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CJMST3KCJMST3K Posts: 9,722
edited May 2007 in Other Music
My GF is a fan - and we just bought floor ticket.

Is it a rough crowd? I'm getting old. :D




ps: if Tool can play "mid-sized markets" like Richmond, why can't PJ?
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  • civ_eng_girlciv_eng_girl Posts: 2,001
    i saw tool back in 1994.

    some muscle-bound slam-dancing idiot tried to pick a fight with me because he fell over after shoulder checking me.

    seriously... who picks a fight with a girl? :rolleyes: :D
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  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 29,249
    last time i saw them the crowd was very cool no moshing at all you should be ok .........
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  • CJMST3KCJMST3K Posts: 9,722
    josevolution wrote:
    last time i saw them the crowd was very cool no moshing at all you should be ok .........


    cool. i don't mind moshing, but... primus moshing, or light-hearted moshing. Tool seems pretty serious, so I could only imagine their crowd would have been hard core moshers. :)
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  • CJMST3KCJMST3K Posts: 9,722
    civ_eng_girl wrote:

    seriously... who picks a fight with a girl? :rolleyes: :D


    only the brave. ;)
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  • Lukin66Lukin66 Posts: 3,063
    When I saw tool last year, Maynard absolutely forbade the crowd from moshing. I dunno if he's still in that phase, but it stands to reason that he should be.
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  • CJMST3KCJMST3K Posts: 9,722
    Lukin66 wrote:
    When I saw tool last year, Maynard absolutely forbade the crowd from moshing. I dunno if he's still in that phase, but it stands to reason that he should be.

    really? he said it from the stage? i wonder if is for safety or musical/attention reasons.
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  • qtegirlqtegirl Posts: 321
    Both times I've seen Tool the crowd has been pretty tame. I think you'll be fine.
  • CJMST3KCJMST3K Posts: 9,722
    qtegirl wrote:
    Both times I've seen Tool the crowd has been pretty tame. I think you'll be fine.

    cool. i've worked a few hundred concerts, so i've seen a lot of various pits, but never seen or worked a Tool show.
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  • rearviewmirorrearviewmiror Posts: 894
    CJMST3K wrote:
    My GF is a fan - and we just bought floor ticket.

    Is it a rough crowd? I'm getting old. :D




    ps: if Tool can play "mid-sized markets" like Richmond, why can't PJ?
    Lived in Richmond for 24 years. We never got the big acts very often. They arent going to play the Coliseum are they, I mean Tool seems much more Richmond's speed than PJ.
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  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 29,249
    CJMST3K wrote:
    cool. i've worked a few hundred concerts, so i've seen a lot of various pits, but never seen or worked a Tool show.

    most likely you & gf will be mesmerized by the whole visuall and sound experience it really is mind blowing ,nothing like a PJ SHOW very little crowd interaction or crowd acknowledgement from MAYNARD ........BUT STILL AWSOME ...
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  • CJMST3KCJMST3K Posts: 9,722
    josevolution wrote:
    most likely you & gf will be mesmerized by the whole visuall and sound experience it really is mind blowing ,nothing like a PJ SHOW very little crowd interaction or crowd acknowledgement from MAYNARD ........BUT STILL AWSOME ...

    yeah - I'm looking forward to the show! I'm not that familiar with more than maybe 3 of their popular songs - but I think it'll be a good experience. I'm a drummer - and this guy is on my list of top drummers, probably number 1 from the few songs I've been exposed to. So that alone will keep my interest strong.

    Is there an opening act usually? It doesnt list one. Do they play long?
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    *Jones Beach 8/23/00 *Jones Beach 8/24/00 *Jones Beach 8/25/00
    *Mansfield 8/29/00 *Mansfield 8/30/00 *Nassau 4/30/03 *Nissan VA 7/1/03
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  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 29,249
    CJMST3K wrote:
    yeah - I'm looking forward to the show! I'm not that familiar with more than maybe 3 of their popular songs - but I think it'll be a good experience. I'm a drummer - and this guy is on my list of top drummers, probably number 1 from the few songs I've been exposed to. So that alone will keep my interest strong.

    Is there an opening act usually? It doesnt list one. Do they play long?

    well if you are a drummer this guy will absolutly blow you away i thought i was watching a fucking martian or machine on the drums, and i only knew a couple of songs also but it didn't matter i was mesmerized by the whole show from begining to the end. they really don't play a bunch of songs like PJ but their songs are long i can only compare it to a PINK FLOYD TYPE OF SHOW ......
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  • CJMST3KCJMST3K Posts: 9,722
    josevolution wrote:
    well if you are a drummer this guy will absolutly blow you away i thought i was watching a fucking martian or machine on the drums, and i only knew a couple of songs also but it didn't matter i was mesmerized by the whole show from begining to the end. they really don't play a bunch of songs like PJ but their songs are long i can only compare it to a PINK FLOYD TYPE OF SHOW ......

