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NWA or the Police?

jsasojsaso Posts: 179
edited July 2007 in Other Music
NWA all the way
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  • pjoasisrulepjoasisrule Posts: 3,412
    NWA obviously, The Police are one of the most overrated bands and I dont really see what all the fuss is about lately. I could care less that they are back together for another tour and I am surprised that so many people care as much as they do.
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  • OttOtt Posts: 403
    jsaso wrote:
    NWA all the way
    Fuck tha Police,
    Comin straight from the underground.
    A young nigga got it bad cause I'm brown.

    Ott
    'Give me some music; music, moody food/ of us that trade in love'
    -Shakespeare
  • Shawn Smith CollectiveShawn Smith Collective Posts: 986
    Call me when Sting writes "Fuck the NWA." But for real, Straight Outta Compton is an incredible album - its influence was immediate and sweeping, and can still be felt today.

    Even after Cube left and the subsequent records became less about social/political commentary and more about typical "gangsta" fare, Dre's level of production advanced to a point of jaw-dropping perfection!

    The Police wrote some great songs, but there's no Straight Outta Compton and no groundbreaking musical advances in their catalog.
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  • yosi1yosi1 Posts: 3,272
    pjny wrote:
    The Police wrote some great songs, but there's no Straight Outta Compton and no groundbreaking musical advances in their catalog.

    Statements like this just indicate that you need to listen to a lot more of the Police. They were ENTIRELY groundbreaking.
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  • HawkshoreHawkshore Posts: 2,160
    WTF......Unusual comparison.......Kind of like Insane Clown Posse or Neil Diamond???
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  • Shawn Smith CollectiveShawn Smith Collective Posts: 986
    yosi wrote:
    Statements like this just indicate that you need to listen to a lot more of the Police. They were ENTIRELY groundbreaking.

    They were groundbreaking in terms of the mixture of musical genres, so my statement stands corrected in its literal sense. I should have been more clear...I was referring to Dre's production changing EVERYTHING about the way rap records were produced and the lyrics on Straight Outta Compton changing everything (really, everything). The Police influenced plenty of artists, but they didn't change the landscape of an entire genre, providing the catalyst in that genre and the sub-culture it's associated with in becoming one of the largest in the world.

    So, The Police...groundbreaking? Yes. World changing? Not so much.
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  • tybirdtybird Posts: 17,388
    The Police!!!!! If I want to listen to "world changing" rap music, I'll cue up some Public Enemy or Ice-T.
    All the world will be your enemy, Prince with a thousand enemies, and whenever they catch you, they will kill you. But first they must catch you, digger, listener, runner, prince with the swift warning. Be cunning and full of tricks and your people shall never be destroyed.
  • Get_RightGet_Right Posts: 13,432
    pjoasisrule wrote:
    NWA obviously, The Police are one of the most overrated bands and I dont really see what all the fuss is about lately. I could care less that they are back together for another tour and I am surprised that so many people care as much as they do.


    That coming from an oasis fan?
    Talk about overrated
    were the police overrated before they went on tour? NO
    the tour is over hyped, but the band is the real deal

    The police were one of the first bands to take the ska/punk influence to a new level, and created a bunch of great records, including on or two masterpieces

    NWA pioneered ganster rap, but they broke up before they had a chance to truly be great, kinda like guns n roses.
  • OttOtt Posts: 403
    tybird wrote:
    The Police!!!!! If I want to listen to "world changing" rap music, I'll cue up some Public Enemy or Ice-T.
    Truth be told, although P.E. and Ice-T were influential, NWA reallty CHANGED rap music. They created a whole new genre of disrespecting hoes, busting gats, and smoking weed. Give credit where credit is due.

    Ott
    'Give me some music; music, moody food/ of us that trade in love'
    -Shakespeare
  • Matty BoyMatty Boy Posts: 421
    NWA all the way. Fuck the motherfucking Police.
  • tybirdtybird Posts: 17,388
    Ott wrote:
    Truth be told, although P.E. and Ice-T were influential, NWA reallty CHANGED rap music. They created a whole new genre of disrespecting hoes, busting gats, and smoking weed. Give credit where credit is due.

    Ott
    While I don't disrespect hoes, bust gats or smoke weed.....so I simply don't care about people who do or people who glorify it.
    All the world will be your enemy, Prince with a thousand enemies, and whenever they catch you, they will kill you. But first they must catch you, digger, listener, runner, prince with the swift warning. Be cunning and full of tricks and your people shall never be destroyed.
  • OttOtt Posts: 403
    tybird wrote:
    While I don't disrespect hoes, bust gats or smoke weed.....so I simply don't care about people who do or people who glorify it.
    Public Enemy and Ice-T are no saints, to be sure. So...

    And apparently, you couldn't see my tongue firmly planted in my cheek.

    Ott
    'Give me some music; music, moody food/ of us that trade in love'
    -Shakespeare
  • tybirdtybird Posts: 17,388
    Ott wrote:
    Public Enemy and Ice-T are no saints, to be sure. So...

    And apparently, you couldn't see my tongue firmly planted in my cheek.

    Ott
    I can't see you. :D In the words of Saint Flavor Flav," Yeahhhhh boy!!"
    All the world will be your enemy, Prince with a thousand enemies, and whenever they catch you, they will kill you. But first they must catch you, digger, listener, runner, prince with the swift warning. Be cunning and full of tricks and your people shall never be destroyed.
  • gibbitsgibbits Posts: 512
    The Police. NWA were hugely influential on rap, and I respect what they did, but we are asking personal preference. I would think the Police did start a genre - reggae infused with punk, early ska - defintely an inspiration to Sublime, Big Sugar and the like.
  • Shawn Smith CollectiveShawn Smith Collective Posts: 986
    gibbits wrote:
    reggae infused with punk, early ska - defintely an inspiration to Sublime, Big Sugar and the like.

    Could look at that and say the same about The Clash...punk infused with reggae and ska (among other things). Both debuted in 1977. In either case, they were one of the pioneers of a sound...but you can't just look back at any craters in history and say, "Wow, The Police did that!" NWA pelted the musical landscape and left it looking like the moon. NWA captivated a nation - not just its fans.
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  • Matty BoyMatty Boy Posts: 421
    The Police made music for dorky Baby Boomers and geek Gen X'rs who think they're cool. Do Do Do, Da Da Da or Fuck The Police... that's a tough decision!!
  • tobbactobbac Posts: 234
    i can respect peoples opinions....but mine lays with NWA....fuck the police is the anthem of that time....and continues to be for many...
    You ain't-never seen no one like me
    Prevail-regardless what the cost might be
    Power-flows inside of me, you can't bring me
    Never-fall as long as I try
    Refuse-to be a part of your lie
    Even-if it means I die, you can't bring me
    You...can't...bring...me...down!
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