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RATM, 'Settle for Nothing'

harmless_little_f***harmless_little_f*** Posts: 8,005
edited April 2008 in Other Music
That guitar riff is fucking mental. :)
'We're learning songs for baby Jesus' birthday. His mum and dad were Merry and Joseph. He had a bed made of clay and the three kings bought him Gold, Frankenstein and Merv as presents.'

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  • catefrancescatefrances Posts: 29,003
    jeez harmless, when is anything tom morello does NOT mental? :D:D
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  • facepollutionfacepollution Posts: 6,834
    harmless_little_f*** wrote:
    That guitar riff is fucking mental. :)

    Hell fucking yeah it is :D
  • SVRDhand13SVRDhand13 Posts: 26,152
    every riff on that cd kicks major ass!
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  • PrePre Posts: 17
    The song itself is okay, I'm not big on the riff but the solo is awesome. It's a clean, straightforward solo, and I think it contrasts really well with the rest of the song.
  • r1versr1vers Posts: 244
    great track that i look over all too often. yesterday i re-discovered how amazing ashes in the fall is. the part towards the end with "ain't it funny how..." is SO powerful.
    "Last time I think we played that song here was like, a long time ago, and there was a bonfire in the back and people were like throwing each other into it...very exciting days but a huge fucking relief that that's not how it is tonight..." Ed Irvine Night 1 2003, after Deep
  • Gremmie95Gremmie95 Posts: 749
    great riff, great band, great everything.
  • Mike_Muse_RageMike_Muse_Rage Posts: 677
    That song was one of the first RATM songs that I loved. It was also the first complex-ish guitar solo that I ever learned. It felt like a huge achievement at the time.
  • DiRtyFranK38DiRtyFranK38 Posts: 3,131
    r1vers wrote:
    great track that i look over all too often. yesterday i re-discovered how amazing ashes in the fall is. the part towards the end with "ain't it funny how..." is SO powerful.

    totally agree dude.
    possibly my favorite rage tune
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  • elmerelmer Posts: 1,683
    Great song, used to love the album.Evil Empire rocked the fuck too. However, De La Rocha nor any of the other band members are black, therefore there's a line they've crossed with certain lyrics on that record into offensiveness that they shouldn't have.
  • Them-BonesThem-Bones Posts: 518
    elmer wrote:
    Great song, used to love the album.Evil Empire rocked the fuck too. However, De La Rocha nor any of the other band members are black, therefore there's a line they've crossed with certain lyrics on that record into offensiveness that they shouldn't have.

    ugh
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  • catefrancescatefrances Posts: 29,003
    elmer wrote:
    Great song, used to love the album.Evil Empire rocked the fuck too. However, De La Rocha nor any of the other band members are black, therefore there's a line they've crossed with certain lyrics on that record into offensiveness that they shouldn't have.

    LMFAO!!! you are aware that tom morello is black. and that his paternal uncle, jomo kenyatta, was the first post colonial president of kenya? no? i didn't think so. next time do a bit of reading before you sprout off about something you obviously have very little understanding of. :rolleyes:
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  • elmerelmer Posts: 1,683
    catefrances wrote:
    LMFAO!!! you are aware that tom morello is black. and that his paternal uncle, jomo kenyatta, was the first post colonial president of kenya? no? i didn't think so. next time do a bit of reading before you sprout off about something you obviously have very little understanding of. :rolleyes:
    Morello ain't black unless I'm colourblind....nah-nah he ain't fucking black, couldn't give two shits what the mediocre cunt thinks he is! His solo material is fucking laughable, that he's played with the likes of Springsteen just shows what a bullshit world the music business is!

    As for De La Rocha, he needs to stick to his reading! The original puerile white angst-driven rap-rock star!!

    Bullet In The Head=what do they know about guns? Who are they representing?

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  • catefrancescatefrances Posts: 29,003
    elmer wrote:
    Morello ain't black unless I'm colourblind....nah-nah he ain't fucking black, couldn't give two shits what the mediocre cunt thinks he is! His solo material is fucking laughable, that he's played with the likes of Springsteen just shows what a bullshit world the music business is!

    As for De La Rocha, he needs to stick to his reading! The original puerile white angst-driven rap-rock star!!

    Bullet In The Head=what do they know about guns? Who are they representing?

    Guilty wanabee-socialist rich kids admire Zack, makes the SPANIARD dollars!!!

