Hey all...

setaside2setaside2 Posts: 1,084
wellllll...

that ended about as can be expected. and I have to tell you, I am sorry to see my thread go in that manner. but moreso, I am ashamed and sorry that it got to that point. For those of you who witnessed the spectacle this morning and last night, I apologize.

If there are any of you left who have a shred of respect for me after all this and wish to have copies of the poetry in that thread, please let me know, for I am going to ask for its deletion. It is currently in the top 10 longest running threads on this forum, and to me is a form of historical tract of my life over the past year. I cannot leave it alone. I have been told that perhaps I overexposed myself in an electronic area that does not allow for such things, and if that is so, I am going to accept that.

What we write here...

well I suppose that for those of you who write, it needs no explanation. If, however, you feel that it does, there is a thread way back in the system by Radar Baba O'Riley called Poetry Is...

and it will tell you all about what poetry is supposed to be. I have to go back, occasionally, to be reminded, for sometimes it feels as though the pen has been taken from me and I have to reason as to why it was that someone else felt to use me as their dream conduit... and it always works.

I had forgotten my place in that, and for this I am deeply sorry. And also for allowing the negativity to overflow.

However, I will state to those young poets out here, and I see a lot of new faces around that I am not familiar with...

Stand for your work. Stand for yourselves. Regardless. If you write to emote, to expose, then you write to liberate. It is your personal freedom and it is worth all the sacrifice such things entail. By doing so, your ascension and transcendence will be the key to many others'.

I give you the Narnian door to walk through. What you find on the other side will depend heavily upon your abilities to discern surreality and abstract from ethereality and the real. I hope it is what you are looking for, and I hope you find it within.

thank you all for the inspiration. I hope that I have, in my time, at least given back in a like manner.

And most especially to the originals... i love you all. Thank you. and good night. for now.

setaside2 06-22-2004 21:49
I'm stepping in front of the gushing hydrant in a hurricane. I'd like to see the traction I keep.
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  • setaside2setaside2 Posts: 1,084
    oh and p.s.

    I don't expect any response to this... sincerely.

    I know that i lost credence and trust and that I am no longer worthy of a lot of respect.

    I am not asking for these things.

    I just wanted to let you all know how i felt, that is all.

    thanks for your time.

    contact me if you need. they are not hidden.
    I'm stepping in front of the gushing hydrant in a hurricane. I'd like to see the traction I keep.
  • ISNISN Posts: 1,700
    the morning after the day before....fuk!!!!
    ....they're asking me to prove why I should be allowed to stay with my baby in Australia, because I'm mentally ill......and they think I should leave......
  • suedesuede Posts: 247
    at least the thread was not deleted and only locked.
    there are some VERY good writers on here; i hope everyone writes for themselves and not for anyone else. there have been a number of times when i've read something and wished i had written it...but i write like me, and i'm happy with that.
    i think i was an original way back when, like years ago...and last year...but all the board switches were hard to keep up with. i continued to read the board over the years, even when i was not registered...and now i'm back...and i'm glad i came back, but there are way too many head games on here, and too many people that are too many people. for the honest writers on here, like yourself, it leaves a bit too much open...we're too vulnerable.
    it's nice to read posts from Finsy that keep things sane. anyway...just me and my thirty-one cents...
  • ISNISN Posts: 1,700
    all the fakers...
    the takers....
    the I'll bet on the lakers...
    the breakers
    on Singer
    where everyone rings
    with falsity
    palsy
    destroying their fingers
    the ringers.....the cowboys
    the miami dolphins
    my dopamine levels
    are reaching their limit
    I cain't take the world
    and the fakes that are in it....
    a minute ago....
    I was happy and blithe....
    but then I remembered
    that they're on for the ride....
    for the rolling manhauling....
    incredibly hiding their malevolence
    while they sit on the fence
    and I swing and I swipe
    and their blood I do wipe
    off the floor where they've spillt it
    I wipe off their sweat
    from my body
    they are anomaly
    they are wrong
    and they're strong
    and it takes me to win it
    the round has just started
    so let us begin it.....
    when they foam and they fume
    and they check their equipment
    I'll be there in their gloom
    to remind them they whipped it
    the last chance that they had
    they're so chancey the gardener.....
    I would throw them a little.....
    but I'll throw them much farther
    than the limits they know to their slow
    clicking tick-tocks.....
    jus throw in the towel
    you men in grey frocks
    ....they're asking me to prove why I should be allowed to stay with my baby in Australia, because I'm mentally ill......and they think I should leave......
  • setaside2setaside2 Posts: 1,084
    suede...

