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Yellow LedbennerYellow Ledbenner Posts: 54
edited November 2008 in The Porch
At the end of the song, you hear drum sticks falling to the ground. A friend of mine told me that this was Dave's last song that he recorded with the band and when it was over, he slammed the sticks and walked out.

Is this true or was he just rockin' the hell out?
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    not true. the drum part was hard and he had to do it over and over again because it wasn't perfect, so when he finally nailed it he through them in triumph
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    At the end of the song, you hear drum sticks falling to the ground. A friend of mine told me that this was Dave's last song that he recorded with the band and when it was over, he slammed the sticks and walked out.

    Is this true or was he just rockin' the hell out?

    It's true that it is Dave throwing his sticks. He did it out of frustration because Brendan O'Brien put a lot of pressure on him during the recording of the track. It was definately not the last track he recorded with the band because he recorded the drums for Vitalogy.
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    Yeahm it definitely wasn't his last song... but he threw them down because Eddie had made him do the track over and over again because Ed wasn't happy with it... Dave thought it was ok so was getting more and more frustrated so threw them across the room/against the wall on the last take.

    Edit - Eddie/Brian... someone didn't think it was right :p
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    Yeahm it definitely wasn't his last song... but he threw them down because Eddie had made him do the track over and over again because Ed wasn't happy with it... Dave thought it was ok so was getting more and more frustrated so threw them across the room/against the wall on the last take.

    Edit - Eddie/Brian... someone didn't think it was right :p

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    Brendan O'Brien

    Lol, yeah I knew someone wasn't happy with it, thought it was Ed, but I edited my post cos I wasn't sure.
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    haha thanks for the responses. well I'M happy with it. One of my favorites
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    GivenToJam88GivenToJam88 NJ Posts: 1,187
    i love hearing the drumsticks at the end - it adds something to the song
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    Gonzo1977Gonzo1977 Posts: 1,696
    A little known fact.

    The hour was getting late. Eddie, Stone, Jeff and Mike were out back shooting hoops completley unaware of the trouble brewing in the studio.

    Brendon O'Brian and Dave A were recording the drum track for Rearviewmirror.

    Brendon was riding Dave really hard in order to get a very agressive drum take; as per the order of the songs writer: Eddie Vedder.

    Dave A was trying his hardest to make his producer and Lead Singer proud. However he just couldn't get the drum track right.

    Brendon was getting really fustrated with Dave A and a loud argument ensued.

    To both Dave A and Brendon O'Brien's surprize...Phil Collins, successful solo artist and famous singer/ drummer for the band Genesis was next door in the other studio recording another in a series of horrifcally mediocre solo albums that he had become known for at this particular stage of his career.

    Phil Collins while meditating, heard the comotion going on in the next studio.

    Pounded loudly on the wall and shouted

    "YOU GUYS ARE WRECKING MY VIBE"!!

    Out of respect to Phil Collins, Brendon and Dave decided to calm down and give the drum track another go.

    But...Dave once again blew the track and once again an argument ensued

    Brendon started being a real dickhead and warned Dave A that if he didn't get the drums right on this next take that "Perhaps they would have to get Phil Collins to come in and drum on this track"

    This smart ass comment really pissed Dave A off and the drummer charged Brendon and the 2 men got into a violent scuffle.

    Phil Collins fed up that his meditation was being ruined, burst into the studio and broke up the fight.

    Dave A. got up, pushed Phil Collins aside, and then stormed out of the studio crying and went home.

    Brendon was fustrated.

    Time was becoming a major issue and he desperately needed the drum track to be completed and mixed.

    But of course, without a drummer...this was going to be very difficult.

    Brendon out of complete desperation pleaded for Phil Collins to get behind the kit and complete the ending of the song.

    Phil refused at first but soon conceded upon the enticing promise of the world famous "Brendon O' Brien Neck Massage".

    Phil got behind the drums and Brendon went into the control room to record Phil.

    The track was going better than expected when all of sudden, just as Phil was finishing up...Eddie walked into the control room.

    Eddie was furious

    Eddie: "BRENDON, WHAT THE FUCK IS GOING ON HERE"??
    "WHERE THE HELL IS DAVE A, AND WHO THE FUCK IS THIS BALD GUY"?

    Brendon: "Eddie, I'm sorry Dave couldn't hack it, so we got Phil Collins to..."

    Eddie: "PHIL FUCKING COLLINS"??? "PHIL FUCKING COLLINS...BRENDON"??

    Eddie then stormed into the studio and pointed his finger at Phil Collins...

    Phil scared shitless, threw his drum sticks against the wall and ran from the studio.

    Amazingly enough, upon playback of the recorded Phil Collins drum track, the band was shockingly satisfied with the track and deemed it to be "Total Pro" as well as "the finest drum take of the session".

    The track despite the drum sticks thrown against the wall was called "a keeper" and so the Phill Collins drum take actually ended up on the Vs. Album.

    Neither Phil Collin's or Dave A were ever told of this.

