children's bill of rights - 4 u SPARK

lifeisworthlifeisworth Posts: 186
edited September 2003 in Poetry, Prose, Music & Art
Bill of Rights
1.The Right to know that I am loved unconditionally.
2.The Right to know that I did'nt cause my parents
divorce.
3. The Right to know what caused the divorce.
4.The Right to the security of knowing where I will
live and who I will live with.
5.The Right to be aware of how stress affects my life
and how I can adapt to it in a healthy way.
6.The Right to be a kid and not to be afraid of being
myself.
7.The Right to have the guarantee that my physical and
emotional needs will be met.
8.The Right not be a victim of the past marriage and
not to be used as a pawn between my parents.
9.The right to have my own space for privacy to ensure
respect of my person.
10.The Right to have a normal household routine and
discipline to warrant a sense of security.
11.The Right to possess positive images of my parents
so
that I can love each parent equally.
12.The Right to have access and time with each parent
equally.



you hurt yourself when you hurt the girl to hurt me...
you will have to answer for your actions
to her, not me...


there are numerous resources out there to guide you in child care, but common sense is that SHE gets to be the kid... YOU have to be the grown up...


fucking good luck


this item #12 on the list above...
keep hurting her and you will leave me no choice, no sane parenting choice to restrict that as i can...

i am a damn good parent and you know it
the books i've read
the care i've taken...
Nosotros nunca escuchamos la voz adentro
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  • wow.. heard of email? phone maybe?
  • its called venting.


    good post, life.

    xo
    "Life is a wonderful thing - don't let anyone keep you from enjoying it."
    ---PureandEasy

    *****

    "A little voice Inside my head said, "Don't look back. You can never look back." --Don Henley

    *****
    ...thank you for a funk-ay time...

    *****

    "there i go, turn the page..."
    --Bob Segar & Metallica

    "You’re a butterfly
    And butterflies are free to fly" - EJ



  • Wish my parent had adhered! Good luck! Take care!
    Forget your perfect offering, there is a crack in everything, that's how the light gets in. - Leonard Cohen
  • JDE-PJJDE-PJ Posts: 721
    sorry life:(


    hope the person you made this for, reads it and learns from it.
    I know someday you will have a beautiful Life


    Jason
  • no child

    i've never heard of email
    or the telephone
    Nosotros nunca escuchamos la voz adentro
  • I think you forgot a couple, life:

    The Right to put soda pop in the microwave.
    The Right to hold the cat by any available appendage.
    The Right to "clothing is optional."
    The Right to boycot baths.
    The Right to paint on the TV screen.
    The Right to sleep anywhere.
    The Right to pick noses.
  • setaside2setaside2 Posts: 1,084
    lifeisworth, I have missed talking to you a great deal.

    And now you have to deal with this situation. I cannot tell you how angry it makes me for you and with you. I am hoping that as my wife and I move forward with our divorce that this will never happen.

    My parents pulled this crap 24/7. Now that we are all 18 and older (me: 26 bro:22 sis:18) we have told the both of them that is has gotten OLD and that YES it is time for them to notice that their children have grown up while they have not.

    I won't lie, it causes a chunk off the brick of respect to be removed. None of us give a fig for what our parents think of each other anymore. Truly fucking pointless.

    I wish you the best. If you need anything, email or PM me. seriously.

    setaside2
    I'm stepping in front of the gushing hydrant in a hurricane. I'd like to see the traction I keep.
  • i like half of that
    half is devine
    and half is a fire





    yes kids who go through any emotional loss of a friend
    parent pet anything need to be told the truth

    so if i screw up then i say look i am to blame regardless
    of the screw up, they learn better from honesty

    yet honestly there are times when we lose the book of
    reality and start singing i'm hot blooded check it and see

    of course that's no excuse

    i'm guilty
    convicted
  • You are addicted to the computer (fantasy world) and need help! Maybe you should get off the computer and spend some quality time with the kids!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Maybe you should stop sleeping with strangers and psycho's and spend some quality time with the kids!!!!!!!!!!!! MAYBE YOU SHOULD LOOK AT YOUR BEHAVIOR!!!!!!!!!!!!!
  • thank you your right it's good to have someone reinforce my desire to drink alchohol and right poetry to such an honest point that i turn into


