whats up with band playing same setlist every night?

SVRDhand13

i love system of a down- but how corny is it that they played the same setlist every night during last summers tour. sure it was a great show (i saw them at continental) but if youre a big fan you'd wanna see more songs live. i just dont get it.

Pearls&Stones

I know.

The only major artists I know of that change the sets are...

Pearl Jam
Dave Matthews Band
Bruce Springsteen
Phish

...are there any others?

I have also heard that Kelly Clakson of all people does as well. Say what you will about her music, I say good for her.

DaytimeDilemma

I usually hate it when bands don't change the set lists, but The Mars Volta played the same set(order diff...songs the same) for the entire 2005 Frances Tour, but every song had a different jam so it was still pretty unique.


Anyway, Radiohead also changes setlists quite often.

Milestone

Widespread Panic
Black Crowes


(you may not think they are major, but they are to me!!!)

StoneG82

Ryan Adams and the Cardinals
Wilco
Guided by Voices (when they existed)

ediger

Queens Of The Stone Age and The Tragically Hip both change things up pretty drastically night to night

shes a peach

I've seen Hall and Oates and the Indigo Girls both take audience requests to determine what they would play. Hall and Oates actually made that the entire show except for their new singles.
I think it also depends on whether a band/artist has pre-programmed production numbers or special effects that can't be rearranged every night. It makes me wonder if Billy Joel or Elton John change it up. They each must have played all of their songs a billion times each. Anyone seen them?

hailhail82

When Neil plays solo or with Crazy Horse, SOMETIMES he'll mix it up. Not all the time though.
I appreciate bands like PJ who do this for their fans (and themselves) but I certainly understand the desire to play a standard show.

Pearls&Stones

I can understand why a band WOULDN'T want to. All they have to do is look at Pearl Jam. Go on the message board after most shows and you see quite a few posts like. "Those assholes, I went to night #1 and they played 'Crown of Thorns' on night #2. What a rip off" or "why do they always open with 'Release' when I see them??" or "29 shows so far this tour and 'Even Flow' has been played 24 times. What gives? Getting a bit stale, boys"

And those are sanitized versions. People are downright mean and bitchy about the setlists. People generally leave bands like The Rolling Stones and U2 alone about this topic, I guess because they know what they are getting.

Pearls&Stones

she's a peach wrote:

I've seen Hall and Oates and the Indigo Girls both take audience requests to determine what they would play. Hall and Oates actually made that the entire show except for their new singles.
I think it also depends on whether a band/artist has pre-programmed production numbers or special effects that can't be rearranged every night. It makes me wonder if Billy Joel or Elton John change it up. They each must have played all of their songs a billion times each. Anyone seen them?

I like what the Rolling Stones did in 2002. They played stadiums, arenas and theaters. Bigger cities like New York and Paris got atleast one of each, and smaller cities got 1 or 2.

The stadium shows were essentially all hits.

The arena shows were mainly a 50/50 mix of hits and album cuts that hadn't been played in a while (like "Stray Cat Blues" and "If You Can't Rock Me.")

The theater shows were basically anything they felt like doing that night.

I caught an arena show and a stadium show. It was one of the coolest tours I have ever seen.

Drifting Away

System dont even care anymore they will be spilt by the end of the year

jaygreen12

counting crows also changes their setlist up pretty drastically from show to show.

Clifwith1f

Pearls&Stones wrote:

I know.

The only major artists I know of that change the sets are...

Pearl Jam
Dave Matthews Band
Bruce Springsteen
Phish

...are there any others?

I have also heard that Kelly Clakson of all people does as well. Say what you will about her music, I say good for her.

Are you kidding? I think most major artists change the sets. Add U2 and Radiohead to the list.

bladworth116

R.E.M. always change their's up

LedZepFan

Clifwith1f wrote:

Are you kidding? I think most major artists change the sets. Add U2 and Radiohead to the list.

U2 does and doesn't....I mean on the Vertigo Tour they played tons of different songs, some that hadn't been played in over 20 years("Gloria" was played for the first time since 82 apparently) but at the same time there were certain things you KNEW would be played. I guess it's that way with Pearl Jam and other 'set-changing' bands though.

dotheevolukin

There are pros and cons to both methods.

THE PROS OF VARYING SETLISTS: Fans never know what song'll be next, it keeps the shows lively and fun, it's more exciting if you're seeing multiple dates on a tour.

THE CONS OF VARYING SETLISTS: Certain songs that aren't played every night can be sloppy, as mentioned above, fans can get greedy.

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THE PROS OF SIMILAR SETLISTS: Songs are tighter since they are played every night, allows for more elaborate stage set-up and lighting display.

THE CONS OF SIMILAR SETLISTS: It can be boring for fans who go to multiple dates, it can get boring for the band.

There have great bands that use each method. Obviously Pearl Jam uses the varying setlist method to their advantage while a band like the Who was able to thrive while playing very similar sets every night.