    Ever since Dave A's departure from the band, it has been a running joke between Brendon O' Brien and the remaining members of Pearl Jam that when a drum track is not going as planned that they all share a hardy laugh over the comment:

    "Where is Phil Fucking Collins When You Need Him" :)
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    pjsteelerfanpjsteelerfan Maryland Posts: 9,886
    Gonzo1977 wrote:
    A little known fact.

    The hour was getting late. Eddie, Stone, Jeff and Mike were out back shotting hoops completley unaware of the trouble brewing in the studio.

    Brendon O'Brian and Dave A were recording the drum track for Rearviewmirror.

    Brendon was riding Dave really hard in order to get a very agressive drum take; as per the order of the songs writer: Eddie Vedder.

    Dave A was trying his hardest to make his producer and Lead Singer proud. However he just couldn't get the drum track right.

    Brendon was getting really fustrated with Dave A and a loud argument ensued.

    To both Dave A and Brendon O'Brien's surprize...Phil Collins, successful solo artist and famous singer/ drummer for the band Genesis was next door in the other studio recording another in a series of horrifcally mediocre solo albums that he had become known for at this particular stage of his career.

    Phil Collins while meditating, heard the comotion going on in the next studio.

    Pounded loudly on the wall and shouted

    "YOU GUYS ARE WRECKING MY VIBE"!!

    Out of respect to Phil Collins, Brendon and Dave decided to calm down and give the drum track another go.

    But...Dave once again blew the track and once again an argument ensued

    Brendon started being a real dickhead and warned Dave A that if he didn't get the drums right on this next take that "Perhaps they would have to get Phil Collins to come in and drum on this track"

    This smart ass comment really pissed Dave A off and the drummer charged Brendon and the 2 men got into a violent scuffle.

    Phil Collins fed up that his meditation was being ruined, burst into the studio and broke up the fight.

    Dave A. got up, pushed Phil Collins aside, and then stormed out of the studio crying and went home.

    Brendon was fustrated.

    Time was becoming a major issue and he desperately needed the drum track to be completed and mixed.

    But without a drummer...this was going to be very difficult to complete.

    Brendon out of complete desperation pleaded for Phil Collins to get behind the kit and complete the ending of the song.

    Phil refused at first but soon conceded upon the enticing promise of the world famous "Brendon O' Brien Neck Massage".

    Phil got behind the drums and Brendon went into the control room to record Phil.

    The track was going better than expected when all of sudden, just as Phil was finishing up...Eddie walked into the control room.

    Eddie was furious

    Eddie: "BRENDON, WHAT THE FUCK IS GOING ON HERE"??
    "WHERE THE HELL IS DAVE A, AND WHO THE FUCK IS THIS BALD GUY"?

    Brendon: "Eddie, I'm sorry Dave couldn't hack it, so we got Phil Collins to..."

    Eddie: "PHIL FUCKING COLLINS"??? "PHIL FUCKING COLLINS...BRENDON"??

    Eddie then stormed into the studio and pointed his finger at Phil Collins...

    Phil scared shitless, threw his drum sticks against the wall and ran from the studio.

    Amazingly enough, upon playback of the recorded Phil Collins drum track, the band was shockingly satisfied with the track and deemed it "To be the best take of the session". It was a keeper and ended up on the Vs. Album.

    Neither Phil Collin's or Dave A were ever told of this.

    Ever since Dave A's departure from the band, it has been a running joke between Brendon O' Brien and the remaining members of Pearl Jam that when a drum track is not going as planned that they all share a hardy laugh over the comment:

    "Where is Phil Fucking Collins When You Need Him" :)

    Who would have thought phil collins?
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    haha funny shit.
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    Who would have thought phil collins?

    I always heard it was this guy.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YouX-PdWQIY
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    yea i remember reading about that in that RS interview by Cameron Crowe when Vs. was released. Awesome story and I do believe it makes the song just a little bit cooler.
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    youngsteryoungster Boston Posts: 6,574
    Gonzo1977 wrote:
    A little known fact.

    The hour was getting late. Eddie, Stone, Jeff and Mike were out back shooting hoops completley unaware of the trouble brewing in the studio.

    Brendon O'Brian and Dave A were recording the drum track for Rearviewmirror.

    Brendon was riding Dave really hard in order to get a very agressive drum take; as per the order of the songs writer: Eddie Vedder.

    Dave A was trying his hardest to make his producer and Lead Singer proud. However he just couldn't get the drum track right.

    Brendon was getting really fustrated with Dave A and a loud argument ensued.

    To both Dave A and Brendon O'Brien's surprize...Phil Collins, successful solo artist and famous singer/ drummer for the band Genesis was next door in the other studio recording another in a series of horrifcally mediocre solo albums that he had become known for at this particular stage of his career.

    Phil Collins while meditating, heard the comotion going on in the next studio.

    Pounded loudly on the wall and shouted

    "YOU GUYS ARE WRECKING MY VIBE"!!