    Free Tibet, ok yeah..........

    well then best be getting a seeing eye dog. i wonder if you consider bob marley to be black?

    seems to me you have no clue what bullet in the head is about. and therefore i see you as the one of the people it's directed at.
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  • elmerelmer Posts: 1,683
    catefrances wrote:
    well then best be getting a seeing eye dog. i wonder if you consider bob marley to be black?

    seems to me you have no clue what bullet in the head is about. and therefore i see you as the one of the people it's directed at.
    hehe, don't feel as strongly about RATM as I made out, was pissed up and gotta little carried away with myself. The last time I heard their debut I was put off by the lyrics but the riffs retained all the power that I remembered.
    Morello, just assumed him to be Mexican or something, not sure if he's what I said..........you quoted me which has meant I cannot edit out my silliness, makes me look bad, damages my reputation here(err...), tttts.....
  • catefrancescatefrances Posts: 29,003
    elmer wrote:
    hehe, don't feel as strongly about RATM as I made out, was pissed up and gotta little carried away with myself. The last time I heard their debut I was put off by the lyrics but the riffs retained all the power that I remembered.
    Morello, just assumed him to be Mexican or something, not sure if he's what I said..........you quoted me which has meant I cannot edit out my silliness, makes me look bad, damages my reputation here(err...), tttts.....

    LMAO!! tis zach who has the mexican heritage, not tom. :rolleyes: do you actually know anything at all about RATM?
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  • muppetmuppet Posts: 980
    The whole album is brilliant. All of their albums are. It's not for nothing that both their debut and Battle For LA are on that Rolling Stone Greatest Albums list.

    People dismiss them as knuckleheaded rockers who were unwilling to evolve. Whilst they weren't the most experimental band on the planet, I suggest to them to try and listen to Evil Empire. I remember hating it when I was about 12, but now I listen to it, it's fucking brilliant.
  • elmerelmer Posts: 1,683
    catefrances wrote:
    do you actually know anything at all about RATM?
    Dearie me! You think I just picked randomly and had a go? I listened to their first two albums in the day, enjoyed the rage and menace within the music, maybr the sense of righteousness too.
  • g under pg under p Posts: 18,184
    elmer wrote:
    Morello ain't black unless I'm colourblind....nah-nah he ain't fucking black, couldn't give two shits what the mediocre cunt thinks he is! His solo material is fucking laughable, that he's played with the likes of Springsteen just shows what a bullshit world the music business is!

    As for De La Rocha, he needs to stick to his reading! The original puerile white angst-driven rap-rock star!!

    Bullet In The Head=what do they know about guns? Who are they representing?

    Guilty wanabee-socialist rich kids admire Zack, makes the SPANIARD dollars!!!

    Free Tibet, ok yeah..........

    You should know how it is in this country....if you're 1/4 black in this country (USA) you're BLACK period. When you get down to it, it matters none what really matters is the music. TM is black in case you don't know.

    For myself I like the riffs on *Fistful Of Steel* better.

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  • catefrancescatefrances Posts: 29,003
    elmer wrote:
    Dearie me! You think I just picked randomly and had a go? I listened to their first two albums in the day, enjoyed the rage and menace within the music, maybr the sense of righteousness too.

    my beef with you, if you can even call it that, had nothing whatever to do with the music. yuo were ragging on their lyrics and saying none of them are black and that being the case, there's a line they've crossed with certain lyrics on that record into offensiveness that they shouldn't have.

    i pointed out that, in fact tom morello is black. and you replied with, nah-nah he ain't fucking black couldn't give two shits what the mediocre cunt thinks he is!

    then you said you just assumed he was mexican or whatever and i felt the need again to point out to you that mexican is actually zach's heritage.

    for someone to have listened to the first two albums ' in the day' and not be aware of these points seemed a little laughable to me. thats all. :)
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  • elmerelmer Posts: 1,683
    catefrances wrote:

    for someone to have listened to the first two albums ' in the day' and not be aware of these points seemed a little laughable to me. thats all. :)
    Oi! C'mon, now I wasn't concerned with all that back then, I'm still not. I felt the other night they were just spoiling for trouble, expressing their discontentment and disillusion with the world through militant support of left-wing and terrorist groups. Hence, I saw a lack of integrity and thought to express it by picking up on them not being black yet dealing in song with issues that relate mainly to african-americans. Not claiming I was correct, my thinking was skewed and base but neverthless that's how I saw it.
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