Smashing Pumpkins - Rhinocerous

Jamal

Did anyone ever actually like this song soooo much, then read the lyrics(which are not the greatest ever, let' be honest) and kind of think less of it?

I still like it, but since i've read the lyrics ... well, it just doesn't do it to me anymore, if y'all know what i mean...

Anon

decent song. some of the Gish stuff tends to blur together after a while for me though.

intodeep

I have never read the lyrics. Since i really like this song now i don't think i will so it won't ruin it for me.

prytocorduroy

What don't you like about them? Are they too simple or something?

Jamal

danny72688 wrote:

What don't you like about them? Are they too simple or something?

I thought they were more substantial than this...
They're not bad, but they are indeed quite simple, and at first sight even bland and banal.

I just thought they'd be better until I read them and the ones I used to sing were so much more meaningful to me.

Don't get this wrong, I still like the song, but it just doesn't mean the same to me as before ...

red mos

one of my favorite pumpkins songs. I always liked the lyrics to this one, but I listen to the pumpkins for their music over anything else, they got some great riffs
However, (and I'm sure I'll get reemed):

I've always been a fan of their studio work, but for some reason I don't like their live shows at all. I've heard several boots, including on air radio broadcasts of the last two houston shows in 98 and 2000, and the songs just don't sound as good live, they sound unbalanced and way too distorted. Maybe they are like Bob Dylan, and tweak their songs, and make them sound different, I'm not sure. Whatever it is, it doesn't work for me. Corgan sounds like he whines and just yells off key during some of the songs, and I have to wait to hear lyrics to even tell what they are playing.

prytocorduroy

Jamal wrote:

I thought they were more substantial than this...
They're not bad, but they are indeed quite simple, and at first sight even bland and banal.

I just thought they'd be better until I read them and the ones I used to sing were so much more meaningful to me.

Don't get this wrong, I still like the song, but it just doesn't mean the same to me as before ...

Well when I read into them they are much deeper than the simple surface. Plus the tune kicks ass

I do know what you mean about a song losing some effect because of weak lyrics (or however you want to word it).

Pearl Jam and toast

I absolutely love the Pumpkins live...


Anyway, I know what you're saying with Rhinocerous. Maybe the best music on Gish but on the low end lyrically.

Brainofdz

I've never read the lyrics because I want to believe he saying:

"She Knows, She Knows, She Knows, She Knows, HOES!"

Jamal

danny72688 wrote:

Well when I read into them they are much deeper than the simple surface. Plus the tune kicks ass

I do know what you mean about a song losing some effect because of weak lyrics (or however you want to word it).

They aren't weak, but what I believed them to be prior to reading them was sooooo much stronger.

Might be I misinterpret them so badly it fucks up the whole thing, but then ... enlighten me... Make me let it move me again

prytocorduroy

Jamal wrote:

They aren't weak, but what I believed them to be prior to reading them was sooooo much stronger.

Might be I misinterpret them so badly it fucks up the whole thing, but then ... enlighten me... Make me let it move me again

Well I see deception and covering up things. But whoever he's doing it to knows what's going on and he knows that she knows but continues to deceive. Putting something less important ahead of something more important basically, and doing so even though you know it's wrong.

Something like that.

DarkStar

Brainofdz wrote:

I've never read the lyrics because I want to believe he saying:

"She Knows, She Knows, She Knows, She Knows, HOES!"

it goes like this:

she knows
and she knows, she knows, she knows
and she knows, she knows, she knows
how's it she knows, she knows, she knows
and she knows, she knows

full lyrics below...if you don't want to read them...move along:

























planned a show
trees and balloons
ice cream snow
see you in june

could have known
i would reveal
should have known
i would conceal your way

she knows
and she knows, she knows, she knows
and she knows, she knows, she knows
how's it she knows, she knows, she knows
and she knows, she knows

colors show
after the moon
i should go
see you in june
your way

and she knows
and she knows, she knows, she knows
and she knows, she knows, she knows
how's it she knows, she knows, she knows
and she knows, she knows

open your eyes to these mustered lines
open your eyes to these mustered lines
the way

and she knows
and she knows, she knows, she knows
and she knows, she knows, she knows
how's it she knows, she knows, she knows
and she knows, she knows, she knows

Jamal

danny72688 wrote:

Well I see deception and covering up things. But whoever he's doing it to knows what's going on and he knows that she knows but continues to deceive. Putting something less important ahead of something more important basically, and doing so even though you know it's wrong.

Something like that.

Yeah, well, the message is there ... but still, the words can't cut it for me... too bad, I'm sorry ...