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MattyJoeMattyJoe Posts: 1,424
edited September 2008 in Other Music
who thinks Jack White (and The White Stripes in general) is very overrated? He has some good stuff but I don't understand why there are people who just worship him and think everything he does is good. Sometimes it's really boring.

I heard his new duet with Alicia Keys today and I think it sucks. Very boring. Doesn't really go anywhere. I mean I wouldn't have such a problem, except this song's being used in a James Bond movie. It seems like it's being chosen purely for the fact that Jack White is constantly overhyped and overrated.
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  • catefrancescatefrances Posts: 29,003
    MattyJoe wrote:
    who thinks Jack White (and The White Stripes in general) is very overrated? He has some good stuff but I don't understand why there are people who just worship him and think everything he does is good. Sometimes it's really boring.

    I heard his new duet with Alicia Keys today and I think it sucks. Very boring. Doesn't really go anywhere. I mean I wouldn't have such a problem, except this song's being used in a James Bond movie. It seems like it's being chosen purely for the fact that Jack White is constantly overhyped and overrated.

    the song from the last bond film sucked massive too. :D
    ive not heard the keys/white song but just cause jack's involved ill give it a listen when im able.
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  • samicksamick Posts: 373
    MattyJoe wrote:
    who thinks Jack White (and The White Stripes in general) is very overrated? He has some good stuff but I don't understand why there are people who just worship him and think everything he does is good. Sometimes it's really boring.

    I heard his new duet with Alicia Keys today and I think it sucks. Very boring. Doesn't really go anywhere. I mean I wouldn't have such a problem, except this song's being used in a James Bond movie. It seems like it's being chosen purely for the fact that Jack White is constantly overhyped and overrated.

    you're not the only one...........

    I'm done with the white stripes after the last album.........I can't believe any record company would want to tie their name to that album...........


    and yes the song with alicia keys does suck big hairy balls
  • hendrix78hendrix78 Posts: 507
    I'm sure you're not the only one, but I massively disagree. I think Jack White is great. When I first heard Fell In Love With a Girl, I didn't see what the big deal was. That song did nothing for me. Then I saw their week long stand on Conan O'Brien and I got it. The White Stripes are a band that bring spontinaeity and intensity back to rock n roll. THey carry the blues influence and tight but loose grooves of Zeppelin and the Stones to a new generation without being a carbon copy of the great classic rock bands. De Stijl, Elephant and Icky Thump are great, great albums. Full of great riffs and tons of soul. There is very little like what the White Stripes have to offer in modern rock.
  • Thorns2010Thorns2010 Posts: 2,201
    But why do they have the bass drum sound like hitting wet cardboard half the time?? Argh that pisses me off to no end!!!
  • Jack_C_GregoryJack_C_Gregory Posts: 540
    No, you're not the only one. I have never been a fan myself, although I am quite a big fan of the raconteurs. (My friends can't understand how I can dislike the white stripes but like the raconteurs.)
  • stu geestu gee Posts: 1,174
    I personally dont like anything ive heard by them but rating is in the ears of the listener.
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  • reeferchiefreeferchief Posts: 3,569
    I like some songs but in general find them very overated.

    And cate is it not The White Keys collaboration? haha. Yes I am a dork.
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  • PearlJamaholicPearlJamaholic Posts: 2,019
    i dont get it either.
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  • wcsmithwcsmith Posts: 165
    I've never been too impressed, either. I can't quite get used to his voice, though I will say that the guitar playing is quite good. And they are one of the few bands that has covered Captain Beefheart tunes. That's got to count for something...
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  • muiren77muiren77 Posts: 3,511
    here, here...i don't understand all the hype about him, the rancoteurs, white stripes...
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  • memememe Posts: 4,695
    I think Jack White is up there with only another handful of people in the last years as the most talented musicians.

    His riffs remind me of Zeppelin.

    I
    just
    love
    him

    He has the same perfectionism as Jimmy Page when it comes to studio and live shows, but he is all around more creative.

    Sorry :o
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  • Jeremy1012Jeremy1012 Posts: 7,170
    I don't rate Mr White at all.
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  • PaukPauk Posts: 1,084
    I think he´s talented but don´t think he´s yet written that one big song everyone will remember him for. Hopefully it´ll come eventually, he´s a great guitarist when he wants to be.
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  • stu geestu gee Posts: 1,174
    7 Nation Army is right at the top of my most hated songs list, so fucking irritating.
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  • LedZepFanLedZepFan Posts: 1,009
    i agree.. a product of the indie hype machine. jack white has his moments, but overall the white stripes were very repetitive, and the raconteurs are a very good band, but not a great one
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  • MattyJoeMattyJoe Posts: 1,424
    fowls wrote:
    I think he´s talented but don´t think he´s yet written that one big song everyone will remember him for.

