1st draft Poem / comments

jboelhowjboelhow Posts: 170
I am looking for honest constructive critisim of the following poem. I am using the poem as the backbone of a mini-movie I am producing for a contest. This is the FIRST draft, but I know we have some very insightful people on this board and I would appreciate your honest opinion. Both BAD and GOOD. Thanks!!

**Life is Beautiful**

Rainy Mornings
And cappuccino afternoons
All we have is the moments we choose
And the eyes we use to feel them

Life is beautiful
Even when the night falls
For the stars are there calling us
It takes thousands of years
For them to tell us a minute of their stories

I see the pain
And the joy
Of the reflection in the mirror
Forever showing the yesterday
I try to remember

Life is beautiful
When a child smiles
Because they can
In their eyes lies a secret
We somehow forget as we grow old

That secret I believe
Is the secret of life
And that Life is Beautiful
Live the life you dream

"Cause I can't wait to figure out what's wrong with me
So I can say this is the way I use to be" -- John Mayer
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  • Originally posted by jboelhow
    I am looking for honest constructive critisim of the following poem. I am using the poem as the backbone of a mini-movie I am producing for a contest. This is the FIRST draft, but I know we have some very insightful people on this board and I would appreciate your honest opinion. Both BAD and GOOD. Thanks!!

    **Life is Beautiful**

    Rainy Mornings
    And cappuccino afternoons
    All we have is the moments we choose
    And the eyes we use to feel them

    Life is beautiful
    Even when the night falls
    For the stars are there calling us
    It takes thousands of years
    For them to tell us a minute of their stories

    I see the pain
    And the joy
    Of the reflection in the mirror
    Forever showing the yesterday
    I try to remember

    Life is beautiful
    When a child smiles
    Because they can
    In their eyes lies a secret
    We somehow forget as we grow old

    That secret I believe
    Is the secret of life
    And that Life is Beautiful

    Disclaimer: I have no degree in Literature of any kind (Physics, if you were wondering). I know what I know through reading and writing.

    These are gonna be sorta all over the map, but anyway...

    First of all, it's "all we have are the moments we choose"

    now, "feel" is an interesting choice and I wonder if you considered the ramafications. You see, "feel" obviosly refers to our sense of touch, which is the most intimate of our senses. To say that we feel our moments with our eyes (an inherently distant and non-intimate sense) suggests someone who has difficulty with intimacy or action. If that's what you were going for, Brilliant. If not you should reconsider.

    I don't have too much time right now to pour over the rest but it seems pretty well written to me. Despite your optimistic ending, I get an overall feel of regret from your poem--a very interesting duality.

    Good Luck and keep writing, it's the only way to go.

    Peace Out
    If there was a chair in which I could comprehend, I would stand always and embrace the path
  • AmaterasuAmaterasu Posts: 317
    Good.
  • jboelhowjboelhow Posts: 170
    Originally posted by Traver DiDiminico


    First of all, it's "all we have are the moments we choose"

    now, "feel" is an interesting choice and I wonder if you considered the ramafications. You see, "feel" obviosly refers to our sense of touch, which is the most intimate of our senses. To say that we feel our moments with our eyes (an inherently distant and non-intimate sense) suggests someone who has difficulty with intimacy or action. If that's what you were going for, Brilliant. If not you should reconsider.


    Peace Out
    Thanks for the input Traver DiDiminico :)
    This part is suppose to represent that disconnection you mentioned... that feeling of not fully being involved in the moment, we "see" our lives but how many of us get all our senses involved?
    Thanks again.

    Feel free anyone to comment, I am taking notes...
    Live the life you dream

    "Cause I can't wait to figure out what's wrong with me
    So I can say this is the way I use to be" -- John Mayer
  • ISNISN Posts: 1,700
    I re-wrote the poem a bit.....see what you think

    Rainy Mornings
    And cappuccino afternoons
    All we have are the moments we choose
    And the eyes we use to feel them
    As we bathe in the beauty of Life

    Life is beautiful
    Even when the night falls
    For the stars are there calling us
    It takes thousands of years
    For them to tell us a minute of their stories
    As we bask in the glory of Life

    I see the pain
    And I see the joy
    Of that viewed in the mirror
    Always showing the yesterday
    And I always try to remember
    The glory of years lived in the grip of Life

    Life is beautiful, a treasure
    When a child smiles
    From deep inside and spreads their mirth about
    In their eyes twinkle secrets
    Forgotten (though once known)
    And we sing through the story of Life

    Those secrets I believe
    Are the secrets of life retrieved
    and how deep is the Beauty of Life

    (the last line bit must be influenced by Chimes of Freedom by Bob Dylan cos I'm listening to it so much atm)
    ....they're asking me to prove why I should be allowed to stay with my baby in Australia, because I'm mentally ill......and they think I should leave......
  • jboelhowjboelhow Posts: 170
    Originally posted by ISN
    I re-wrote the poem a bit.....see what you think