    I like your description of it being a PF show... an experience, eh? Can't wait!

    no opening acts though?
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    *Jones Beach 8/23/00 *Jones Beach 8/24/00 *Jones Beach 8/25/00
    *Mansfield 8/29/00 *Mansfield 8/30/00 *Nassau 4/30/03 *Nissan VA 7/1/03
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  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 29,249
    CJMST3K wrote:
    I like your description of it being a PF show... an experience, eh? Can't wait!

    no opening acts though?

    no not at the show i saw i really can't see anyone trying to open for this band ,i hope i can at least see them at ATLANTIC CITY this june .......
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  • xscorchoxscorcho Posts: 409
    i saw them the last two nights... the floor had assigned seating so there was no pit.... dont know about other venues.
  • CServantCServant Posts: 1,182
    I'm going next Wednesday with a Buddy of mine who got tix through the Tool Fan Club. I'm also a "casual fan" and only know 3-4 of their songs, but am looking forward to the whole specticle. I did see Perfect Circle open for NIN @ 5 years ago, and they ROCKED, so I'm expecting a good show. I do fell a bit selfish though as I don't think I'll get as much out of it as a rabid fan, but hey, my money spends the same way as theirs.
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  • xscorchoxscorcho Posts: 409
    CServant wrote:
    I do fell a bit selfish though as I don't think I'll get as much out of it as a rabid fan, .

    perhaps this will change... i have heard of many people who arent really fans and then once they see them live, everything changes!

    btw.. the last two shows also had no alcohol served... not sure if it was just here that happened or if its for all the shows....so that cut down on the obnoxiousness.
  • intodeepintodeep Posts: 7,228
    I think in the early 90's with undertow out there may have been a rougher crowd, but it has tamed down or become more reasonable (depending on your point of view) recently.

    I saw them on their Lateralius tour and there was no pit.
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  • VINNY GOOMBAVINNY GOOMBA Posts: 1,816
    As far as the crowd / pit goes, it really all depends on what they play.

    I was up front for a show in 2001, and it was CRAZY. Not really a pit so much, but that whole crowd WAVE effect, which might be scary to some, since it gets incredibly hot, and you're practically lifted off the ground by the people surrounding you, and have little control of where you're being pushed... Also, they started off that show with THE GRUDGE, which had everyone goin nuts from the first second they started playing-- once they played the Disposition/Reflection/Triad part of the set, everyone chilled out a lot.

    The second time on that same tour was at Continental, and we were the back part of the GA section. Way more chilled out back there.

    I saw them twice since their last record came out... Once the venue had all seats (in NYC), and the other was at Continental, and I was pretty blackout for that one, but the crowd definitely seemed more mellow this time around. I say it definitely has to do with their choice of songs on this past tour, especially the new material, which takes longer to build, and has less parts that straight kick ass and make people flip out.

    Whoever described it as an "experience" kind of like floyd had hit it pretty good. Although, they were better during the lateralus tour, and there was a lot more to "experience." For instance, if you've ever seen the "Schism" video, with the 2 aliens that become one at the end-- Those guys were hanging from their feet 25 feet above the stage, dangling, twirling around, swinging wildly back and forth for a few songs (Parabol and Parabola, I believe). They also came out and started doing that bugged out walk (on all fours with their heads bobbing) around the stage during Schism. They've also traded in all their video screens for a big screen on the stage, which is cool, but I liked watching all their crazy videos as the songs were playing better the other way. I dont' even know what the screen stage would look like from the floor, but it's pretty cool if you're above the stage looking down.

    The sets this past tour were about an hour and a half, but they've done 2 hour sets. Like PJ, the openers are usually someone you'll really dig, or really hate. But they usually have an opener. I think the last ones were Isis and Mastodon, I've seen them with 2 Mike Patton Projects: Fantomas and Tomahawk. Both were pretty crazy, as you'd imagine.

    Sorry for the book. ha ha. You just might want to stay back a good 30 rows if you want to avoid the crowd bein too crazy. Enjoy yourself, and I recommend listening to all their music before you go! Especially the new album-- not because it's my favorite, but at least you'll know a few of the songs they're playing. Actually, you can't go wrong with buying Aenima, Lateralus, and 10,000 Days before the show and listening. 95% of everything they play will be from these 3 albums.

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  • RockinInCanadaRockinInCanada Posts: 2,016
    Came through Edmonton last summer and it was a seated floor.....
  • dave grolschdave grolsch Posts: 730
    josevolution wrote:
    last time i saw them the crowd was very cool no moshing at all you should be ok .........
    yeah same here
  • dont_go_on_medont_go_on_me Posts: 877
    I saw them last fall and the pit looked uncomfortable to say the least.
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  • AbookamongstthemanyAbookamongstthemany Posts: 8,209
    CJMST3K wrote:
    ps: if Tool can play "mid-sized markets" like Richmond, why can't PJ?

    Seriously, Tool is playing the Bi-lo Center in Greenville, SC June 5th, 30 mins from me (we got tickets and it's my 1st time!! :D) I don't see why Pearl Jam won't come back there. They sold out the Bi-lo Center in '98. They were also the 2nd act to ever play there so it would be neat to see them come back.
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  • SpinMeRoundRollMeOvrSpinMeRoundRollMeOvr Posts: 437
    I'd be weary about the crowd. I saw them in San Diego this past summer... they had to stop the show because people were getting crushed. Apparently 15 people were hospitalized... one guy was really badly injured. I saw him get pulled out... he wasn't moving.

    All I'm saying is be careful. People can be stupid.
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  • xscorchoxscorcho Posts: 409
    SpinMeRoundRollMeOvr wrote:
    I'd be weary about the crowd. I saw them in San Diego this past summer... they had to stop the show because people were getting crushed. Apparently 15 people were hospitalized... one guy was really badly injured. I saw him get pulled out... he wasn't moving.

    All I'm saying is be careful. People can be stupid.

    yea but the last two nights were in san diego and the crowd was fine..... you always gotta be careful when seeing an intense band like tool, you just never know what people are gonna do.
  • funkymonkfunkymonk Posts: 279
    I saw them in Manchester, NH last year. I was right at the front on the floor and could only tolerate it for half of the show. A lot of pushing and shoving and crowd waves. When I moved back to around the middle of the floor a huge mosh pit broke out. Security were pretty anal about breaking them up. Having those distractions kind of took away from the show. I'm going to try and see them when they play Portland in July.
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