September 11, 2004

EvilToasterElfEvilToasterElf Posts: 1,119
For a while it was hard
to take the ferry past those two
holes in the sky
I was convinced that the downtown smog
would avoid that patch of air
And now I take the subway
through that space
like rising in a jet through a cloud
that exists only on the approach
and exit
The train buckles as if driven on rails of shame and corpses
The concrete hole in the city shivers
the womb of modern history
penetrated by steel and rage
inside its white darkness, it's thought
leap into the atlantic, to feed the lumbering
air craft carriers
terror, anger, doubt, violence, vengeance, shame
all these mix
into a blank stare
like a dream played out on the eyes of a coma patient
Quarells echo through the nearby office buildings
who have for the first time seen the sun
What is a fit tribute to its ghosts who stumble in the dust?
Any park, any place of forget and remembrance calculatingly
mixed
serve only as a wilted bouquet in the terminal wing
a reminder of life for that fleeting moment
between a memory of a dead relative
and a drop of moisture pressed from the brain to the
ducts behind the eye
All around those concrete stumps are the carrion and vultures
of tragedy
Tourists no longer pretend to be moved, but inhale the air
greedily with camcorders and cameras
hoping to stop history around them, put little bookmarks in their
placid memoirs
And to their pockets the souvenir peddlers swoop
opportunists or jobless downtrodden
I hate them and pity them
but I do not blame them, history has only rarely lacked spectators



that is all for now, I do not know if more will come

ETE
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  • You know it's good though.
  • BuruBuru Posts: 8,473
    I liked how you mixed forlorn feelings and contempt
    this poem was both sad and angry
    angry at human nature

    it also has a very fitting and powerful ending
    if there is more to come, I'll gladly read

    the part I like best is from:

    "What is a fit tribute to its ghosts who stumble in the dust?" till the end.
    but there are plenty of good verses everywhere
    y la banda de Guille... cuando toca?
  • EvilToasterElfEvilToasterElf Posts: 1,119
    it's a bit a journalism with no journalistic integrity


    thankyou for reading
  • Originally posted by EvilToasterElf
    it's a bit a journalism with no journalistic integrity

    Exactly. It's good poetry.

    :)
  • Wow.

    When words can make one sit back in their chair and ponder. It's good.

    I just lived it.

    Thanks for the mental visuals. It was all clear.

    Damn I'm still thinking about all that.

    nice work.
  • actaloactalo Posts: 29
    Nicely put. I think those words can apply to so much more than just the WTC... which obviously makes the piece all the more moving.

    I especially identify with the lines "All around those concrete stumps are the carrion and vultures
    of tragedy
    Tourists no longer pretend to be moved, but inhale the air
    greedily with camcorders and cameras
    hoping to stop history around them, put little bookmarks in their
    placid memoirs
    And to their pockets the souvenir peddlers swoop
    opportunists or jobless downtrodden..."

    But in a way, people wish to feel part of the loss... the pain of those who witnessed and lost transcends, those "tourists" hoping to breathe in the emotion... and like he wrote "little bookmarks in their placid memoirs," People visit Normandy for that same reason... to feel the depth of pain and hopefully rekindle some sort of humanity in their own hearts. To gain a perspective, or perhaps just as a scene of death... a macabre sense of "alive."
  • EvilToasterElfEvilToasterElf Posts: 1,119
    There are some of both kinds, and like all events the moment drifts and leaves a more detached statistic history, but if you had gone there this time two years ago, people would not be smiling and making jokes about it, just as you would act quite differently visiting normandy with a veteran than with your peers

    It is this detachment, and this loss of respect, that for "Veterans" of that day, who will their whole lives feel real human attachment to it, the spectacle of tourism is one of the most heinous thoughts imaginable. Because for us the consequences are not the economy, the war in iraq or any other of the far reaching effects, but the lives lost there, the faces that only for a moment drift from that dark spot where all memory revives itself, and they smile just for a minute at you as if through a whole in time, and drift back just at the moment when someone offers you a camera timidly and asks in hawaiian shirts to have you take their picture in front of this hallowed ground.

    It is of course unreasonable, but things like this will never be rational
  • anOmisanOmis Posts: 223
    Originally posted by EvilToasterElf
    For a while it was hard
    to take the ferry past those two
    holes in the sky
    I was convinced that the downtown smog
    would avoid that patch of air
    And now I take the subway
    through that space
    like rising in a jet through a cloud
    that exists only on the approach
    and exit
    The train buckles as if driven on rails of shame and corpses
    The concrete hole in the city shivers
    the womb of modern history
    penetrated by steel and rage
    inside its white darkness, it's thought
    leap into the atlantic, to feed the lumbering
    air craft carriers
    terror, anger, doubt, violence, vengeance, shame
    all these mix
    into a blank stare
    like a dream played out on the eyes of a coma patient
    Quarells echo through the nearby office buildings
    who have for the first time seen the sun
    What is a fit tribute to its ghosts who stumble in the dust?
    Any park, any place of forget and remembrance calculatingly
    mixed
    serve only as a wilted bouquet in the terminal wing
    a reminder of life for that fleeting moment
    between a memory of a dead relative
    and a drop of moisture pressed from the brain to the
    ducts behind the eye
    All around those concrete stumps are the carrion and vultures
    of tragedy
    Tourists no longer pretend to be moved, but inhale the air
    greedily with camcorders and cameras
    hoping to stop history around them, put little bookmarks in their
    placid memoirs
    And to their pockets the souvenir peddlers swoop
    opportunists or jobless downtrodden
    I hate them and pity them
    but I do not blame them, history has only rarely lacked spectators



    that is all for now, I do not know if more will come

    ETE

    really powerfull poem Evil
    strong images
    i felt the atmospehere..falt the whole thing!!
    ~~dont mind yer make up, just make up yer mind~~

