ray

and thank you both.

i can't help but wonder why *my* shredded feelings aren't supposed to matter, amaterasu?

violet ray

.

nailz100

I think she's talking about the feelings of this other girl....and maybe that you should warn her about this guy instead of leaving her to fend for herself against this wolf....who knows.
Of course your feelings matter....I'm with you...my guess is one day this wolf will be come the sheep and be devoured.

Amaterasu

Referring to your first post then the self posed
question of stupidity only exemplifys your own
victimization..
I don't have time for this.

nailz100

What??....who's victimization is she supposed to write about if not her own?

FinsburyParkCarrots

If there is any rule in reading literature at all - and I'm a training literary critic and I can posit this with some qualification - then it's that you can never presume that the first person, self referential narrator of any piece of poetry or prose, though perhaps unnamed, is the actual poet or author. Rabindranath Tagore often wrote poems from a variety of vocal and focal perspectives, and it didn't make his work any the less 'true' for that. The above argument against the work doesn't reasonably respect the strength of the poem itself but presumes an authorial intention you can never know just by reading.

"Criticism" in my book means an informed analytical reading of a text which is judicious to the work.

nailz100

I hear that fins....that could definately be true
My point is (if it is indeed her own work)...then it is completely just, for her to write about how she feels and not have to worry about what other people think she should do. I'd be damned to let someone tell me how to write when I am spewing venom in every direction...my advice would be to cover your eyes. Kudos to you VR for writing whats on your mind, if indeed it is your mind that it is on...

FinsburyParkCarrots

Originally posted by nailz100
I hear that fins....that could definately be true
My point is (if it is indeed her own work)...then it is completely just, for her to write about how she feels and not have to worry about what other people think she should do. I'd be damned to let someone tell me how to write when I am spewing venom in every direction...my advice would be to cover your eyes. Kudos to you VR for writing whats on your mind, if indeed it is your mind that it is on...

Oh sure, we agree. If our works require feedback it should be constructive and never personal.

DopeBeastie

Originally posted by Amaterasu
Referring to your first post then the self posed
question of stupidity only exemplifys your own
victimization..
I don't have time for this.

as does the actual use of the word "victim"



however...


it's just a poem, right? lol....

goofs :P

suede

fuckin' a

violet ray

this crappy bunch of words and you people are wondering if i "really" wrote it?

i was trying to let my feelings out instead of holding them in for a change...
gotta remember not to do that, it doesn't work.

JDE-PJ

Originally posted by violet ray
this crappy bunch of words and you people are wondering if i "really" wrote it?

i was trying to let my feelings out instead of holding them in for a change...
gotta remember not to do that, it doesn't work.

nope you're wrong, letting them out is always the right thing, no matter what happens, if the people who read them don't get them, maybe the wrong people are in your life!


oh and your words are not crappy.

suede

i'm soooo right

violet ray

Originally posted by JDE-PJ
nope you're wrong, letting them out is always the right thing, no matter what happens, if the people who read them don't get them, maybe the wrong people are in your life!


oh and your words are not crappy.

its not the right thing to do
it doesn't work
it doesn't feel good
and you end up being a total fucking asshole idiot

JDE-PJ

Originally posted by violet ray
its not the right thing to do
it doesn't work
it doesn't feel good
and you end up being a total fucking asshole idiot

nope, nope, nope.


you're none of those things, and I am sorry you don't feel well, but again maybe you're writing your feelings out to the wrong people violet ray.

violet ray

Originally posted by JDE-PJ
nope, nope, nope.


you're none of those things, and I am sorry you don't feel well, but again maybe you're writing your feelings out to the wrong people violet ray.

i only open up SOMETIMES to people that open me up first, IF i want to be.

i fucked up, plain and simple.

JDE-PJ

Originally posted by violet ray
i only open up SOMETIMES to people that open me up first, IF i want to be.

i fucked up, plain and simple.

if that is the case, then maybe you ought to change that about the opening up part.


sorry you feel the way you do, I hope it gets better soon.

suede

I believe INXS said it best:
"Don't change for you, don't change a thing...for me."

nailz100

I don't think you Fucked up at all VR....and I LIKE your poem alot..
Don't listen to what anyone else has to say....on this board or elsewhere. Speak your mind and feel free to say whatever you wish to whoever you wish, about whatever you wish....its freedom of fucking speech. "keep on rockin in the free world"

PJGirl2004

I think you are entitled to feel, write, and express yourself in any way you wish and I think you did a good job in doing so. When your feelings are hurt...write. Whatever comes out is the moment you are in and you are derserving of it. And sometimes it helps too. I know some of the things I write can come across as lonley or bitter or sad, but every time I express those emotions I grow a little and move along just a bit more. So keep it up and let your mind run free!

nailz100

Listen to the lady...she knows what she's talking about

suede

Originally posted by PJGirl2004
I think you are entitled to feel, write, and express yourself in any way you wish and I think you did a good job in doing so. When your feelings are hurt...write. Whatever comes out is the moment you are in and you are derserving of it. And sometimes it helps too. I know some of the things I write can come across as lonley or bitter or sad, but every time I express those emotions I grow a little and move along just a bit more. So keep it up and let your mind run free!

yep, totally agree with everything you said. in the end, it's life we are talking about. life is about growing as a person, learning, and being able to give back.

DopeBeastie

a little ray-dio head for YOU


Cuttooth
I wanna be in the wallpaper
Or run away to the foreign legion
I wanna be in the wallpaper
Or run away to the foreign legion

And as the tanks roll into town
As the tanks roll into town
A little bit of knowledge will destroy you
A little bit of knowledge will destroy you

As the tanks roll into town
As the tanks roll into town
A little bit of knowledge will destroy you
A little bit of knowledge will destroy you

I dont know why I feel so tongue-tied
I dont know why I feel so skinned alive

Hold you till the arms are sore
Until you cannot feel it any more
Hold you till the arms are sore
Until you find an open door

I built you up to pull you down
Tie you to your feet, and watch you drown
A little bit of knowledge will destroy you
A little bit of knowledge will destroy you
I built you up to pull you down
Tie you to the stake, and watch you crying out

I dont know why I feel so tongue-tied
I dont know why I feel so skinned alive
I'll find another skin to wear
I'll find another skin to wear




{{{{U}}}}}

Mr Pyjama

Yeah theres good and bad things about opening up and letting things out.

For eg. my friend wrote this secret letter thing and i read it and i dont thnk i was meant to, as it could have been for me? Anyway, now i'm kinda happy cos i know how she feels, but every time we've seen each other since, its been kinda awkward. I think that its good to let things out but sometimes you may not be prepared for the person you wrote it for to read it.

Also i wrote a couple of poems (see the Last Silent Words thread *great plug!!!*) that were kind of respnses to what she said, cos i felt that i needed to let things out. I was eager for her to read it, but if she does it could end up making things worse. However i do feel good for not storing up my emotions/feelings.