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women need a miracle whip

john girljohn girl Posts: 308
edited May 2004 in Poetry, Prose, Music & Art
because when a man never has the time to listen to a woman,

because when a man never has the time to love a woman,

because when a man never has the time to hold a woman,

then ALL is truly lost, when a man makes time for war,
when a man makes time for money, when man makes time for only himself...


and I haven't yet met a man who wasn't in it for himself to fuck me...


Is this what men want? For me and other women (may agree?)
to lose ALL faith in what man really could be???

I think men don't want to know love,
and I pray I am wrong,
then All isn't quite gone...
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  • DopeBeastieDopeBeastie Posts: 2,513
    oooh, ouch ouch, and double ouch....

    maybe you're just extremely fuckable?


    no no... i'm kidding

    BUT... superlatives hold little if any truth


    i had a man like that
    he's gone now
    i was the dork for putting up with it
    and he? he was just lucky...

    there are many many many FINE men in this world
    go find you one :D
  • VedderGirl27VedderGirl27 Posts: 69
    Damn, john girl! Lots of anger there. I sooooo feel that way too! I'm SICK of men.
    There ARE good men out there, Pasta Nazi? Where???? And why the hell can't I find one? I need help, damn it! Thought I found one on here, but that went to hell. :(
    Grrrrr!!! I give up!
    There was a whole inside his soul a manicure couldn't fill. So he found himself a whore to love while daisies choked in the windowsill. *JK*
  • Being EnlightenedBeing Enlightened Posts: 5,746
    Originally posted by john girl
    because when a man never has the time to listen to a woman,

    because when a man never has the time to love a woman,

    because when a man never has the time to hold a woman,

    then ALL is truly lost, when a man makes time for war,
    when a man makes time for money, when man makes time for only himself...


    and I haven't yet met a man who wasn't in it for himself to fuck me...


    Is this what men want? For me and other women (may agree?)
    to lose ALL faith in what man really could be???

    I think men don't want to know love,
    and I pray I am wrong,
    then All isn't quite gone...

    SO heartfelt, john girl! Although I enjoy many of your 7 7 7 poems, I have to say that this is my favorite piece yet because it shows such raw emotion and I love when people really tap in and rip their hearts out and lay them on the page!

    "a good heart these days is hard to find
    true love, the lasting kind
    a good heart these days is hard to find
    SO PLEASE BE GENTLE WITH THIS HEART OF MINE" - I can't remember who sang it but I thought the words seemed fitting.

    Oh, john girl! May you find a true heart! My love to you!

    ps. Hope your brother's doing okay!
    Forget your perfect offering, there is a crack in everything, that's how the light gets in. - Leonard Cohen
  • DopeBeastieDopeBeastie Posts: 2,513
    Originally posted by VedderGirl27
    Pasta Nazi? Where???? Thought I found one on here, but that went to hell. :(


    hmmmm....

    my thinking is that "here" can be an excellent place to find "one" cuz you get to learn their way of thinking at a distance of infinity... sometimes... if they're open enough... then you have to, or get to tackle the physical, after which EVERYTHING changes, or doesn't change at all...

    i think most importantly, though, is to maintain a healthy sense of humor and a thinking that, if it doesn't work out, at the very least you've enjoyed a connection of some importance, and that you've been blessed to do so.

    there is a book out there

    http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/1580627560/qid=1083943154/sr=1-1/ref=sr_1_1/104-7447672-6343154?v=glance&s=books


    and the title makes 'em balk, but the principles are divine with respect to maintaining autonomy....

    it's the other side of the pendulum which, when mixed with a woman's natural instinct to nuture and care, makes for a pretty damned comfortable middle ground

    the other thing that I think is really important is to be patient, gentle on ourselves, and gentle with the other gender

    peace peace and more peace :)
  • CranMalReignCranMalReign Posts: 1,928
    I'M A GOOD MAN! I'M A GOOD MAN!!!

    But I'm taken, so you're screwed (metaphorically speaking).

    But feel free to dream of and desire me, and feel free to make me aware of the times you do.
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  • nailz100nailz100 Posts: 1,176
    I have time for all of the things you mentioned....to listen, love & hold......but somehow my queen still eludes me. I hope you are not letting one person of my gender ruin your views about the select few of us. I find I have the similar opinions about most women....more as to them not being able to speak their mind and putting up a false front or showing me a fake picture of themselves.

    And to Pastanazi....please do not take offence, but I thought you were a guy (because of your name) until I read this....people should really fill in their profiles.
    Only with our eyes closed can we truly see
  • CranMalReignCranMalReign Posts: 1,928
    Originally posted by nailz100

    And to Pastanazi....please do not take offence, but I thought you were a guy (because of your name) until I read this....people should really fill in their profiles.