    ~~its better to be hated for who you are than be loved for who you are not~~

    F.ZAPPA
  • DopeBeastieDopeBeastie Posts: 2,513
    Originally posted by EvilToasterElf
    For a while it was hard
    to take the ferry past those two
    holes in the sky
    I was convinced that the downtown smog
    would avoid that patch of air
    And now I take the subway
    through that space
    like rising in a jet through a cloud
    that exists only on the approach
    and exit
    The train buckles as if driven on rails of shame and corpses
    The concrete hole in the city shivers
    the womb of modern history
    penetrated by steel and rage
    inside its white darkness, it's thought
    leap into the atlantic, to feed the lumbering
    air craft carriers
    terror, anger, doubt, violence, vengeance, shame
    all these mix
    into a blank stare
    like a dream played out on the eyes of a coma patient
    Quarells echo through the nearby office buildings
    who have for the first time seen the sun
    What is a fit tribute to its ghosts who stumble in the dust?
    Any park, any place of forget and remembrance calculatingly
    mixed
    serve only as a wilted bouquet in the terminal wing
    a reminder of life for that fleeting moment
    between a memory of a dead relative
    and a drop of moisture pressed from the brain to the
    ducts behind the eye
    All around those concrete stumps are the carrion and vultures
    of tragedy
    Tourists no longer pretend to be moved, but inhale the air
    greedily with camcorders and cameras
    hoping to stop history around them, put little bookmarks in their
    placid memoirs
    And to their pockets the souvenir peddlers swoop
    opportunists or jobless downtrodden
    I hate them and pity them
    but I do not blame them, history has only rarely lacked spectators



    that is all for now, I do not know if more will come

    ETE

    the wilted bouquet was not always so
    and the tear presses toward the eye with less loss behind it
    and the tourists are moved... or they wouldn't have found themselves there... and perhaps some of them mindlessly buy trinkets to take to their homes that will eventually wind up in a landfill somewhere in America... or other places
    and sometimes spectators lift prayers, the sight seen, an image on which to talk to god
    and the directly affected continue to spite tragedy
    as is their way
    THEIR rememberance
    each must become private
    lest the wound re-open




    I sat between my friend, his middle finger, and Columbine High not long ago. A defining moment of loss in whose way I tried to stand, looking for ghosts. I didn't see any, but there's a hole in ground there, too.
  • ISNISN Posts: 1,700
    I remember being on a mental ward once....a girl committed suicide....the night b4 we had gone to the pub....a medical student asked whether we picked the clothes we were going to wear the day b4 or whether we just got dressed in the morning....I always picked my clothes the night b4.....I passed her the Rhubayat of Omar Kyam trans. Edward Fitzgerald.......or whatever.....the day we went to the pub....the next day she was dead.....apparently.....h7ung from the ceiling.....I wrote a poem for her.....when we talked about it in the group.....and Dr Rosen....shut me up.....and said it was inappropriate......I think it's inappropriate to trivialise those recently dead with stupid poetry......do not compose poems for September 11....stupid platitudes.....you have no idea
    ....they're asking me to prove why I should be allowed to stay with my baby in Australia, because I'm mentally ill......and they think I should leave......
  • EvilToasterElfEvilToasterElf Posts: 1,119
    You're right, what's the point of using human expression for human emotion, what was I thinking
  • Much contemporary art and classical/jazz music was produced in and around New York City in the months following 9/11. Such cultural production happened not as a means of cashing in on but of responding deeply to what happened that day and the complex aftermath of events, thoughts, feelings, doubts and questions that ensued, from expressions of grief to troubling issues of how the event affected peoples' imagined perceptions of self and community (local, national and international), and society and socio-economic structure within a global political system, after the destruction of the Twin Towers.
    Art is conditioned by history, however personal the theme of art, for, to quote a cliche here, "The personal is the political". Throughout history, oral traditions have related to us wars in a place called Troy, and furthermore have told us of the effect of war on the character of individuals such as Agamemnon and Achilles; First World War poets such as Owen and Rosenberg have enriched our understanding, both of the human cost of modern, mechanised warfare, and the notions of the "poetics of pity" that survive the horror of carnage. Without art, we would lack a cultural reference for understanding how humans cope with the worst of possible historical events. And without the poetry being produced in DC ghettoes and in Iraq that USsoldier is kindly sharing with us on the board at the moment, important voices speaking as a break through the midsts of numb reticence, repression, violence and fear would be lost.
    The most historically powerful and longlasting of poetry is, to quote Shakespeare here, by the art of known and feeling sorrows, pregnant to good pity. We will learn much of ourselves and our understanding of compassion through the art produced as a response to 9/11.
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