Who else is looking forward to Metallica’s 2008 release?
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For the first time in a decade, I am optimistic about an upcoming Metallica release. I get the feeling that, with their backs to the wall, they will deliver big-time. They are working with the legendary Rick Rubin on this one and have spent the past few years recording tons of songs in the studio. As Lars mentioned during an interview last year, St. Anger was more of an “experiment” album and now Metallica is going to return to their roots and give the fans what they really want. If Kirk is right and this album brings them back to where they were 15-25 years ago, watch the bandwagon begin to re-load.
For the record, I’m not some pussy that got into Metallica after hearing “Nothing Else Matters” played ad nauseam on MTV and radio. No, my one friend and his older brother introduced me to the band’s first five albums when I was only 11 or 12. And unlike Pearl Jam's fans, Metallica fans recognize the greatness of the band's earlier, heavier works.
For the record, I’m not some pussy that got into Metallica after hearing “Nothing Else Matters” played ad nauseam on MTV and radio. No, my one friend and his older brother introduced me to the band’s first five albums when I was only 11 or 12. And unlike Pearl Jam's fans, Metallica fans recognize the greatness of the band's earlier, heavier works.
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Believe me, if someone were to call you pussy, I doubt it'd be the gentlemen at this forum
The problem with that last thing you said is that unlike Metallica, PJ got better with age
About being optimistic, I have nothing to look forward to from metallica. Haven't read anything about the new album...besides, way much better thrash bands out there with a TRUE thrash sound. Thrash is getting stronger every year nowadays. Metallica pretty much did what they had to do in that area already.
Of course, life can surprise you...
Actually, I don't have my hopes up too high, but it will be interesting to see what they come up with. I'll definitely check it out at least. When is this suppossed to be coming out?
I'm not holding out much hope here but I am still excited to hear how it sounds. Just keep Kirk away from the mic please
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but yeah, I'm psyched about the album. Slayer's most recent album was one of their best and they HAVE been doing the same thing pretty much over and over. so if they can still do it, I sure as hell think Metallica can.
Hey, I just chucked another buck in the tin like I do every time I hear," I'm an original fan, they've done nothing good since KEA/Justice/MOP blah blah", and thanks to you I now have enough to buy a brand new SUV, load it up with blondes and beer and spend the next year whooping it up.
There was a period of time where I swear I saw them in concert like 12 times. But it was probably more like 5 times. But they are badass in concert when they are on their game.
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Before St Anger was released they said the same thing about it, that it was a return to harder, longer songs.
I'm with you on this one. It's been done. Build on the past, and pave the road to the future.
Metallica is an okay band IMO. The only thing that bothers me about them is that they take a song, and start it off incredibly...then go absolutely nowhere with it. Examples.....ONE and FADE TO BLACK. When those to songs start off I'm blown away......but by the end I'm bored with it.
Lightning, Puppets, Justice all basically have the same blueprint: Thrasher opener, long epic second song, big ballad on the fourth song, long instrumental at the end, the only real difference is that on Puppets and Justice they closed with a thrasher too. I think the first two are great records, but I think Justice is a bit weak. It has a thin, lifeless sound, the instrumental track is terrible, and most of the songs just aren't up to par from the previous records. It's a pale imitation of their previous two records. It's easy to see why they felt they needed to dramatically alter their sound.
My complaint is that they do this on the Loads. They sound like they'd be fine by making decent heavy mainstream songs, but then they draw them out way beyond the point they should just to make them seem more... ummm... metal?
Hell, if they'd tightened some of the songs on the Loads up, deleted all the filler, then they'd would have had a pretty good record on their hands.
St. Anger was ok. They need to realize that" long" doesn't always = "good." many of the songs there would be pretty good if they tightened them up, instead of letting them meander on.
Beat me to it.
Not a huge Metallica fan, but I actually didn't mind stuff from load and reload. I actually find Metallica fans hilarious because they are so hardcore about the early stages of the bands career. Bands that keep making the same records over and over just suck. I have to give Metallica some credit for trying different things, despite the backlash from their "true" fans.
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but you should definitely see a progression among their first 4 albums that eventually culminated in And Justice For All. I think it would have been impossible for them to push the envelope further because several of the Justice songs were too difficult for them to even recreate live.
so they parred it down some and we got the Black album, which I liked as well. I started listening to them somewhere between the MOP and AJFA albums, but I was not one of the fans that disliked the Black album. I was in high school at the time and honestly, I didn't see a huge difference at the time (though I DO see a bigger difference now).
the 2 Load albums though, ugh. I think there's a difference between PROgressing into a different band and REgressing into a different band. I think that was a big sellout point. they were hanging out with the guys from Soundgarden and AIC at that point and I really think they thought they would lose all popularity if they didn't try to go "grunge". there WERE a handfull of songs on those 2 that were *decent*, and I agree with whoever said they should've took the best songs and put them into 1 GOOD album rather than 2 mediocre albums.
as for St Anger, I just flat can't listen to it. I applaud anyone who can. there may actually be some great songs on there, but the production and drums make it unlistenable for me. whoever "produced" that album should not be allowed to produce another album again. and if I'm not mistaken, it was Bob Rock. so I definitely think he may have had the band members (particularly Lars) fuck the production up too much. the drum sound in that album is awful. but I know production shouldn't be a problem with Rick Rubin involved.
PS. I understand the point, but I wouldn't classify "Fade to Black", "Sanitarium", and "One" as 'ballads'. yeah, they start off slower passed, but they are still very much METAL songs and are 100% heavier than what most bands ever put out. "Every Rose Has It's Thorns" was a ballad, those 3 Metallica songs were far from that.
I'll actually give their new CD a chance when it comes out, though. If I'm not impressed, I'm through with the band. Period.
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That's an interesting thought. I'd like to hear Kirk play with other people too. As quiet as he is, I like him the best.
lmao ! Good one!