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jervin007jervin007 Posts: 3,181
edited November 2008 in Other Music
I recently picked up the new Ryan Adams Cd and really like it. Have I been unfairly judgmental of this guy? I always thought he was more pop oriented, but the new Cd is really impressive. If I was to look into other albums, which ones would you recommend?
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    Jeremy1012Jeremy1012 Posts: 7,170
    He's generally more country oriented than pop.

    Check out Heartbreaker and Gold from his solo records, Cold Roses with his band The Cardinals and Stranger's Almanac from his first band, Whiskeytown.

    Here are some of his best songs.

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    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zZ5xnDnRD90&feature=related
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    Meine liebeMeine liebe Posts: 203
    In my opinion he isnt pop, you'd be hard pressed to try to pin down a style for his music, as he is pretty all over the place. Seriously he changes genre every record it seems like.

    I dont have all of his records, but I wish I had more. What I do have I really like. Easy Tiger is great. I have heard Heartbreaker is awesome but I dont have it yet. Maybe read some reviews before you buy anything so you can narrow down what youre looking for style wise.
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    jamie ukjamie uk Posts: 3,812
    Run to you, Summer of 69..after that forget it.
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    catefrancescatefrances Posts: 29,003
    jamie uk wrote:
    Run to you, Summer of 69..after that forget it.

    you need to go away now. :mad:
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    gabersgabers Posts: 2,787
    jamie uk wrote:
    Run to you, Summer of 69..after that forget it.

    For the love of God you've gotta retire that joke.
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    soclosesoclose Posts: 628
    If anything I'd say the most recent two albums are more pop than any of his prior releases.

    Heartbreaker is an essential purchase. It's not my favorite (though it's up there), but I think that record gets at the essence of what Ryan is at his best.
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    itsevobabyitsevobaby Posts: 1,809
    if you like cardinology, you'll like easy tiger. since he's been with The Cardinals he's kinda been sticking to a formula, which isn't a bad thing at all if you like what he's doing. cold roses is the best thing he's done with them in my opinion.

    This is how they stack up for me:

    Love Is Hell
    Cold Roses
    Rock N Roll
    Gold
    Jacksonville City Nights
    Heartbreaker
    Easy Tiger
    Cardinology
    Demolition
    29

    To say he's consistent is an understatement; there really isn't much of a gap between best & worst so go get stuck in!! :)
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    catefrancescatefrances Posts: 29,003
    itsevobaby wrote:
    ... there really isn't much of a gap between best & worst so go get stuck in!! :)

    i agree with this.

    i have a melt down just thinking about ryan adams. love love love his music.

    might i also suggest getting a hold of the everybody knows EP. stellar versions of this is it and if i am a stranger :)
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    jamie ukjamie uk Posts: 3,812
    gabers wrote:
    For the love of God you've gotta retire that joke.


    Sorry, but I can't stop this thing we started.
    I came, I saw, I concurred.....
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    jamie ukjamie uk Posts: 3,812
    jervin007 wrote:
    I recently picked up the new Ryan Adams Cd and really like it. Have I been unfairly judgmental of this guy? I always thought he was more pop oriented, but the new Cd is really impressive. If I was to look into other albums, which ones would you recommend?



    all the education anyone needs on Ryan Adams is to know that he's not Damien Rice, and to never forget it :)
    I came, I saw, I concurred.....
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    soclosesoclose Posts: 628
    itsevobaby wrote:
    To say he's consistent is an understatement; there really isn't much of a gap between best & worst so go get stuck in!! :)

    I have to disagree, but I love the man nonetheless.

    And hey, if new listeners are impressed by Cardinology and Easy Tiger that's okay. The best is yet to be discovered in that case.
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    catefrancescatefrances Posts: 29,003
    jamie uk wrote:
    all the education anyone needs on Ryan Adams is to know that he's not Damien Rice, and to never forget it :)

    how could we ever when youre sitting here reminding us. :p

    gotta say though... woman like a man is an utterly awesome song. :)
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    jamie ukjamie uk Posts: 3,812
    catefrances wrote:
    how could we ever when youre sitting here reminding us. :p

    gotta say though... woman like a man is an utterly awesome song. :)

    he only writes that kind of song, awesome, I mean.
    I came, I saw, I concurred.....
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    jervin007jervin007 Posts: 3,181
    wow, it looks like i have some catching up to do. thanks everyone for your input!
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    2003 Mansfield: July 2
    2004 Boston: Sept 28 & 29
    2005 Montreal: Sept 15
    2006 Boston: May 24 & 25
    2008 Hartford: June 27, Mansfield: June 28,
    2010 Boston: May 17
    2013 Worcester: Oct 15, Hartford: Oct 25,
    2016 Hampton: April 18, Raleigh: April 20 (cancelled), Columbia: April 21. Quebec: May 5. Boston (Fenway): August 7

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    catefrancescatefrances Posts: 29,003
    jervin007 wrote:
    wow, it looks like i have some catching up to do. thanks everyone for your input!

    well there was that one year where ryan released 3 albums. insanity. :D
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    CobCob Posts: 857
    jervin007 wrote:
    I recently picked up the new Ryan Adams Cd and really like it. Have I been unfairly judgmental of this guy? I always thought he was more pop oriented, but the new Cd is really impressive. If I was to look into other albums, which ones would you recommend?