Enigma

Of all the bands that keep the set lists the same every night, I wish Tool would mix it up a little more. I suppose it's due to all the visuals they have for each song. Same thing with Metallica, if they wanted to change their set lists up, it would be a matter of synchronizing all the lighting and fireworks every night.

elstongunn

she's a peach wrote:

I've seen Hall and Oates and the Indigo Girls both take audience requests to determine what they would play. Hall and Oates actually made that the entire show except for their new singles.
I think it also depends on whether a band/artist has pre-programmed production numbers or special effects that can't be rearranged every night. It makes me wonder if Billy Joel or Elton John change it up. They each must have played all of their songs a billion times each. Anyone seen them?

saw billy joel 1998 2 nd row.. g ood show. he was a good 'showman'. not sure what you were asking? i only saw hime the once, so don't know about setlist, but there weren't any 'effects' except maybe the tan on his saxaphone player.

voodoopug

Pearls&Stones wrote:

I like what the Rolling Stones did in 2002. They played stadiums, arenas and theaters. Bigger cities like New York and Paris got atleast one of each, and smaller cities got 1 or 2.

The stadium shows were essentially all hits.

The arena shows were mainly a 50/50 mix of hits and album cuts that hadn't been played in a while (like "Stray Cat Blues" and "If You Can't Rock Me.")

The theater shows were basically anything they felt like doing that night.

I caught an arena show and a stadium show. It was one of the coolest tours I have ever seen.

I attended 12 shows that stones tour...look at the variety of the five Chicago shows.

UNITED CENTER:

Setlist
Street Fighting Man
It's Only Rock and Roll
If You Can't Rock Me
Don't Stop
All Down the Line
Stray Cat Blues
Far Away Eyes
SHATTERED
wHEN THE whIP cOMES dOWN
Tumbling Dice
Intros
Keith--The Worst
Happy
Can't Turn You Loose
Miss You
Can't You Hear Me Knockin
Honky Tonk Women
Satisfaction
B-stage--Mannish Boy
You Got Me Rocking
Brown Sugar

Main stage
Sympathy for the Devil
Jumping Jack Flash

Comisky Park:

Setlist
Brown Sugar
Start Me Up
IORR
Don't Stop
Honky Tonk Women
Undercover
Angie
You Can't Always Get What You Want
Monkey Man
Love Train
Slipping Away
Before They Make Me Run
Sympathy for the Devil

B stage--Neighbours
Little Red Rooster
Like A Rolling Stone

Gimme Shelter
Tumbling Dice
Street Fighting Man
Jumping Jack Flash
Midnight Rambler
Satisfaction

ARAGON BALLROOM

Start me up
Live with Me
Rocks Off
Hand of Fate
Torn and Frayed
Worried About you
Everybody Needs SOmebody to Love
Walk and Don't Look Back
Dance part 2
Bitch
Slipping Away
Happy
IORR--BONO joined them for this one
(some Going to a GoGo changed to Going to CHicago in the middle of IORR)
I Just Want To Make Love To You--DR John on this one
Honky Tonk Women
Rip This Joint
Can't You Hear Me Knockin--song almost fell apart but Ronnie saved the day
Jumping Jack Flash
Brown Sugar
Tumbling Dice--encore

UNITED CENTER 2 (In January, 5 months later)

-You Got Me Rockin
2-Street Fighting Man
3- If You Can't Rock Me
4- Don't Stop
5- Live with Me
6- Wild Horses
7- Sweet Virginia
8- Rocks Off
9- Tumbling Dice

intros

10-Slipping Away
11-Before They Make Me Run
12-Gimme Shelter
13-Start Me Up
14-Can't You Hear Me Knocking
15-Honky Tonk Women
16-Satisfaction
B Stage
17-IORR
18-Midnight Rambler
19-Brown Sugar
encore
20-Jumping Jack Flash

UNITED CENTER 3 (NEXT NIGHT AFTER PREVIOUS SHOW)

1. Street Fighting Man
2. You Got Me Rocking
3. If You Can't Rock Me
4. Don't Stop
5. Monkey Man
6 Bitch
7. Waiting On A Friend
8. Neighbors
9. Start Me Up
10. Tumbling Dice
Introductions
11. Thru and Thru
12. Happy
13. Sympathy For The Devil
14. Gimme Shelter
15. It's Only Rock 'n Roll
16. (I Can't Get No) Satisfaction
17. When The Whip Comes Down (on the B Stage)
18. Like a Rolling Stone (someone threw Mick a cowboy hat again tonight)
19. Brown Sugar
20. Jumping Jack Flash (back on the main stage)

libragirl

I hate that....they have to be aware that some fans are going to a more then one show.

Thumbing My Way

It's one of my pet peeves when they don't mix it up at all.

That's just another reason that I love PJ so much

Other bands that mix it up:

Ben Harper
The Black Crowes

If I were in a band, I would change things up nightly because I think it would be fun.....I would hate playin' the same shit every night just because I felt I had to.

I've seen The Black Crowes twice and they haven't played She Talks To Angels once....I don't care. Just using that as an example because it's probably one of, if not their biggest song.

I love when bands change setlists.