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hrd2imgnhrd2imgn Southwest Burbs of Chicago Posts: 4,899
edited November 2007 in Other Music
It seems to me in light of the newest van halen which somehow does not include Anthony Michael that after years of bullshit Eddie(maybe his bro too) are the reason for all the difficulties this band has had:

David Lee Roth leaving, returning leaving again and retuning again
Sammy Hagar coming then leaving then coming again then leaving again
Anthony Michael Leaving now Wolfgang VH coming


they sound like a bunch of immature bitches for being 40-50 something
Eddie seems like an egomaniac and it is his way or get the fuck out, and that he is so insecure even though Anthony Michael did nothing wrong he said well fuck him it is my son's turn.

what a waste
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  • aNiMaLaNiMaL Posts: 7,117
    Yeah, I believe that it is definitely Ed's problem and/or deal. You'd think the band was named after him or that he was the head of the band. Oh wait...I guess all that is true.

    Anyways, yes, I think it fucking sucks ass that we finally get the original singer back, but because his life-long bass player is now friends with one of his other defunct singers (Hagar), he cannot be in the band. That blows big time!!! It is not the real Van Halen without Michael Anthony...not at all.
  • dCowboyPJdCowboyPJ Posts: 479
    As cool as it would be for Mike to be there too, after seeing them I could care less now. The VH concert was unfuckingreal. By far one of the best concerts I have ever seen. And it didn't seem like anything was different without Mike being there.
  • hrd2imgnhrd2imgn Southwest Burbs of Chicago Posts: 4,899
    did they have recorded background vocals or was someone actually singing background vocals? Same with the keyboard, anyone actually playing it?

    Sadly they don't give a shit about the midwest on their tour
  • Atomic PunkAtomic Punk Posts: 2,941
    Eddie and Wolf do the backing vocals. The keyboards are pre recorded.

    As far as not giving a shit about the midwest, well, they have played Illinois, Indiana, Michigan, Minnesota, Kansas City, and have upcoming dates for St Louis, Oklahoma and Nebraska. Not a shitload of dates, but they did not completely shut out the midwest like Pearl Jam did the south.
  • TheGossmanTheGossman Posts: 1,120
    hrd2imgn wrote:
    It seems to me in light of the newest van halen which somehow does not include Anthony Michael that after years of bullshit Eddie(maybe his bro too) are the reason for all the difficulties this band has had:

    David Lee Roth leaving, returning leaving again and retuning again
    Sammy Hagar coming then leaving then coming again then leaving again
    Anthony Michael Leaving now Wolfgang VH coming


    they sound like a bunch of immature bitches for being 40-50 something
    Eddie seems like an egomaniac and it is his way or get the fuck out, and that he is so insecure even though Anthony Michael did nothing wrong he said well fuck him it is my son's turn.

    what a waste

    its very true, Sammy Hagar is probobly one of the most down to earth, coolest people you will ever meet, and the fact that he couldn't work with them says alot, ever wonder why Michael Anthony and Sammy are still on good terms, and still do shows together, but not with Ed or Alex? They are assholes, only tour for money, which is why I didn't go see them, they are pricks, even took Michael out of the original band photo and replaced it with Eddie's fatass son! This tour will not last long, no record will come out and it will take them another 5 or so years to do another "reunion tour". I'd rather go see Hagar solo!
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  • PoncierPoncier Posts: 17,053
    hrd2imgn wrote:
    It seems to me in light of the newest van halen which somehow does not include Anthony Michael that after years of bullshit Eddie(maybe his bro too) are the reason for all the difficulties this band has had:

    David Lee Roth leaving, returning leaving again and retuning again
    Sammy Hagar coming then leaving then coming again then leaving again
    Anthony Michael Leaving now Wolfgang VH coming


    they sound like a bunch of immature bitches for being 40-50 something
    Eddie seems like an egomaniac and it is his way or get the fuck out, and that he is so insecure even though Anthony Michael did nothing wrong he said well fuck him it is my son's turn.

    what a waste
    Your argument loses credibility when you thrice refer to Michael Anthony as Anthony Michael
    ;)

    But its been widely known for years that EVH has a bit of an ego, and Alex's brother in law who Alex insosted become manager in the 90's is largely responsible for the first departure of Sammy.

    Basically Ed and Dave both have massive egos and very different personas and clash quite a bit.
    They have a "working" relationship now, nothing more. As a music fan I am glad they have gotten to that point again.
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  • ashtrayrockashtrayrock Posts: 167
    Sammy is a million times more talented than DLR

    Sammy is one chill dude
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  • PoncierPoncier Posts: 17,053
    TheGossman wrote:
    This tour will not last long
    Remind me to not ask your advice on lottery numbers:
    VAN HALEN
    SECOND LEG DATES

