He's just to goddamn consistant and has that wild ability to seamlessly stick very odd time signatures into songs without you noticing. I think he's worthy.. He's no Chamberlin, but he's worthy.
He's just to goddamn consistant and has that wild ability to seamlessly stick very odd time signatures into songs without you noticing. I think he's worthy.. He's no Chamberlin, but he's worthy.
Cameron is a very good, very competent drummer, and wouldn't be out of place in the top 50. He's no top 10.
you couldn't swing if you were hangin' from a palm tree in a hurricane.
Not even close, and he is the the king of seamlessly switching into random ridiculously complex time signatures. I don't think even Matt would say he is as good as him.
Side note - I think Neil should have been closer to the top ten.
you couldn't swing if you were hangin' from a palm tree in a hurricane.
I've just got out my crystal ball and will now predict the top 10 based on their selections so far. I'll be staggered if I get more than 3 right.
John Bonham
Keith Moon
Stewart Copeland
Topper Headon
Charlie Watts
Mitch Mitchell
Carl Palmer
Steve Gadd
Vinnie Colaiuta
Nick Mason
Outside bet Chad Smith?
5 out of 10, not bad, although pretty obvious choices. Moe Tucker in the top 10?? Karen Carpenter was a better drummer! Stephen Morris??? I always thought Joy Division used a drum machine until I saw a documentary on them a few years back. Bernard Purdie, as good a drummer that he is, should not qualify for a rock drummer list.
So happy to see Grant Hart on there. I love him and I love Husker Du.
His solo stuff was cool, too. 2541 will forever epitomize my first semester in college. le sigh....
It always amazes me to see videos of him pounding the shit out of those skins while singing at the same time.
not particularly a Hart highlight (although the drumming is ace) but there's a video of the Huskers' cover of Eight Miles High by the birds live at Pinkpop in '87. one of the most mindblowing vocal performances I've ever heard. Mould sounds ferocious.
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Five drummers that I think should have definitely been on that list...
Vinnie Paul Abott (Pantera)- instead of Dave Lombardo
Danny Carey (Tool)- instead of Igor Cavelera
Jon Fishman (Phish)
Bill Kreutzman (Grateful Dead)
Todd Nance (Widespread Panic)
You may not like some of those bands, but there is no denying their amazing talent!
Whoa, chill bro... you know you can't raise your voice like that when the lion's here.
I like how all the pictures were so perfessional and nice or black and white or something while Dave Grohls was a shot from the Big Me video of him making a funny face.
Where are:
Taylor Hawkins
Joey Castillo
Carl Palmer
Buddy Miles
Jim Gordon
Jim Keltner
Roger Taylor
Chad Smith
Travis Barker?
...
Why are Billy Cobham and Ginger Baker ranked so low? Why is Charlie Watts ranked so high?
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I think you'd see Cameron in the top ten if he was a little more "exotic". The guy keeps it simple (which is sometimes good) but you never really hear many exciting sounds out of him. He should really get some effects cymbals or something. A nice china would spice things upon the earlier songs and really make some ballads sound stunning.
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Classic Rock magazine did an excellent list 3 years ago of the same thing - top 50 "rock" drummers. It was an awesome read. The Classic Rock Mag list was a little more mainstream, but it was not a fan poll - it was supposedly done by experts. So people who are upset with this list will be happy to know that Mike Portnoy was, like, #12 on that list and Matt Cameron was number 34 (I do remember that exactly). Oh, and Lars Ulrich was #28 - one spot lower than Ringo (Lars sucks). Jimmy Chamberlain was somewhere in the 20's, Dave Grohl was number 2, and Bonham topped the list. Keith Moon was #3, and I believe Neil Peart was #4. Dave Lombardo was either 6 or 7. So maybe you'll like that list better.
I would have put Billy Cobham in the top 20 and wouldn't have Ringo within 1,000 miles of any best drummer list, imo.
Agreed 100%.
Also.....Charlie Watts in the top 10? I love the stones....but I can't think of one Stones song that makes me say "Fuck, Charlie Watts blew me away on that one!"
Mo Tucker of Velvet Underground? Jesus Christ.
Here's my vote for a drummer that should have made the top 10....but didn't even make the list. Tiki Fullwood of Funkadelic.
Where are:
Taylor Hawkins
Joey Castillo
Carl Palmer
Buddy Miles
Jim Gordon
Jim Keltner
Roger Taylor
Chad Smith
Travis Barker?
...
Why are Billy Cobham and Ginger Baker ranked so low? Why is Charlie Watts ranked so high?
Thank you. Agree with your post also.
And where is John Fishman of Phish? I know many of you hate Phish....but when I used to go to Phish shows, I watched him 80% of the time because he is truly amazing, creative, and the backbone of one of the greatest jam bands of all time.