    Out of respect to Phil Collins, Brendon and Dave decided to calm down and give the drum track another go.

    But...Dave once again blew the track and once again an argument ensued

    Brendon started being a real dickhead and warned Dave A that if he didn't get the drums right on this next take that "Perhaps they would have to get Phil Collins to come in and drum on this track"

    This smart ass comment really pissed Dave A off and the drummer charged Brendon and the 2 men got into a violent scuffle.

    Phil Collins fed up that his meditation was being ruined, burst into the studio and broke up the fight.

    Dave A. got up, pushed Phil Collins aside, and then stormed out of the studio crying and went home.

    Brendon was fustrated.

    Time was becoming a major issue and he desperately needed the drum track to be completed and mixed.

    But of course, without a drummer...this was going to be very difficult.

    Brendon out of complete desperation pleaded for Phil Collins to get behind the kit and complete the ending of the song.

    Phil refused at first but soon conceded upon the enticing promise of the world famous "Brendon O' Brien Neck Massage".

    Phil got behind the drums and Brendon went into the control room to record Phil.

    The track was going better than expected when all of sudden, just as Phil was finishing up...Eddie walked into the control room.

    Eddie was furious

    Eddie: "BRENDON, WHAT THE FUCK IS GOING ON HERE"??
    "WHERE THE HELL IS DAVE A, AND WHO THE FUCK IS THIS BALD GUY"?

    Brendon: "Eddie, I'm sorry Dave couldn't hack it, so we got Phil Collins to..."

    Eddie: "PHIL FUCKING COLLINS"??? "PHIL FUCKING COLLINS...BRENDON"??

    Eddie then stormed into the studio and pointed his finger at Phil Collins...

    Phil scared shitless, threw his drum sticks against the wall and ran from the studio.

    Amazingly enough, upon playback of the recorded Phil Collins drum track, the band was shockingly satisfied with the track and deemed it to be "Total Pro" as well as "the finest drum take of the session".

    The track despite the drum sticks thrown against the wall was called "a keeper" and so the Phill Collins drum take actually ended up on the Vs. Album.

    Neither Phil Collin's or Dave A were ever told of this.

    Ever since Dave A's departure from the band, it has been a running joke between Brendon O' Brien and the remaining members of Pearl Jam that when a drum track is not going as planned that they all share a hardy laugh over the comment:

    "Where is Phil Fucking Collins When You Need Him" :)

    you had me going there until the fight part. Very funny. Phil fucking Collins
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    ridleyridley Posts: 164
    1/2 Empty wrote:
    I always heard it was this guy.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YouX-PdWQIY

    I always heard it was THIS guy.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TnzFRV1LwIo&feature=related

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    SENROCKSENROCK Posts: 10,736
    At the end of the song, you hear drum sticks falling to the ground. A friend of mine told me that this was Dave's last song that he recorded with the band and when it was over, he slammed the sticks and walked out.

    Is this true or was he just rockin' the hell out?

    Those drumsticks at the end are great! To me its as if they said yup we nailed this song now whatchu know about THAT son! :D
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    bigbadbillbigbadbill Posts: 1,758
    The drum sticks appear at 0:10-0:09 left remaining.
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    also...after he threw the drum sticks against the wall...

    he punched a hole through his snare (head), and threw the snare off the cliff next to the studio.

    neither segment was recorded (unfortunately), but this is true
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    iamicaiamica Chicago Posts: 2,628
    also...after he threw the drum sticks against the wall...

    he punched a hole through his snare (head), and threw the snare off the cliff next to the studio.

    neither segment was recorded (unfortunately), but this is true

    That's the story I heard too. Dave A. was so frustrated after the take that he punched a hole in his snare drum and flung it off a cliff.
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    youngsteryoungster Boston Posts: 6,574
    iamica wrote:
    That's the story I heard too. Dave A. was so frustrated after the take that he punched a hole in his snare drum and flung it off a cliff.

    Yeah, I read about this whole part in Kim Neely's book Five Against One.
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    Gonzo1977Gonzo1977 Posts: 1,696
    iamica wrote:
    That's the story I heard too. Dave A. was so frustrated after the take that he punched a hole in his snare drum and flung it off a cliff.

    Also...

    That same snare drum...landed on, and crashed through, the sun roof of Phil Collins house below

    Killing his cat "Buster".

    I guess it's safe to say that Phil Collins is not a fan of Pearl Jam
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    Haha, looking to start writing PJ fan fics?
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    Gonzo1977 wrote:
    Also...

    That same snare drum...landed on, and crashed through, the sun roof of Phil Collins house below

    Killing his cat "Buster".

    I guess it's safe to say that Phil Collins is not a fan of Pearl Jam

    Someone is going to go post that on the ultimate-guitar forums now.
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    Gonzo1977Gonzo1977 Posts: 1,696
    Yeah.

    I could honestly see this thing getting out of control.

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    I always wanted to find that cliff and look for the drum at the bottom of it. Probably not there 15 years later, but that's what I think of every time I hear that story.
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