    Jan. 22 Oklahoma City, OK Ford Center
    Jan. 24 San Antonio, TX AT&T Center
    Jan. 26 Dallas, TX American Airlines Center
    Jan. 28 Houston, TX Toyota Center
    Feb. 1 Denver, CO Pepsi Center
    Feb. 4 Omaha, NB Qwest Event Center
    Feb. 8 New Orleans, LA New Orleans Arena
    Feb. 12 Ft. Lauderdale, FL BankAtlantic Center
    Feb. 14 Orlando, FL Amway Arena
    Feb. 16 Jacksonville, FL Jacksonville Veterans Memorial Arena
    Feb. 18 Tampa, FL St. Pete Times Forum
    Feb. 22 Charlottesville, VA John Paul Jones Arena
    Mar. 5 Cincinnati, OH US Bank Arena
    Mar. 7 Raleigh, NC RBC Center
    Mar. 9 Baltimore, MD 1st Mariner Arena
    Mar. 11 Manchester, NH Verizon Wireless Arena
    Mar. 13 E. Rutherford, NJ Izod Center
    Mar. 17 New York, NY Madison Square Garden
    Mar. 19 Hershey, PA Giant Center
    Mar. 21 Pittsburgh, PA Mellon Arena
    Mar. 24 Providence, RI Dunkin Donuts Center
    Mar. 26 Uncasville, CT Mohegan Sun Arena
    Mar. 28 Atlantic City, NJ Boardwalk Hall
    Mar. 30 St. Louis, MO Scottrade Center
    Apr. 1 Columbus, OH Value City Arena
    Apr. 3 Chicago, IL Allstate Arena
    Apr. 5 Grand Rapids, MI Van Andel Arena
    Apr. 7 Milwaukee, WI Bradley Center
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  • TheGossmanTheGossman Posts: 1,120
    wow, thats gotta be a record for them, I expect by the end of the tour diamond dave will be sent home in a body bag
    9/4/98, 8/4/00, 12/8/02, 12/9/02, 4/15/03, 4/16/03, 4/19/03, 4/25/03, 4/26/03, 4/28/03, 4/29/03, 4/30/03, 7/8/03, 7/9/03, 9/28/04, 9/29/04, 10/6/04, 9/1/05, 9/2/05, 5/16/06, 5/17/06, 5/27/06, 5/28/06, 5/30/06, 6/1/06, 6/3/06, 8/5/07, 6/11/08, 6/12/08, 6/14/08, 6/16/08, 6/24/08, 6/25/08
  • tybirdtybird Posts: 17,388
    ashtrayrock wrote:
    Sammy is a million times more talented than DLR

    Sammy is one chill dude
    True.
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  • mattosbornemattosborne Posts: 339
    tybird wrote:
    True.

    VERY TRUE.

    DLR's voice is nowhere near as good as Hagars.
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  • PoncierPoncier Posts: 17,053
    mattosborne wrote:
    VERY TRUE.

    DLR's voice is nowhere near as good as Hagars.
    And Hagar's pales in comparison to Cherone's.
    Its a strange formula.
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  • dCowboyPJdCowboyPJ Posts: 479
    TheGossman wrote:
    its very true, Sammy Hagar is probobly one of the most down to earth, coolest people you will ever meet, and the fact that he couldn't work with them says alot, ever wonder why Michael Anthony and Sammy are still on good terms, and still do shows together, but not with Ed or Alex? They are assholes, only tour for money, which is why I didn't go see them, they are pricks, even took Michael out of the original band photo and replaced it with Eddie's fatass son! This tour will not last long, no record will come out and it will take them another 5 or so years to do another "reunion tour". I'd rather go see Hagar solo!

    Who the hell cares if the VH Bros are assholes? I really hate when people say "so and so is an asshole so they suck". 9/10 people in the music biz are assholes. Who the hell cares.

    And i'm pretty sure almost every single big band out there tours for money. Really, thats the whole point.

    I'm a huge Hagar fan. So i'm not bashing him. I grew up on 5150, and it was the only Van Halen I knew for the longest time. But to be able to see DLR with VH again is special imo. I've seen Van Halen with Sammy. I've seen Sammy on his own. But neither of them even come close to DLR with Van Halen.
  • Shawn Smith CollectiveShawn Smith Collective Posts: 986
    hrd2imgn wrote:
    It seems to me...that after years of bullshit Eddie(maybe his bro too) are the reason for all the difficulties this band has had:

    Is it 10-years ago again?
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  • bootlegger10bootlegger10 Posts: 16,025
    Why do people care to see Van Halen, Led Zeppelin, the Police, etc... The spark is gone people. This is 2007, not 1984. These are just money tours (except for Zep). Ed is egomaniace, his son is playing bass, Davide Lee Roth is probably clinically insane. Pop in a CD instead of wasting time on them. I wish they would have come back and nobody cared. Especially since they haven't released anything new.

    I'm just tired of these damn reunion tours. If you call it quits, or you are such a douche that you can't keep the band together, you should stay done. These tours are meant to take your money, they are not about playing music. Just look at the Eagles. They'll preach against corporations, but take money from the biggest one (Wal-Mart). Money, money, money. But hey, if you get to hear Ain't Talkin Bout Love like it is 1989 again, go for it.

