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Johnny Cash's 'HURT'

harmless_little_f***harmless_little_f*** Posts: 8,005
edited July 2006 in Other Music
is the most beautiful song I've ever heard. How much Johnny Cash stuff is this reflective and poignant? What else should I pick up of his? (I don't so much like his faster, more poppy country n western stuff.)
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  • LeaderOfMenLeaderOfMen Posts: 110
    it sounds alot like that song that Trent REznor wrote from Nine Inch Nails.
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  • harmless_little_f***harmless_little_f*** Posts: 8,005
    LeaderOfMen wrote:
    it sounds alot like that song that Trent REznor wrote from Nine Inch Nails.

    Yeah yeah yeah, I wondered who'd be the first to say that. I love how Cash changed it though. Incidentally, this is why I said Johnny Cash's 'Hurt' rather than 'Hurt' by Johnny Cash. The former implies Johnny Cash's version...
    'We're learning songs for baby Jesus' birthday. His mum and dad were Merry and Joseph. He had a bed made of clay and the three kings bought him Gold, Frankenstein and Merv as presents.'

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  • LeaderOfMenLeaderOfMen Posts: 110
    i think it is truly amazing to think that johnny was sittin around listning to NIN and thinking...Man i should cover that song, would have been funnier to hear johnny say "i want to fuck you like an animal"
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  • Pearl Jam and toastPearl Jam and toast Posts: 4,475
    "i wanna break my rusty cage and run" - johnny cash.

    :p



    His version of Hurt really is unbelievable though.. it brings tears to my eyes every single time i hear it, and there aren't many things that can do that to me.
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  • kdpjamkdpjam Posts: 2,303
    good but sad song. the video with johnny that i have, is pretty sad (the way johnny looks, no offense). anyone else seen this?
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  • Pearl Jam and toastPearl Jam and toast Posts: 4,475
    kdpjam wrote:
    good but sad song. the video with johnny that i have, is pretty sad (the way johnny looks, no offense). anyone else seen this?
    heartbreaking. :(
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  • nazcanlinesnazcanlines Posts: 26
    LeaderOfMen wrote:
    i think it is truly amazing to think that johnny was sittin around listning to NIN and thinking...Man i should cover that song, would have been funnier to hear johnny say "i want to fuck you like an animal"

    Rick Rubin produced the album that that song appears on, and i remember reading an article that said that Rick suggested the song to Johnny Cash, he hadn't heard of NIN before that. But he said that once he heard it, he thought it was the most poignant song about drug abuse that he'd ever heard
  • harmless_little_f***harmless_little_f*** Posts: 8,005
    Just to pull this thread back on topic (! I DO love Jonny Cash's 'Hurt', which I know he didn't write - but his version is better, IMO):

    How much of Cash's stuff is this introspective and beautiful? Is it all 'grab a partner by the hand....' country and western? I don't like Ring of Fire etc. Which albums should I get if I like a more poetic, darker Cash? I'm thinking the 'American' series in general has some of the stuff I'm talking about. Anything else?
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  • Jeremy1012Jeremy1012 Posts: 7,170
    I much prefer the NIN version, I have to say. If that song is all Trent is remembered for in the grand scheme of things, it is still a worthy contribution to music. Its a classic.
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  • stu geestu gee Posts: 1,174
    Johnny Cash's version of hurt is far better than nin's version in my opinion. I love most of johnny cash's work actually. The Folsom prison recordings are amazing, Folsom Prison blues is my fav song.

    'When i was just a baby, my mamma told me son, always be a good boy, dont ever play with guns. But i shot a man in Reno, just to watch him die.'

    I also think that the video for hurt is one of my favourite music videos ever, very emotional and powerful.
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  • danielsondanielson Posts: 25
    harmless_little_f*** wrote:
    Yeah yeah yeah, I wondered who'd be the first to say that. I love how Cash changed it though. Incidentally, this is why I said Johnny Cash's 'Hurt' rather than 'Hurt' by Johnny Cash. The former implies Johnny Cash's version...

    Your first post also gave me the impression that you thought Johnny Cash wrote it

    "How much Johnny Cash stuff is this reflective and poignant?"

    I think this set the tone for your post more than typing "Johnny Cash's 'HURT'" and expecting us to get it.

    Obviously not a big deal, but you shouldn't have been surprised that someone posted that about trent reznor.

    I think the most amazing thing about Johnny Cash's version is that the biggest reason it was a great cover is much more the fact that he was a dying old legend as opposed to anything great he did with the performance.

    Not knocking it, cause I thought it was great too, but I don't think it would have had the impact if it had just been some dude giving the exact same performance, as opposed to Johnny Cash and the backstory (plus I think his wife had just died)
  • ElkaElka Posts: 43
    harmless_little_f*** wrote:
    is the most beautiful song I've ever heard. How much Johnny Cash stuff is this reflective and poignant? What else should I pick up of his? (I don't so much like his faster, more poppy country n western stuff.)

    I think the UNCHAINED album is amazing. There is some of the southern twang on it that you might not care for, but it's pretty hard to find a Cash album that doesn't have that. If you're looking for something along the same lines as his version of "Hurt" though, then I'd say definitely give a listen to the songs "Spiritual" and "Unchained" from that album.
  • takingpunchestakingpunches Posts: 107
    No, i'm gonna go with NIN's version better
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  • stonesgstringstonesgstring Posts: 4,613
    I love this version of the song. He has the perfect voice to pull off such an emotional and moving song.
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  • suffragettesuffragette Posts: 253
    Johnny Cash is an American icon. He could be from no other place.
  • pineapplesandwavespineapplesandwaves Posts: 584
    harmless_little_f*** wrote:
    (! I DO love Jonny Cash's 'Hurt', which I know he didn't write - but his version is better, IMO)
    I agree. Johnny's version kicks Trent's ass. I loved the original, but once I heard Johnny Cash's version, I can't even listen to the NIN version anymore. The song is beautiful and brought tears to my eyes the first time I heard it and everytime since.

    The video is beautiful and absolutely heartbreaking, especially given the fact that he lost June so recently. It's such a painfully beautiful video. I only hope to feel that kind of love one day.
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  • jezebeloriajezebeloria Posts: 600
    I can't even put into words what this song means to me. And I mean the NIN song. It is relevant to me for that point in my life and anyone else covering was just...
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  • clutching_benjaminclutching_benjamin Posts: 95
    Aside from the American Recordings series, try and check out the Bitter Tears album, which is sort of a concept album about the Native American. The album is more like a folk album than a country record. "Apache Tears" from this album is particularly good.
  • MLC2006MLC2006 Posts: 861
    all of Cash's stuff is pure greatness. however, I'd say his most "reflective" stuff are from the "American" albums.

    I would suggest to start off with "The Legend of Johnny Cash" which has about 85% of his hits including "Hurt" and "When the Man Comes Around". after that, I'd get all the American albums (I think there are 5). you can hear the "reflection" in his tone in those songs.

    "The Man Comes Around" (I think this is American IV) is my favorite but the one that was released last week (I believe American V) is also great. from that album, the songs "Sooner or Later God will Cut You Down" and "The 309" are great.
  • civ_eng_girlciv_eng_girl Posts: 2,001
    I appreciate that Johnny Cash respected the song (and presumably Trent), enough to do a cover of Hurt....

    But nothing will ever top NIN doing the song.... the earth-shattering guitars at the end of the song are one of my favorite moments in modern music....

    And Trent singing the song live on stage, solo on piano is one of the most beautiful things i have ever seen or heard.
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