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Details on New Smashing Pumpkins Album.
Body: thanks Apolidia...
thanks PUMPKIN QUEEN most of all!!
The Future Embrace was sort of a one off experimental thing, when Billy could experiment outside of the band setting and explore some of his synth pop indulgences - TPQ didn't know if he would explore this route again in the future, but it is not indicative at all of the new album.
The new album is heavy, and they have taken it down from 50 - 25 songs to 12-14 or so?
However that doesn't mean it's a single album, but could be indicitave - however TPQ did mention that there is one insanely long and heavy song with massive drum buildups.
They are working 12 hour days 5-6(?) days a week - shje laughed that on thanksgiving weekend that because they took off the friday, they where back in on the Sunday.
Something funny she noted was Billy's utter commitment to sound, this isn't like a conventional recording. One of the reasons it is taking so long is Billy's utter dedication to finding that perfect sound - he will listen back to takes then spend 4 hours re-recording one particular facet because he wants a certain pedal hooke dup to a certain sounding guitar for only a minimal part of a song - she said she was amazed at the way he knows exactly how she wants it to sound.
The flag is not the new album cover - Billy did design it, but it's meaning is ambiguous.
They have an artist doing the cover - Banksy was considered but then rejected.
Album thematically - it still deals with the usual Billy heart/ break up songs - but has a sort of revolutionary vibe throughout it, but not blatant - there is a dissatisfaction with things are in the USA but it's not as blatant as say Green Days American idiot for example.
This album may take a while to 'get' like Machina etc - it reveals itself over time.
There are a few singles which should do well commercially, but everyone who has heard it so far is really excited, espescially the band management.
This isn't going to leak at all, it apparently isn't possible. Apparently BC leaked TFE...
If TPQ was to compare songs from the pumpkins back catalogue to ones that are on the new album she suggested one track reminded her of 'bodies' and another of 'zero'
we also saw alot of equipment pictures, but Izzle was more into that than me, so he can answers whatever.
There was a funny pic of the drum tracks for one song and it was like 20-30 tracks alone just for the drums or something, again my knowledge is vague.
Also there is apparently NO animosity between Billy and the other band members, much of that is just press bullshit apparently.
We know that the Pumpkins are playing Reading - at which point the album will be out, they will be touring Europe before the US, the album has approx 14 tracks, it is heavy with guitar solos on at least half the songs, they are rehearsing old songs as well, there is a big emphasis on organic drum sounds, the album does have 'some synths', a lot of the songs are very long, they will keep the band alive as long as they feel they are still relevant - it's not a one album deal
by the way...you can download machina II for free here:
http://www.thepumpkins.net/music/music_-_machina_ii.html
Body: thanks Apolidia...
thanks PUMPKIN QUEEN most of all!!
The Future Embrace was sort of a one off experimental thing, when Billy could experiment outside of the band setting and explore some of his synth pop indulgences - TPQ didn't know if he would explore this route again in the future, but it is not indicative at all of the new album.
The new album is heavy, and they have taken it down from 50 - 25 songs to 12-14 or so?
However that doesn't mean it's a single album, but could be indicitave - however TPQ did mention that there is one insanely long and heavy song with massive drum buildups.
They are working 12 hour days 5-6(?) days a week - shje laughed that on thanksgiving weekend that because they took off the friday, they where back in on the Sunday.
Something funny she noted was Billy's utter commitment to sound, this isn't like a conventional recording. One of the reasons it is taking so long is Billy's utter dedication to finding that perfect sound - he will listen back to takes then spend 4 hours re-recording one particular facet because he wants a certain pedal hooke dup to a certain sounding guitar for only a minimal part of a song - she said she was amazed at the way he knows exactly how she wants it to sound.
The flag is not the new album cover - Billy did design it, but it's meaning is ambiguous.
They have an artist doing the cover - Banksy was considered but then rejected.
Album thematically - it still deals with the usual Billy heart/ break up songs - but has a sort of revolutionary vibe throughout it, but not blatant - there is a dissatisfaction with things are in the USA but it's not as blatant as say Green Days American idiot for example.
This album may take a while to 'get' like Machina etc - it reveals itself over time.
There are a few singles which should do well commercially, but everyone who has heard it so far is really excited, espescially the band management.
This isn't going to leak at all, it apparently isn't possible. Apparently BC leaked TFE...
If TPQ was to compare songs from the pumpkins back catalogue to ones that are on the new album she suggested one track reminded her of 'bodies' and another of 'zero'
we also saw alot of equipment pictures, but Izzle was more into that than me, so he can answers whatever.
There was a funny pic of the drum tracks for one song and it was like 20-30 tracks alone just for the drums or something, again my knowledge is vague.
Also there is apparently NO animosity between Billy and the other band members, much of that is just press bullshit apparently.
We know that the Pumpkins are playing Reading - at which point the album will be out, they will be touring Europe before the US, the album has approx 14 tracks, it is heavy with guitar solos on at least half the songs, they are rehearsing old songs as well, there is a big emphasis on organic drum sounds, the album does have 'some synths', a lot of the songs are very long, they will keep the band alive as long as they feel they are still relevant - it's not a one album deal
by the way...you can download machina II for free here:
http://www.thepumpkins.net/music/music_-_machina_ii.html
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-Tom Waits
That's not really Smashing Pumpkins then to me.
the cure, NiN...and 100000000 other bands changed their lineups
fuck man....even the beatles had a diffrent bass player at the start
I hope James is back, but D'arcy is worthless. James is one of the more solid second guitars in rock music I think,.. I'll take Mellissa Auf Dem Maur annnnnyday over D'arcy.
Thanks for the info. I'm getting really excited about this
What's the tentative release date? May something?
http://www.wishlistfoundation.org
Oh my, they dropped the leash.
Morgan Freeman/Clint Eastwood 08' for President!
"Make our day"
well, we know that...cause their manager announced it...
Take it easy man, just my opinion, lol.
Im not too bothered about D'arcy or Melissa either, but James is a big part of the band and it'll be weird without him is all.
7/7/07
"She fell funny"
"Klaus Daimler, 40, engineer, calm, collected, German"
i'm excited...so excited...and i just can't hide it...
or...i'm so excited...i'm so excited...i'm so...scared...
from my window to yours
This is what I'm afraid of. I don't plan on spinning this album 50 times until it reveals itself and I 'get it'. If I don't like it within a few listens I'll discard it...like I did with Machina. I wish Billy would just dumb it down to fit my feeble minded brain, quit fooling around with the obscure artsy shit, and just make a fucking rocker.
I loved it at first listen anyway... it's just gotten better and better everytime I hear it since. Same with Machina II and Adore.
And when did their manager say that James wasn't involved? I've never heard anything about it..
http://www.wishlistfoundation.org
Oh my, they dropped the leash.
Morgan Freeman/Clint Eastwood 08' for President!
"Make our day"
the band realy evolved on them...
And I'm also interested to know about the rest of the band...
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