    whatever it was i was last night
    convicted
  • Originally posted by spark
    You are addicted to the computer (fantasy world) and need help! Maybe you should get off the computer and spend some quality time with the kids!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Maybe you should stop sleeping with strangers and psycho's and spend some quality time with the kids!!!!!!!!!!!! MAYBE YOU SHOULD LOOK AT YOUR BEHAVIOR!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Looks like you're addicted to being a jackass.
    Grow up.
    js
    The boyz n tha hood are always hard.
  • puremagicpuremagic Posts: 1,907
    Originally posted by spark
    You are addicted to the computer (fantasy world) and need help! Maybe you should get off the computer and spend some quality time with the kids!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Maybe you should stop sleeping with strangers and psycho's and spend some quality time with the kids!!!!!!!!!!!! MAYBE YOU SHOULD LOOK AT YOUR BEHAVIOR!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Maybe you should back the fuck off. Life is about parenting and she has always come across as a damn good one. If your going to yell something, keep it on topic. ITS ABOUT THE CHILD.
    SIN EATERS--We take the moral excrement we find in this equation and we bury it down deep inside of us so that the rest of our case can stay pure. That is the job. We are morally indefensible and absolutely necessary.
  • You post here 36 times a day!!!!!!!!! Wow- sounds like you are addicted too! Get a life help is available for you.
    Peace
  • Originally posted by spark
    You are addicted to the computer (fantasy world) and need help! Maybe you should get off the computer and spend some quality time with the kids!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Maybe you should stop sleeping with strangers and psycho's and spend some quality time with the kids!!!!!!!!!!!! MAYBE YOU SHOULD LOOK AT YOUR BEHAVIOR!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    this place IS help.
    you wouldn't believe the help that can be found...the support and advice...from people that share the same problems. i found people with alcoholic husbands that were emotional abusers and power/control freaks. mine was all that wrapped into one. i needed the support so i could become an EVEN BETTER mother to my child. and it worked. maybe she's doing the same. although from what i see, she's already a damn good mom.

    its all about the kids. if you love them, you don't play with their heads, no matter WHAT is going on. end of story.
    "Life is a wonderful thing - don't let anyone keep you from enjoying it."
    ---PureandEasy

    *****

    "A little voice Inside my head said, "Don't look back. You can never look back." --Don Henley

    *****
    ...thank you for a funk-ay time...

    *****

    "there i go, turn the page..."
    --Bob Segar & Metallica

    "You’re a butterfly
    And butterflies are free to fly" - EJ



  • puremagicpuremagic Posts: 1,907
    Originally posted by spark
    You post here 36 times a day!!!!!!!!! Wow- sounds like you are addicted too! Get a life help is available for you.
    Peace


    Did those "bill of rights" hit to close to home for you? Did they bring back repressed memories or something for you to just come out attacking? Sorry about your childhood.
    SIN EATERS--We take the moral excrement we find in this equation and we bury it down deep inside of us so that the rest of our case can stay pure. That is the job. We are morally indefensible and absolutely necessary.
  • Originally posted by spark
    You post here 36 times a day!!!!!!!!! Wow- sounds like you are addicted too! Get a life help is available for you.
    Peace

    are you as much of a desperate psychotic a-hole as your overuse of exclamation points would suggest?
    I'm afraid the answer is
    'YES!!!!!!!'
    And as far as telling people here to get a life, when I go home from work tonight, there will be someone there to greet me,
    can you say that?
    js
    The boyz n tha hood are always hard.
  • Pacomc79Pacomc79 Posts: 9,404
    *there will be someone there to greet me,
    can you say that?*


    Well, Jack Daniels anyway.
    My Girlfriend said to me..."How many guitars do you need?" and I replied...."How many pairs of shoes do you need?" She got really quiet.
  • Originally posted by Pacomc79
    *there will be someone there to greet me,
    can you say that?*


    Well, Jack Daniels anyway.

    amen
    once dissolved we are free to grow...
  • don't you think you oughtta rest
    don't you think you oughtta lay you head down
    don't you think you want to sleep
    don't you think you oughtta lay your head down, tonight
    don't you think you've done enough
    oh, don't you think you've got enough, well maybe...
    you don't think there's time to stop
    there's time enough for you to lay your head down...tonight, tonight
    let it wash away
    all those yesterdays...
    what are you running from
    taking pills to get along
    creating walls to call your own
    so no one catches you
    drifting off and doing all the things
    that we all do
    let them all wash away
    all those yesterdays...
    all those yesterdays
    all those paper plates
    all those yesterdays
    you've got time, you've got time to escape
    there's still time
    it's no crime to escape
    it's no crime to escape
    it's no crime to escape
    there's still time, so escape
    it's no crime...
    all those yesterdays
    all those yesterdays
    all those yesterdays








    rearviewmirror...
    Nosotros nunca escuchamos la voz adentro
  • JDE-PJJDE-PJ Posts: 721
    Originally posted by lifeisworth
    don't you think you oughtta rest
    don't you think you oughtta lay you head down
    don't you think you want to sleep
    don't you think you oughtta lay your head down, tonight
    don't you think you've done enough
    oh, don't you think you've got enough, well maybe...
    you don't think there's time to stop
    there's time enough for you to lay your head down...tonight, tonight
    let it wash away
    all those yesterdays...
    what are you running from
    taking pills to get along
    creating walls to call your own
    so no one catches you
    drifting off and doing all the things
    that we all do
    let them all wash away
    all those yesterdays...
    all those yesterdays
    all those paper plates
    all those yesterdays
    you've got time, you've got time to escape
    there's still time
    it's no crime to escape
    it's no crime to escape
    it's no crime to escape
    there's still time, so escape
    it's no crime...
    all those yesterdays
    all those yesterdays
    all those yesterdays








    rearviewmirror...