    Funny thing is, I thought you were a girl. :) I didn't look up your profile, however.
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  • VedderGirl27VedderGirl27 Posts: 69
    Originally posted by PastaNazi
    hmmmm....

    my thinking is that "here" can be an excellent place to find "one" cuz you get to learn their way of thinking at a distance of infinity... sometimes... if they're open enough... then you have to, or get to tackle the physical, after which EVERYTHING changes, or doesn't change at all...

    i think most importantly, though, is to maintain a healthy sense of humor and a thinking that, if it doesn't work out, at the very least you've enjoyed a connection of some importance, and that you've been blessed to do so.

    there is a book out there

    http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/1580627560/qid=1083943154/sr=1-1/ref=sr_1_1/104-7447672-6343154?v=glance&s=books


    and the title makes 'em balk, but the principles are divine with respect to maintaining autonomy....

    it's the other side of the pendulum which, when mixed with a woman's natural instinct to nuture and care, makes for a pretty damned comfortable middle ground

    the other thing that I think is really important is to be patient, gentle on ourselves, and gentle with the other gender

    peace peace and more peace :)
    Ha! I like the name of that book. I've been accused more than once by my soon-to-be-ex-husband of being a bitch. Of course, his idea of a bitch is not agreeing with everything he says. Heaven forbid if I have my own opinion. So if that's being a bitch, then I'm a bitch. I always tried so hard to balance myself between independent, strong, yet still being kind & patient with him. Take care of him. He's a hard core alcoholic though, so I could have literally been perfect yet it wouldn't have been enough. I went from that to someone I met on here who was totally different than my husband. Very open, thoughtful, kind. I was immediately drawn to him. We got really close. Talked for hours & hours everyday. We did get to meet in person several times, & things were really good. But there were problems. Really bad timing for one. He's younger than me, still in college. I have kids, he's not ready for a family. We live over 500 miles apart. Guess it was just too much on him. Really sucks too, cause I thought he might have been the "one". But I've been royally screwed by 2 totally different men, guess that's why I have doubts if there are any truly good ones anywhere.
    Thanks for the advise though. I just might buy that book. Couldn't hurt, right?
    There was a whole inside his soul a manicure couldn't fill. So he found himself a whore to love while daisies choked in the windowsill. *JK*
  • VedderGirl27VedderGirl27 Posts: 69
    Originally posted by nailz100
    I have time for all of the things you mentioned....to listen, love & hold......but somehow my queen still eludes me. I hope you are not letting one person of my gender ruin your views about the select few of us. I find I have the similar opinions about most women....more as to them not being able to speak their mind and putting up a false front or showing me a fake picture of themselves.
    Well, I sure as hell don't have a problem speaking my mind. And if a someone doesn't like me for who I am, fuck 'em. I know in my heart there are good, decent men in the world. I just wonder if I personally will ever come across one. And I wonder how many times I'll be fooled again thinking I HAVE found a good one, like I thought this last time, but he turns out to be like one or both of my ex's. Selfish, selfish, selfish. They were very different in a lot of ways, but when it came down to it, in the end, they both put themselves first. I'm just so tired of it I guess. Tired of giving so much & getting very little back.
    There was a whole inside his soul a manicure couldn't fill. So he found himself a whore to love while daisies choked in the windowsill. *JK*
  • john girljohn girl Posts: 308
    just had a bad day all around yesterday-
    with the people I have in my daily real life, and with a heightened sensitivity, and a self loathing I have, all this combined, I got to get it out-

    I have trouble verbally communicating with those people in my life, how lonely I feel at times, because I am afraid that they will think I am a complete nut case, if I tried to explain which at times there aren't the words, (and I mean that literally) as to my perceptions. Does anyone know what I mean?

    And this perception, can really fuck with your head sometimes, but all I know and can hear within myself is to continue with poetry being the center or eye of my life and let keep expanding the world around me.
  • john girljohn girl Posts: 308
    ~healing~




    Men

    have tried to kill me

    have raped me

    have left me

    they did steal from me

    called me stupid,

    and loved the other girls
    in my bed

    (don't ever shuush me, again)
    he thinks he is smarter

    some men,
    I will forget

    and forgive them,
    some men
  • VedderGirl27VedderGirl27 Posts: 69
    Originally posted by john girl
    just had a bad day all around yesterday-
    with the people I have in my daily real life, and with a heightened sensitivity, and a self loathing I have, all this combined, I got to get it out-

    I have trouble verbally communicating with those people in my life, how lonely I feel at times, because I am afraid that they will think I am a complete nut case, if I tried to explain which at times there aren't the words, (and I mean that literally) as to my perceptions. Does anyone know what I mean?

    And this perception, can really fuck with your head sometimes, but all I know and can hear within myself is to continue with poetry being the center or eye of my life and let keep expanding the world around me.
    I know EXACTLY what you mean. I have soooo felt that way a lot lately. Today's been really bad. Been having a real hard time controling my thoughts & emotions today for some reason. I feel really alone quite often. I absolutely hate this. Fucking men, I swear. (No offense to any guy who reads this. I'm more referring to the ones in my life.) Anyway, I really hope you're feeling better today, john girl. I'm fucking determined to have a better day tomorrow.
    There was a whole inside his soul a manicure couldn't fill. So he found himself a whore to love while daisies choked in the windowsill. *JK*
  • john girljohn girl Posts: 308
    you are special,
    know one can take that away from you,

    those guys let's refer to them as fur trappers, that's all they are fur trappers

    and that reference has nopthing to do with one of my all time fav bands the psychedelic furs~
  • john girljohn girl Posts: 308
    I feel it in front of me
    I hear it on the wind
    it is beating my heart
    the past
    of something,
    I have lived,
    a tribe, so much further on
    than they could kill,
    another fragment is falling back into it's place
    past and present
    the future is taking shape,
    and I am a little terrified,
    of it's power,
    how its mysterious
    draws its bend,
    we are cloth
    whom
    the spirit mends
    the spirit mends
  • john girljohn girl Posts: 308
    needs a hurricane this summer,

    board them windows up...
  • john girljohn girl Posts: 308
    cylindrical shape of 6

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