    00000

    ISN, I like the repeated idea of "LIFE" lines. (Had a "want to be a millionaire" flash back) I will consider using this approach in the next draft. Thanks.
    Live the life you dream

    "Cause I can't wait to figure out what's wrong with me
    So I can say this is the way I use to be" -- John Mayer
  • jboelhowjboelhow Posts: 170
    I'm going to bump this... because I would really like as much input as I can get. I'm trying to expand this poem into a visual format, so if any images come to mind I would like to hear those too. Thanks.
    Live the life you dream

    "Cause I can't wait to figure out what's wrong with me
    So I can say this is the way I use to be" -- John Mayer
  • "Rainy Mornings
    And cappuccino afternoons
    All we have is the moments we choose
    And the eyes we use to feel them"

    You could say the same thing without the discourse of the last two lines. You could say this in images, whilst saving the introduction of the concept of "the eye" for a moment:

    "Rainy mornings, cappucino afternoons:
    Moments of decision shine
    like diamond rain on an open window,
    pattering beautifully
    between the sounds of wind
    between the trees."

    Then, when instead of saying:

    "Life is beautiful
    Even when the night falls
    For the stars are there calling us
    It takes thousands of years
    For them to tell us a minute of their stories",

    you could play with the image of diamond rain and turn it into an image of a star:

    "Yes, Diamond rain stars a window,
    And tonight the map of gems will crown
    true stars, their precise deliberate blaze
    immediate on the eye, like revelation,
    whispering thousands of years
    in the lonely passing of light."

    So, you're introducing the idea that there are moments of decision and revelation about the nature of consciousness and being and purpose, and they spot like rain which, you have hinted, punctuate great intervals of indecision; then you consider starlight which hits you like a revelation but again has to negotiate the vastness of space and time.

    You could condense this:

    "I see the pain
    And the joy
    Of the reflection in the mirror
    Forever showing the yesterday
    I try to remember

    Life is beautiful
    When a child smiles
    Because they can
    In their eyes lies a secret
    We somehow forget as we grow old"

    And say:

    "Rain on glass decides a path,
    Starlight in an eye ends a travel in darkness.
    A child sees all of this,
    A child's eyes smile the destiny of starlight.
    But my own eyes in a mirror
    are often dulled,
    unremembering chances of light."

    End with this, which echoes Socratic/Platonic concepts of the path of recollection as the route to wisdom:

    "Beautiful rain, beautiful stars:
    Let me find the decision of revelation
    an epiphany of life on a path of recollection
    in return to the eye of the child."

    Just a suggestion.

    :)
  • jboelhowjboelhow Posts: 170
    Originally posted by FinsburyParkCarrots
    "

    "Rainy mornings, cappuccino afternoons:
    Moments of decision shine
    like diamond rain on an open window,
    pattering beautifully
    between the sounds of wind
    between the trees."

    "Yes, Diamond rain stars a window,
    And tonight the map of gems will crown
    true stars, their precise deliberate blaze
    immediate on the eye, like revelation,
    whispering thousands of years
    in the lonely passing of light."

    "Rain on glass decides a path,
    Starlight in an eye ends a travel in darkness.
    A child sees all of this,
    A child's eyes smile the destiny of starlight.
    But my own eyes in a mirror
    are often dulled,
    unremembering chances of light."

    "Beautiful rain, beautiful stars:
    Let me find the decision of revelation
    an epiphany of life on a path of recollection
    in return to the eye of the child."

    Just a suggestion.

    :)

    Just a beautiful poem in it's own right... I stand in awe of your poetic power FinsburyParkCarrots !!!!!

    Side ramble here: this is what true art should be. Copyrights be damned. I believe that artist should be paid/ recognized for their work. But if something inspires us, we should be able to go with it. FinsburyParkCarrots has taken my words and created his own work. (which I must say is probably better than mine...) This is the power of art and I think we are losing that because everything is protected. Ok ramble over.

    Thanks for the suggestions FinsburyParkCarrots... second version is almost done...
    Live the life you dream

    "Cause I can't wait to figure out what's wrong with me
    So I can say this is the way I use to be" -- John Mayer
  • I've always believed that social being determines consciousness and that poems are therefore social products, constructed by writers and readers. The author of any poem on this board is anyone involved in the transmission of its meaning, from the writer of the piece to the people who designed the verdana font we use, to the people who designed the bbs layout, to Kat and Sea and the people responsible for the text's public presentation, to the readers too. We all "write" the poem at some level. When we write we bring into play all our residual, dominant and emergent world views, and what characterises our work as special is how we do this, and what views we privilege in the interpretation and construction of poetic meaning.

    Having said that, all my work is copyright Shranamonragh Bridgesongs, and if anyone nicks it, oi'll chop yer ballllllllllls orf......

    :D:D:D
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