"Indie"
Odin
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A comment I just read on YouTube......
"All indie bands sound identical. There's never been an easier time for the music industry to make money out of the stupid empty soul-less little pop culture student morons. People who listen to indie don't care about music, they care about image. That's why the industry keeps churning out bands that look (and sound) identical; the insecure popularity-conscious indie crowd will know it's ok to listen to a new band who are exactly the same as some other band they already know it's 'cool' to like.
The irony about indie is that 'independent' used to be about being different and doing things your own way (hence the word 'independent'). But now, indie has spawned a whole generation of ignorant pricks, whose main concern is adapting their lifestyle and personality to appease some 'indie scene', lest their peers would consider them un-cool."
Discuss.
"All indie bands sound identical. There's never been an easier time for the music industry to make money out of the stupid empty soul-less little pop culture student morons. People who listen to indie don't care about music, they care about image. That's why the industry keeps churning out bands that look (and sound) identical; the insecure popularity-conscious indie crowd will know it's ok to listen to a new band who are exactly the same as some other band they already know it's 'cool' to like.
The irony about indie is that 'independent' used to be about being different and doing things your own way (hence the word 'independent'). But now, indie has spawned a whole generation of ignorant pricks, whose main concern is adapting their lifestyle and personality to appease some 'indie scene', lest their peers would consider them un-cool."
Discuss.
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i think maybe i just like all these new southern rock sounding bands.
I love:
built to spill
modest mouse
and you will know us by the trail of the dead
minus the bear
dredg
and others
I think the folks in those bands make music because they dig making it not because they are trying to fit into a scene. Even after modest mouse and built to spill moved to a major label they continued to make the same kind of music they had in teh past.
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And the award for the most intelligent (or only intelligent) comment on Youtube goes to...............whoever wrote that.
PS: i'm not being sarcastic.
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Ok, rant over. I just miss the days when indie meant great bands on labels like SST and Sub Pop.
a few bands reject whatever is popular and start playing a new sound, then it catches on and gets popular and all the bands get lumped into one vague category, then other bands clone their sound, then moron fans start basing there lives around it and wear whatever clothes the bands wear, then the genre gets overexposed, people start selling out, and then some other sound comes along. repeat.
I think that's a pretty valid point. I guess for some reason many people (myself included) find the current indie hipster trend even more obnoxious than past homogenization of popular genres. They seem to have a snobbier attitude about it all.
The NME's use of 'indie' on the other hand fits that description, but people shouldn't be whining about it. Find decent music and listen to it or shut up. I don't care what everyone else is listening to as long as I have some bands I like. In my opinion, whining about 'commercial' music is pretty much saying "I'm too lazy to look for decent music". I REALLY can't stand it.
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Spoon is indie in the sense that they release albums on an independent label, not because they try to "sound indie." I think a lot of "indie" bands have forgotten about why they have that label and are caught up in thinking about it a genre more than anything else.
Don't forget Dinosaur Jr, and Sebadoh.
most of the shows i go to are not like that but i went to see Boris in Philly 2 years ago and it was sort of like that... the Twilight Zone. very weird.
If anything I think the big record company 10 year 10 record deal is going away. I think record companies want to sign talent but then get a return on everything to get thier money back. Ultimately everyone in the music industry is in it for thier livelyhood. It's about making a living the way you want definately. With popularity comes strange bedfellows... but ultimately... we all make our own musical choices for whatever reasons.
Humans do tend to like a feeling of belonging and solidarity whatever that group may be
If you are so good that the scene comes to you... I don't think you should have to appologise for it.
They're too busy wedging their nuts into a pair of ladies jeans from top shop to give a shit about integrity!
I totally agree with the youtube guy. Of course there are some great true 'indie' bands out there, who unfortunately get lumped in with a load of shitty bands, but then that happens in every musical scene.
if i was a musician, i would go crazy if i had to sign a contract saying that such and such a label owns my songs that i created and i cannot do as i wish with them. or maybe someone can buy them and start putting them on commercials so i can look like a "sellout". does michael jackson and the Beatles ring a bell for anyone?
I don't think it's much different for indie than for any other genre. There are a few bands who really stand out and tons of others that just sound the same. Classic Rock is a good example. In indie, bands like The Strokes, Arctic Monkeys, and Interpol were originators and tons of subsequent bands just copy that sound.
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