    See, personally I feel like he doesn't have it in him to do that.
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  • restlesssoulrestlesssoul Posts: 6,951
    The albums that the stripes put out up to now are classics. I hope Jack leaves the stripes and uses the Racs as his new outlet. They are a great modern rock band. I like everything Jack does. He has that spirit of the old days in him.
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  • goldrushgoldrush everybody knows this is nowhere Posts: 7,640
    fowls wrote:
    I think he´s talented but don´t think he´s yet written that one big song everyone will remember him for. Hopefully it´ll come eventually, he´s a great guitarist when he wants to be.

    Seven Nation Army is a great song. If there was one song he should be remembered for it's that one.

    I love the 2nd 3rd and 4th WS albums and both the Raconteurs albums. The other WS albums have their moments but aren't really great.

    Live, he can't sing for shit and that's why he'll never be a great frontman
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  • dunkmandunkman Posts: 19,646
    a lot of folk dont rate him.. they are entitled to that opinion.. its wrong.. but they 're entitled to it nonetheless :)
    oh scary... 40000 morbidly obese christians wearing fanny packs invading europe is probably the least scariest thing since I watched an edited version of The Care Bears movie in an extremely brightly lit cinema.
  • HushBullHushBull Posts: 996
    meme wrote:
    He has the same perfectionism as Jimmy Page when it comes to studio and live shows, but he is all around more creative.

    Wait, Jimmy or Jack, who's more creative. If you are speaking of Jack being more so than Jimmy... well, you're wrong. :o
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  • memememe Posts: 4,695
    HushBull wrote:
    Wait, Jimmy or Jack, who's more creative. If you are speaking of Jack being more so than Jimmy... well, you're wrong. :o

    I said all around creative... in things other than music as well :)
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  • HushBullHushBull Posts: 996
    meme wrote:
    I said all around creative... in things other than music as well :)

    Hmmm... what else does Jackie boy do? :)
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  • pretextpretext Posts: 1,294
    I do love Seven Nation Army and got Get Behind Me Satan on the cheap, but that's about it for me. No, I don't get the hype. But then, I only have/need one Radiohead album too. :)
  • poorgirl23poorgirl23 Posts: 194
    You're not the only one, no.

    But I happen to think there's a whole lot of talent, depth, passion, creativity, and an atmosphere of history and tradition in every aspect of White's work. I'm profoundly grateful to have discovered The White Stripes a long time ago, and more recently The Raconteurs. And I'm profoundly grateful that I got to witness Jack's onstage talent and charisma yet again last night. It will never get old for me. There's a spirit and a soulfulness there that is indescribable. There's something about the way he performs that has me completely hooked, and something about the songs that he writes that make me want to dissect every note and every word. I can't stop playing those records. And I love that old-fashioned sort of vibe that he has. Very cool. That's only my opinion, of course. Sorry to gush a little much, but this is why it's up there with Pearl Jam for me.

    I understand that it's not for everyone. that's okay, because the less people feel the way I do, the better chance I have of being on the rail at every show. ;)
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  • MattyJoeMattyJoe Posts: 1,424
    meme wrote:
    I said all around creative... in things other than music as well :)

    Jimmy Page was a painter. What else does White do?
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  • keeponrockinkeeponrockin Posts: 7,446
    I think Jack is absolutley amazing in EVERYTHING he does. The White Stripes are amazing, and I think the Raconteurs are even better.

    And I saw the Stripes from the second row last year, you could feel the energuy coming off that stage, holy shit.
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  • catefrancescatefrances Posts: 29,003
    reeferchief wrote:
    I like some songs but in general find them very overated.

    And cate is it not The White Keys collaboration? haha. Yes I am a dork.

    OMG :rolleyes: yes yes you are... youre a bigger dork than i ever thought you were. least i had the smarts to just think it and NOT post it. :p:D
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  • Cropduster84Cropduster84 Posts: 1,283
    I like some of his work.....

    Love some of the guitar solos on Elephant, love the raw sound....
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  • jcmark611jcmark611 Posts: 93
    If you are in a band, play the riff to "7 Nation Army" at your next gig or party and see how many people love it. It may not do well with the over 30 crowd but, the youngsters love it!
  • catefrancescatefrances Posts: 29,003
    jcmark611 wrote:
    If you are in a band, play the riff to "7 Nation Army" at your next gig or party and see how many people love it. It may not do well with the over 30 crowd but, the youngsters love it!

    im over 30 and 7 nation army does well with me. :p:D but then again, jack white is in my "can never do wrong in my eyes box." :D i think ill be listening to little bird until the day i die. :)
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