    that's a nice song life:)
    I know someday you will have a beautiful Life


    Jason
  • puremagicpuremagic Posts: 1,907
    Of all the PJ songs, this one, All Those Yesterdays is the one song I always turn to when every thing is going wrong. It has never failed to help me get to a point where I can rationalize things out.

    Love the song as a song. Love the song for the strength it gives me.
    SIN EATERS--We take the moral excrement we find in this equation and we bury it down deep inside of us so that the rest of our case can stay pure. That is the job. We are morally indefensible and absolutely necessary.
  • setaside2setaside2 Posts: 1,084
    Alright Spark: a couple things here.

    First off, I find it very interesting that you come down here in an effort to vocally discredit, not to rebut, not to defend yourself but to verbally abuse lifeisworth publically in the one place you know she comes for refuge.

    This smacks of exactly the same sort of mind games she is speaking of in that list of kids rights up there. You need to understand that this poison and vitriol spills over your child daily, like an acid wash, and will bleach them DRY. They will crack under emotive pressure no matter where they are at, as long as it involves someone close to them, they will also be as twisted and bent in their relationships as you seem to be right at this moment. Think about that. How much is it worth to you to embarass lifeisworth, or to destroy her relationship with her kid? huh? Is it really worth your child's positive humanity? Is it worth the pain and suffering all three of you will endure in the future as your child makes choices that can only be traced back to the choices you are making right now? At what price is your vengeance, self-pity, self-worth, and righteousness sated? You tell me. But think on it first as I have more for you.

    You also attack this so-called fantasy world. Well. You are correct that I don't really have physical proof outside of a computer screen one way or the other, but there is no doubt that the breadth and width of the ideas and dreams and actions and lives posted on this board are as varied as humankind itself. I find it difficult to believe that such a thing is easy, if probable at this time, to simulate, so I am willing to suspend belief and dive right in and, LO, there be tygers in these lands. I highly suggest you take a long look around you before you barge into this place and point fingers like some sixshooter without ammunition. Because you have no ammo here. We take everything at face value and let me tell you, your first entrance was worthless, and your second impression was worse. You have no friends here until you change your fucking act and decide to maintain a level of civility, got that? No personal respect until earned. FUNNY. It sounds to me a lot like the REAL WORLD.

    Also, this accusation of sleeping with psychos. Well, I cannot speak for lifeisworth here, I have no idea nor is it any of my business to know who she is sleeping with, but it seems to me that if she has stopped sleeping with you at least, then the goal of not sleeping with psychos has at least been attained. No matter the cost.

    Everyone on here is correct. You are taking this argument further and further away from the child because for you, it isn't about the child, it's about you. It is abundantly clear. I have no doubt that you care for your child but it is not right nor is it ever appropriate to deprive a child of a given parent for reasons other than health and safety. If the child is unsafe, then by all means remove them from harm. If the child's health is in danger, then by all means nurse them properly and they shall return to wellness. But other than these two things, there are no reasonable excuses for removing a child from another parent forever.

    I would venture to say that in the heat of your rage and your confusion and your depression that you are looking for anyway possible to control the situation around you. That is so natural as to be considered commonplace and at the very least, utmost human. Let it go to the extent that you can, if only so that you realize that your child still has feelings, that they have not gone away and that they will not go away anytime soon. Next move on to other people, notably lifeisworth; she has feelings and, while they may not be at all for you (accept that, the relationship is obviously dead from what I can see), they may very well be for the child, and they may be quite deep and heartfelt. You have no right to toy with that.

    The future of that child is both yours AND lifeisworth's to command. If you cannot come to a reasonable or at least a quiet solution, you BOTH run the risk of sacrificing your own blood to your god wrath.

    There is nothing more sinful.

    Setaside2
    I'm stepping in front of the gushing hydrant in a hurricane. I'd like to see the traction I keep.
  • keven 33keven 33 Posts: 259
    i thought we were gonna write a new law here but instead we started singing yield and then we decided that marriage counseling could not help the subjects of this cruel truth that im drunk and need some privacy
    convicted
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