    I could never be anything but honest... it would have been an injustice to my work, and to the work that all these people put forth in efforts to know themselves and others.

    but it was a vulnerability, though that is a risk any writer takes the moment they say, hey, read this, tell me what you think...

    because it really means, hey, within the margins of the paper upon which this text is written is a small and quiet version of self subliminally set. your opinion of this piece, which I tore my heart out for and endeavored for, venturing into ever deepening waters during the quickening night, your opinion will dictate to me your end consideratoin of who I am and what I mean to you. Cosmically, celestially, whither else.

    I know that tremulous first time. All too well.

    Honesty with self will continue the trend, I think.
    I'm stepping in front of the gushing hydrant in a hurricane. I'd like to see the traction I keep.
  • ISNISN Posts: 1,700
    c'mon ball breakers....we got us some fakers
    ....they're asking me to prove why I should be allowed to stay with my baby in Australia, because I'm mentally ill......and they think I should leave......
  • setaside2setaside2 Posts: 1,084
    sigh... dammit ISN, go elsewhere. please. I do not want this thread locked as well.

    take time to read that OTHER locked thread. you won't find a single shred of dishonesty in it. ALL OF YOU READ IT.

    i do not fake. it is not worth my time. and neither is it worth yours. so please, stop finding figments in two dimensions.

    I pity your anger for its power could be turned so much to the greater good.

    I am no longer to be baited. I said my pieces and they are now forever enshrined there, for better or for worse. It is going to be convo or poetry.

    and I will prefer the proetic pome, as usual.
    I'm stepping in front of the gushing hydrant in a hurricane. I'd like to see the traction I keep.
  • ISNISN Posts: 1,700
    I'm only joshing you....c'mon where's yoru sense of hummus...? c'mon....laugh it off......:D
    ....they're asking me to prove why I should be allowed to stay with my baby in Australia, because I'm mentally ill......and they think I should leave......
  • suedesuede Posts: 247
    some people on here only know how to fake who they are or they are just plain farked up. trust no one.
  • ISNISN Posts: 1,700
    I'm fukkin crazeee.....whadya want a 10 page disclaimer?

    / I am bob today....I wrote like the fukkin lunatic that he is.....this is great......I was bob today.....it's my birthday next week......all things are working out well.......
    ....they're asking me to prove why I should be allowed to stay with my baby in Australia, because I'm mentally ill......and they think I should leave......
  • setaside2setaside2 Posts: 1,084
    LOL how true... the normals are the ones to be feared for there are no statistic means in the writing community....

    but then, seriously, who have you met in this world that ISN'T messed up?

    nobody, that's who.

    I'll trust, but on a limited basis.

    It's funny, you know, because on that "other" thread (we'll observe the elven tradition of not mentioning the names of those who've died), I was talking about dying for people. Such things don't require trust. it's true. Fate and destiny don't require faith. They just happen, just like that.

    and ISN, if you think that reason of insanity is a disclaimer or a voucher waiving responsibility for what has been said or done, you got another thing coming with me.

    Ever met a serial killer? yeah. nuts to the core, most of them. and yet they get away with what they do by a series of very carefully planned choices and events, so that they do not get caught because they KNOW what they are doing is considered wrong by the majority of the populous they so unwillingly live within. It isn't wrong to THEM, oh hell no, they're doing the lord a service, or showing someone the strength of their love (with a divine hammer), or merely looking to finally make a friend permanently.

    yet they are responsible.

    you make your choices and so do I... it is life.

    but here we're just talkin', alright?
    I'm stepping in front of the gushing hydrant in a hurricane. I'd like to see the traction I keep.
  • suedesuede Posts: 247
    dude...you're falling for it all over again. just stop, man. it's not worth your time.
    peace....
  • ISNISN Posts: 1,700
    ur as crazee as a mohican....u understand things.....I'd sweeten this with a qualifier......but quality died last week.....and now we only have 'the words that I speak....'......farm from being lost...you can all look forward to being tossed on my trampoline.......you're fukkin as crazy as......sally masie murphy......and if it weren't for the temporal limits of space......I know I can outpace you.......and race you.....and that's what everyone wants......some racing in the morning.....
    ....they're asking me to prove why I should be allowed to stay with my baby in Australia, because I'm mentally ill......and they think I should leave......
  • Originally posted by setaside2
    suede...