    How is Zeppelin playing now even remotely close to what it was in the 70's? It'd be like Eddie sing Porch when he 61 after taking 15 years off. The time has passed and it ain't coming back (or at least shouldn't).
  • ashtrayrockashtrayrock Posts: 167
    bootlegger10 wrote:
    Why do people care to see Van Halen, Led Zeppelin, the Police, etc... The spark is gone people. This is 2007, not 1984. These are just money tours (except for Zep). Ed is egomaniace, his son is playing bass, Davide Lee Roth is probably clinically insane. Pop in a CD instead of wasting time on them. I wish they would have come back and nobody cared. Especially since they haven't released anything new.

    I'm just tired of these damn reunion tours. If you call it quits, or you are such a douche that you can't keep the band together, you should stay done. These tours are meant to take your money, they are not about playing music. Just look at the Eagles. They'll preach against corporations, but take money from the biggest one (Wal-Mart). Money, money, money. But hey, if you get to hear Ain't Talkin Bout Love like it is 1989 again, go for it.

    How is Zeppelin playing now even remotely close to what it was in the 70's? It'd be like Eddie sing Porch when he 61 after taking 15 years off. The time has passed and it ain't coming back (or at least shouldn't).

    Ha Ha good rant! I love it! lmao!!

    and so very true...

    I'm trying to not buy into these high priced reunion tours on purpose. I saw the Eagles when they first got back together(1st reunion tour) and that was the first time I ever paid $100 for a ticket...it was a great show but I felt ripped off. You mention The Police and that's a great example. I chose to sit home when they came to townx2...their music really mattered to me in the early-mid 1980's...and nothing since...lame to be touring now, if you ask me.

    Now if Peter would just get back with Genesis I'd be on that tour for sure!

    Man, I'm sooo confused ;)
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  • jamie ukjamie uk Posts: 3,812
    I'd say a rather large number of rock stars are egomaniacs, so Ed VH is not alone...personally I'd love it if they came to the UK and gigged with Roth...dream come true time that would be.......Tonight I shall pray to Rob for it to happen.
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  • DanimalDanimal Posts: 2,000
    Van Halen stinks.
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  • jamie ukjamie uk Posts: 3,812
    Danimal wrote:
    Van Halen stinks.
    It's your opinion, and you're welcome to hold it my dear friend. But it's my opinion that they are the most fun you can have with your clothes on, come on you saying you wouldn't drink a beer and shake it on down if you heard them cranking out Hot for teacher.?..let it go, don't be afraid....smile..dance your arse off!
    I came, I saw, I concurred.....
  • PoncierPoncier Posts: 17,053
    I saw them twice in October, and it was well worth the ticket price both times.
    Who gives a crap about EVH's ego or DLR's ego when they're on stage setting the building on fire. Eddie is in great form, and Dave is sounding better than he has in years.
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  • jamie ukjamie uk Posts: 3,812
    Poncier wrote:
    I saw them twice in October, and it was well worth the ticket price both times.
    Who gives a crap about EVH's ego or DLR's ego when they're on stage setting the building on fire. Eddie is in great form, and Dave is sounding better than he has in years.
    Sounds good, you're right, people should get real and realise that most rock stars are up their own arses, just some more than others, what does it matter when they come up with the goods like VH do..? Send 'em over here man.
    I came, I saw, I concurred.....
  • PoncierPoncier Posts: 17,053
    Hopefully they'll head across the pond in the summer. I imagine there should be enough demand in Europe. They're selling quite well in the States.
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  • bootlegger10bootlegger10 Posts: 16,025
    ashtrayrock wrote:
    Ha Ha good rant! I love it! lmao!!

    You can tell it is a rant because of all the grammar and spelling mistakes.
  • jamie ukjamie uk Posts: 3,812
    Poncier wrote:
    Hopefully they'll head across the pond in the summer. I imagine there should be enough demand in Europe. They're selling quite well in the States.
    It would be a very rare treat, I think they supported Black Sabbath last time they toured the UK (Ozzy was still there!) about 79 I think. Then they did Monsters of Rock in 1984, I'm pretty sure that was the last time they played here with Roth, they ain't done a whole lot here at all, but they are popular.
    I came, I saw, I concurred.....
  • ZoSoTimZoSoTim Posts: 1,102
    Producer Mike Post said Eddie played the drums on VH3 which is not a claim I remember hearing before. 

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  • PoncierPoncier Posts: 17,053
    ZoSoTim said:
    Producer Mike Post said Eddie played the drums on VH3 which is not a claim I remember hearing before. 

    Never heard that before either.
    Makes a little sense if Al was f'ed up at the time.
    I have heard plenty of stories about Ed playing bass parts and having to essentially teach MA how to play the songs he wrote, but never anything about drums before.
    Wonder if Al will make mention of it in his book.
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  • ZoSoTimZoSoTim Posts: 1,102
    Teaching Mike how to play the bass is nonsense. Now Ed played bass on all but three tracks on that album so he might have showed Mike what he played but that’s about it. Ed was very mean to Mike after they kicked him out all because he was butt hurt that instead of sitting around doing nothing he decided to jam with Sammy. 
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