And where is John Fishman of Phish? I know many of you hate Phish....but when I used to go to Phish shows, I watched him 80% of the time because he is truly amazing, creative, and the backbone of one of the greatest jam bands of all time.
Agreed. The drummer in my band can play any part from any famous song or drum solo, from Chamberlin to Grohl to Bonham... but there are a couple Phish songs where he can't even fathom even attempting them! Fishman is THE most underrated drummer of all time. He is the Jimi Hendrix of drums!!
..and yes I am also in agreement that I would be watching Fishman a lot during the 33 shows that I went to, but I don't know about 80%. I mean let's not even get started on how good Trey is on guitar, and Page on keys, and Mike on bass...
Whoa, chill bro... you know you can't raise your voice like that when the lion's here.
..and yes I am also in agreement that I would be watching Fishman a lot during the 33 shows that I went to, but I don't know about 80%. I mean let's not even get started on how good Trey is on guitar, and Page on keys, and Mike on bass...
Ok, maybe 80% was an exaggeration....but during the long jams, I'd often focus on Fishman.
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#1 John Bonham - 9 out of 10 drummers would agree...
...
I agree. Keith Moon is a very, VERY close second... but, Bonham pretty much invented the Heavy Metal drumming that everyone since then has either been influenced by... or outright try to copy.
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since neil peart isnt in the top 3 i lend no credibility to this list - lists like this are fun to discuss but rarely are they even close to being right. anyone who doesnt think peart is in the top three must never have seen him live.
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If Cameron is top 10, then the list is cracked.
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Oh my, they dropped the leash.
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Cameron is a very good, very competent drummer, and wouldn't be out of place in the top 50. He's no top 10.
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Not even close, and he is the the king of seamlessly switching into random ridiculously complex time signatures. I don't think even Matt would say he is as good as him.
Side note - I think Neil should have been closer to the top ten.
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Oh my, they dropped the leash.
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"Make our day"
Fair enough, can't argue with taste.
5 out of 10, not bad, although pretty obvious choices. Moe Tucker in the top 10?? Karen Carpenter was a better drummer! Stephen Morris??? I always thought Joy Division used a drum machine until I saw a documentary on them a few years back. Bernard Purdie, as good a drummer that he is, should not qualify for a rock drummer list.
not particularly a Hart highlight (although the drumming is ace) but there's a video of the Huskers' cover of Eight Miles High by the birds live at Pinkpop in '87. one of the most mindblowing vocal performances I've ever heard. Mould sounds ferocious.
Vinnie Paul Abott (Pantera)- instead of Dave Lombardo
Danny Carey (Tool)- instead of Igor Cavelera
Jon Fishman (Phish)
Bill Kreutzman (Grateful Dead)
Todd Nance (Widespread Panic)
You may not like some of those bands, but there is no denying their amazing talent!
Nice to see Lombardo recognized, though...
Taylor Hawkins
Joey Castillo
Carl Palmer
Buddy Miles
Jim Gordon
Jim Keltner
Roger Taylor
Chad Smith
Travis Barker?
...
Why are Billy Cobham and Ginger Baker ranked so low? Why is Charlie Watts ranked so high?
Hail, Hail!!!
I do enjoy how this list digs kinda deep, though.
Agreed 100%.
Also.....Charlie Watts in the top 10? I love the stones....but I can't think of one Stones song that makes me say "Fuck, Charlie Watts blew me away on that one!"
Mo Tucker of Velvet Underground? Jesus Christ.
Here's my vote for a drummer that should have made the top 10....but didn't even make the list. Tiki Fullwood of Funkadelic.
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Thank you. Agree with your post also.
And where is John Fishman of Phish? I know many of you hate Phish....but when I used to go to Phish shows, I watched him 80% of the time because he is truly amazing, creative, and the backbone of one of the greatest jam bands of all time.
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Agreed. The drummer in my band can play any part from any famous song or drum solo, from Chamberlin to Grohl to Bonham... but there are a couple Phish songs where he can't even fathom even attempting them! Fishman is THE most underrated drummer of all time. He is the Jimi Hendrix of drums!!
..and yes I am also in agreement that I would be watching Fishman a lot during the 33 shows that I went to, but I don't know about 80%. I mean let's not even get started on how good Trey is on guitar, and Page on keys, and Mike on bass...
Ok, maybe 80% was an exaggeration....but during the long jams, I'd often focus on Fishman.
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That was the first name that jumped out at me as being absent.
I agree. Keith Moon is a very, VERY close second... but, Bonham pretty much invented the Heavy Metal drumming that everyone since then has either been influenced by... or outright try to copy.
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... and Chamberlin should be on the top 20.
... and fuck no Tommy fucking Lee?
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