NIN Year Zero
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What are your first takes on this now that it is official?
I think it sounds more like a remix EP than a NIN album.
Lyrically it is very focused
Sound was typical NIN textures, with a lot more electronica. Somtimes it sounds great, but other times it sounds more lke noise. The layers of sounds coming out is phenominal though.
Personally I miss the guitar driven days or Broken
overall I have found it a decent album, not overly thrilled with it, but nothing bad either. 3/5
I think it sounds more like a remix EP than a NIN album.
Lyrically it is very focused
Sound was typical NIN textures, with a lot more electronica. Somtimes it sounds great, but other times it sounds more lke noise. The layers of sounds coming out is phenominal though.
Personally I miss the guitar driven days or Broken
overall I have found it a decent album, not overly thrilled with it, but nothing bad either. 3/5
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I think I'm going to go ahead and place this in front of the new Fall Out Boy as my favorite album of the year so far.
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I got my propaganda
I got revisionism
I got my violence
In hi-def ultra-realism
All a part of this great nation
I got my fist
I got my plan
I got survivalism
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What is worse another post on the subject or the fact you are responding to it again?
Song 11 Meet Your Master is my fav right now.
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It has great lyrics....
My wife said "The Beginning of the End" starts like "My Sharona"...
What do the lyrics to "Capital G" mean?
The video for Survivalism is pretty good. Uncensored on NIN.com
It's the coolest thing since color changing hot-wheels!!!
I hope that part about listening to Fall Out Boy is a joke, fans of them should not be allowed to listen to NIN.
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how about a NIN fan listening to FOB? Would that be a loophole?
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=9818832
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and i am also admitting that i admire trent reznor's idea of revisiting the old sounds of industrial rock. i kinda do like that. but still i hate nine inch nails.
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BTW... Did you dial the number on the back of the CD package for the US Department of Morality? The number is 1-866-445-6580.
Dudes, totally call that number to listen to a one minute recording. It's a trip! Brilliant marketing ploy!
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I love it too, but I just gotta point out, it is not an effort by Trent and Co, it's pretty much all him.
And it isn't a marketing ploy. It's all a part of Year Zero. How could it be a marketing ploy if it's on the back of the album you just bought?
Enjoy.
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That's like saying that the NIKE slogan 'Just Do It' isn't a marketing ploy if it's on the T shirt you just bought. Before I bought the album I read the bit about the US Department of Morality, I thought yeah that's kind of interesting; maybe I'll buy the album. Marketing. It pulled me in.
It's a marketing ploy. The concept, year zero, it's all a marketing ploy. A brilliant one, but a marketing ploy none the less. Everything which isn't the music on the CD is marketing.
Granted, it's just my opinion.
- the great Sir Leo Harrison
That's a fair point. But I think a comparison with Nike is kind of irrelevant. The goal of a company like Nike is ultimately to make money. While this is the case with a lot of musicians, I really don't think it is the case with Trent Reznor. If it was, then he wouldn't have made an album like Year Zero, or The Fragile. And he wouldn't have left it 5 years between releasing most of his albums (Year Zero being the notable exception).
The only reason I heard about any of the Year Zero stuff was because i'm a Spiral member, and I think it's pretty much guarenteed most of them are going to buy the album anyway. I have told a lot of people about the whole YZ ARG thing, and none of them give a flying crap.
I'm not saying he hasn't done any marketing for it. Listening parties are a form of marketing. I just don't view all the websites etc as marketing, but that's just me.
How big a part did the fact that you saw NIN live, and then became a fan, play in you buying the album? I think that if stuff like this was read by a non-fan, they wouldn't care at all.
Once again, just my opinion.
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I did read in the article in the current Rolling Stone (under the Internet section) that it is a marketing ploy, combined with elements of a video game. There are supposed to have been some hidden messages in some of those websites prior to the release of the album, and other elements that create for some kind of unraveling of information, or whatever. I think it said the purpose is also to make fans believe they are part of the marketing process. It quotes Trent as saying "it's only the beginning". The company that handled this has done other un-conventional marketing ploys with other products.
It really is way more than marketing IMO. I have been participating and following it since about February 12th when the first clue came out - there were letters on tour t-shirt that spelled out i am trying to believe. That turned out to be the first website, that discussed something called the presence, and a substance called parepin. It has been an interesting story. But there's way more to it than that IMO. Its like a big painting and the Year Zero album is one part of the picture. Look on the album at the credits - there is a credit for 'world building' - trent reznor and rob sheridan. Trent with the help of Rob came up with the whole concept, but then took on the company to help them execute their ideas. There are TONS of websites, with stories, and people - he couldn't have done all that himself. If you just call it marketing I think one is missing out on the bigger picture.
We've had to use many sleuthing techniques to figure stuff out - there's been passages to interesting books, but only a few words or letters were visible, and BACKWARDS, some people used audio programs to translate sound into picture, there were codes on buttons. Marketing or not, its been interesting, educational (I learned more about visual manipulation, and about something called steganography, morse code....). Maybe I'm just a geek, but this stuff is fascinating. And I agree with the concepts behind it, which makes me like it more. If it had just been a game about wizards, and dragons or whatever, I doubt it would have pulled me in.
And getting back to the album, I am really liking it (as I've said on about 3 other Year Zero threads), though right now I'm listening to Still.
edit: Tonight he released several of his tracks in garageband format, and in the files there are some spectrographs of avatars of people on another board I go to. We think we know why but not 100% sure yet.
edit 2: Mensane I totally agree - the album is richer for knowing the story. Zero sum is very sad taking everything into consideration.
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If you don't know anything about the story, you are having a totally different experience listening to the new album than someone who does know.
The songs are from different characters' points of view. If you don't know the characters, then you dont have a full understanding of what the song is about.
And I am not saying that you can't enjoy the album without knowing the story. It is just different.
Knowing what I do about the back story of the songs, when I listen to the whole album from beginning to end, I am in tears and emotionally exhausted.
that is the coolest cd ever, put it on your leg and then put your hand on it....thanks for making me notice!
Thank you brother!
I guess my usage of 'marketing ploy' came across as critical when it was not. It's a brilliant marketing effort to go along with a fantastic album. It was smart and unique.
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