    I could never be anything but honest... it would have been an injustice to my work, and to the work that all these people put forth in efforts to know themselves and others.

    but it was a vulnerability, though that is a risk any writer takes the moment they say, hey, read this, tell me what you think...

    because it really means, hey, within the margins of the paper upon which this text is written is a small and quiet version of self subliminally set. your opinion of this piece, which I tore my heart out for and endeavored for, venturing into ever deepening waters during the quickening night, your opinion will dictate to me your end consideratoin of who I am and what I mean to you. Cosmically, celestially, whither else.

    I know that tremulous first time. All too well.

    Honesty with self will continue the trend, I think.

    Some bad faith there if you ask me. Sartre would be confused at your statements. Any good existentialist would tell you that others' verson of who you are is inconsequential.

    Whatever you see yourself as is what you are or what you will become because you have the power to make choices affecting your life and the lives of those around you.
    Liberal Douchebags that Blame Bush for Everything are Useless Pieces of Trash. I Shit on You.
  • setaside2setaside2 Posts: 1,084
    the funny thing about Sartre though, is that he was constantly looking for verification of his statements.

    his was the greatest irony.

    ask Camus. Or even Kafka.. there you go.

    I never claimed to be an existentialist, however. I am much more of a taoist if anything.. .unfortunately tempered by a western upbringing that I am constantly in battle with.

    i am all about the causal fractal effect of choice, and its ever expanding radium.

    I have watched it all my life.

    It is one of the reasons why I write, other than the fact that I am driven to it instinctually, spiritually. I have to do it, or I die LOL. Pretty simple. That's that.

    Sartre, Bertrand, Hume... all smart enough to find A key, but only one apiece. Confused on the rest of things, in my h.o.

    aren't we all tho?
    :D
    it's part of the fun in being human.
    I'm stepping in front of the gushing hydrant in a hurricane. I'd like to see the traction I keep.
  • I suppose human and confusion could be synonyms, but it seems mankind is constantly trying to make himself unconfused by organizing this world. To me, he will never organize this world perfectly, but if he does, that will be the end of this world.

    That may be why science constantly disappoints me.

    Good to meet you, setaside, and good luck with your slightly apparent troubles.
    Liberal Douchebags that Blame Bush for Everything are Useless Pieces of Trash. I Shit on You.
  • ISNISN Posts: 1,700
    apparently slight troubles.....

    good luck to all and one.......and if I'm your undoing how you come undone......then still.....good luck to all and one.....I won a long time ago
    ....they're asking me to prove why I should be allowed to stay with my baby in Australia, because I'm mentally ill......and they think I should leave......
  • setaside2setaside2 Posts: 1,084
    HA! I completely agree with human's attempts to control their environment and how they will become increasingly futile as, due to their multiple attempts and their limited ability to control multitasking, their environment will become inadvertantly, though naturally, uncontrollable. Humans will evolve themselves into extinction. LOL it's the grandest of all ironies in my book! And the most predictable!

    Science constantly disappoints me because it's vision is ever so narrow, so low scope. If they had any imagination among them, any true dreamers left with the ability to influence those closed sighted mothers in charge, we'd be much further along.

    Enlightenment, on the other hand, is a whole other story LOL.