    His music is good, but I've heard and read interviews and he comes across as a self absorbed jerk. He did an interview here in Austin on KGSR with Jody Denberg and couldn't have been a bigger prick if he tried.
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    itsevobabyitsevobaby Posts: 1,809
    catefrances wrote:
    i agree with this.

    i have a melt down just thinking about ryan adams. love love love his music.

    might i also suggest getting a hold of the everybody knows EP. stellar versions of this is it and if i am a stranger :)
    and his cover of down in a hole! :eek:
    Look Alive,
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    catefrancescatefrances Posts: 29,003
    itsevobaby wrote:
    and his cover of down in a hole! :eek:

    well yeah... theres that too. :D
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    FinsburyParkCarrotsFinsburyParkCarrots Seattle, WA Posts: 12,223
    Really good-looking lesbian couples in their early twenties like him. This is why it is the duty of every discerning, outgoing male in his mid-thirties who knows really good-looking lesbian couples in their early twenties to carry a Ryan Adams album in his pocket, in case of social occasions.
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    catefrancescatefrances Posts: 29,003
    FinsburyParkCarrots wrote:
    Really good-looking lesbian couples in their early twenties like him. This is why it is the duty of every discerning, outgoing male in his mid-thirties who knows really good-looking lesbian couples in their early twenties to carry a Ryan Adams album in his pocket, in case of social occasions.

    and you know this how?? youre not giving away any of your mating secrets are you richard?
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    FinsburyParkCarrotsFinsburyParkCarrots Seattle, WA Posts: 12,223
    catefrances wrote:
    and you know this how?? youre not giving away any of your mating secrets are you richard?


    Secrets? I don't have any secrets, wummin. :D
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    catefrancescatefrances Posts: 29,003
    FinsburyParkCarrots wrote:
    Secrets? I don't have any secrets, wummin. :D

    well with inxs of 19 and 1/2 thousand posts it would seem nor do i. ;):)
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    FinsburyParkCarrotsFinsburyParkCarrots Seattle, WA Posts: 12,223
    catefrances wrote:
    well with inxs of 19 and 1/2 thousand posts it would seem nor do i. ;):)


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    catefrancescatefrances Posts: 29,003
    FinsburyParkCarrots wrote:
    INXS? Leave fatal door-polishin' outta this. We're talking Ryan Adams!

    yes ma'am. :p:)
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    DOSWDOSW Posts: 2,014
    I'm really not a fan of his new album, and I'm not sure why. I love Easy Tiger for the most part, but nothing on Cardinology catches my attention like songs like Goodnight Rose and Everybody Knows did. Oh well.
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    jervin007jervin007 Posts: 3,181
    Went and picked up Cold Roses. Definitely quality, better than Cardinology.
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    keeponrockinkeeponrockin Posts: 7,446
    DOSW wrote:
    I'm really not a fan of his new album, and I'm not sure why. I love Easy Tiger for the most part, but nothing on Cardinology catches my attention like songs like Goodnight Rose and Everybody Knows did. Oh well.
    I like some of the tunes on Easy Tiger better, but generally like Cardinology better!

    Either way, the man's a genious.
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    Goodfella1111Goodfella1111 Posts: 166
    Cold Roses, Easy Tiger and Cardinology have been the transformation of a junkie to a sober artist. Like someone wrote above, Ryan was a prick in an interview, Ryan was a jerk blah blah blah. He was wasted for most of his adult life. He put out 3 records in a year cause he didn't know what else do with himself besides get high and play music. Now, the guy has found a band that cares about him and he loves playing with them. He has been sober for a couple of years now I believe. I have had Cardinology on repeat all week and these songs really grow on you. The lyrics are beautiful and meaningful. Maybe it's just me, and my sentimental sort of outlook I have on life... but if you're one of those people that enjoys going back and watching St. Elmo's Fire or About Last Night every once in a while... to get that feeling of youth and such.... these lyrics will touch you and the songs will really stick with you. That's the best way I can describe the record. I'd also compare this record a lot to The Twilight Singers - Powder Burns in that if you stuck with the singer songwriter through their junkie years, you will appreciate the lyrics and music of these sober years.

    Do yourself a favor and buy Cardinology... :)
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    Cropduster84Cropduster84 Posts: 1,283
    Love Is Hell and Cold Roses are his best records in my opinion......
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    cc10106cc10106 Posts: 385
    my favorite Ryan records from top to bottom:

    Heartbreaker
    Cold Roses
    Love is Hell
    Jacksonville City Nights
    Gold
    Demolition
    Easy Tiger
    29
    Rock n Roll
    Cardinology (still pretty new to this one though)

    also, his recordings with Whiskeytown are essential, and i pretty much rank them equally:

    Pneumonia
    Stranger's Almanac
    Faithless Street
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