    And as for my apparent troubles, master Hero, they are but trifles, in the cosmic scheme of things. We will all move on. this river flows faster in its relevance to age, you know.
    I'm stepping in front of the gushing hydrant in a hurricane. I'd like to see the traction I keep.
  • ISNISN Posts: 1,700
    I put a plug in you
    ....they're asking me to prove why I should be allowed to stay with my baby in Australia, because I'm mentally ill......and they think I should leave......
  • setaside2setaside2 Posts: 1,084
    your aim was poor, I'm afraid.
    I'm stepping in front of the gushing hydrant in a hurricane. I'd like to see the traction I keep.
  • DopeBeastieDopeBeastie Posts: 2,513
    lol...


    umm...
  • ISNISN Posts: 1,700
    still, the effort counts for something.....

    / I'm only kidding you.....you're such a tease
    ....they're asking me to prove why I should be allowed to stay with my baby in Australia, because I'm mentally ill......and they think I should leave......
  • setaside2setaside2 Posts: 1,084
    my friend, all efforts count.



    in burned caloric values.


    it is a matter of pride, of course. but my, how thin we be?


    not thin enough, I read.
    I'm stepping in front of the gushing hydrant in a hurricane. I'd like to see the traction I keep.
  • ISNISN Posts: 1,700
    fuk off moron....you read like you're rowing back to life.....from your sojourn,.......well, life don't want you anymore.......go sway on the seashore.....of nivvir....I'll undo you.....yeah mate...strew you all over the beeeetch//////
    ....they're asking me to prove why I should be allowed to stay with my baby in Australia, because I'm mentally ill......and they think I should leave......
  • setaside2setaside2 Posts: 1,084
    Originally posted by ISN
    fuk off moron....you read like you're rowing back to life.....from your sojourn,.......well, life don't want you anymore.......go sway on the seashore.....of nivvir....I'll undo you.....yeah mate...strew you all over the beeeetch//////

    HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

    teach me to swim o mighty warrior. show me the oar with which you row your tiki craft. and all life is the sojourn, my dearest, one from shore to shore. the shore of never, indeed. Death comes for us all.

    I fear you not. Pure comedy. Sincerely. Take your sea urchins elsewhere, I understand that they soften in boiling water.

    good luck with the sand in your shorts.

    Isaac Asimov once said that sand was a living creature, if so, it awaits our return to the far shore with hunger.

    Pillars of salt, my friends. Pillars of salt.
    I'm stepping in front of the gushing hydrant in a hurricane. I'd like to see the traction I keep.
  • ISNISN Posts: 1,700
    u'll find me stronger than you can possibly envisage.....I'm takin the world and changin my visage......I've got the wrold tied up in knots already.....who do you think you are?
    ....they're asking me to prove why I should be allowed to stay with my baby in Australia, because I'm mentally ill......and they think I should leave......
  • setaside2setaside2 Posts: 1,084
    now, now wait a minute, hang on a second here...

    it takes little strength to change a visage and tie the world in knots, or at least merely the strength it takes to lie. anyone can shift a paradigm, just ask a lego-man.

    I am who I am. isn't that how I'm supposed to answer that question?

    we are all strong, lady. please don't underestimate that which you do not know.

    and I can envision a lot.

    try me <cocks eyebrow>

    it's my job, see.
    I'm stepping in front of the gushing hydrant in a hurricane. I'd like to see the traction I keep.
  • ISNISN Posts: 1,700
    I've already beaten.....yuo....like eggs for breakfast
    ....they're asking me to prove why I should be allowed to stay with my baby in Australia, because I'm mentally ill......and they think I should leave......
  • setaside2setaside2 Posts: 1,084
    tis a good thing I am allergic to eggs...

    I wasn't even there when it went down.

    can't have beaten me too badly then, huh?

    LOL

    ISN, where oh where does this four year old of yours appear from?

    I think it is time to end this.
    I'm stepping in front of the gushing hydrant in a hurricane. I'd like to see the traction I keep.
  • DopeBeastieDopeBeastie Posts: 2,513
    Originally posted by ISN
    u'll find me stronger than you can possibly envisage.....
    I'm takin the world and changin my visage......
    I've got the wrold tied up in knots already.....
    who do you think you are?
    Helen Ready?


    a hip, hop, hibby, a hibby to the hip hip hopping you don't stop rocking to the bang bang boogy say up jump the boogy to the rhythm of the rhythm to beat




    LOL


    farcicular, duuuuude
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