censorship on this board – please explain

blondieblue227

Wow……
I just want to say that the censorship on this board has gotten too strict.
I’m not talking about the first hot Eddie thread either. I understand why that was deleted.
I wish somebody would explain it to me, but I don’t understand it. Seems like there’s a double standard.
AND one reason I’m a fan is because I thought the band was cool about sharing things. …for the love of the music. But that was back then and people do change. But I want to know what changed? Can there be some kind of official statement? Was there an official statement I missed? Don’t leave me in the dark!

Examples:
Entertainment Weekly and imdb have pics of Eddie’s solo tour, yet we are not allowed to post pics. Is Eddie suing EW and imdb?

There’s hundreds of concert clips on youtube but self pollution radio videos were removed.

Why, why, why?

4Powers20

and this thread will be deleted.

genie

cause sometimes mods are on dope - that's when all kinds of shit gets allowed to be written

but most of the time mods are on speed - that's when we can't even fart in here

blondieblue227

4Powers20 wrote:

and this thread will be deleted.

i thought it would be
but still i want an answer.

genie

blondieblue227 wrote:

i thought it would be
but still i want an answer.

i've given you an answer you don't need any other explanation

hopethatuchoke

i think the biggest problem with this is the fact that eddie and the band are so outspoken about many things yet they give their company free reign to censor alot of stuff here. How is any of this different than the band being censored at Lolla? Granted that was a much different situation but censorship is censorship.

red mos

blondieblue227 wrote:

Wow……
I just want to say that the censorship on this board has gotten too strict.
I’m not talking about the first hot Eddie thread either. I understand why that was deleted.
I wish somebody would explain it to me, but I don’t understand it. Seems like there’s a double standard.
AND one reason I’m a fan is because I thought the band was cool about sharing things. …for the love of the music. But that was back then and people do change. But I want to know what changed? Can there be some kind of official statement? Was there an official statement I missed? Don’t leave me in the dark!

Examples:
Entertainment Weekly and imdb have pics of Eddie’s solo tour, yet we are not allowed to post pics. Is Eddie suing EW and imdb?

There’s hundreds of concert clips on youtube but self pollution radio videos were removed.

Why, why, why?

Here is my best guess:

For the EV solo shows, The magazine people probably paid big bucks to Ed to review and snap photos of the show, unless the magazines were given credentials, because they are an entertainment magazine and they report on shows, and it was strictly done for Business purposes.

The 95 era videos that have surfaced were removed because PJ has an open taping policy audio wise, but not video, so it is a violation of copyright laws via youtube. However, people do trade dvd's on here, so I don't really know how strict the policy is.
For the EV solo shows they were supposed to be kept as something special and were specifically written not to be traded. For the boots that did surface, the mods are banning people that are giving links (same thing with album leaks).

I'm sure for PJ shows the recording policy is still be allowed.

TrixieCat

blondieblue227 wrote:

Wow……
I just want to say that the censorship on this board has gotten too strict.
I’m not talking about the first hot Eddie thread either. I understand why that was deleted.
I wish somebody would explain it to me, but I don’t understand it. Seems like there’s a double standard.
AND one reason I’m a fan is because I thought the band was cool about sharing things. …for the love of the music. But that was back then and people do change. But I want to know what changed? Can there be some kind of official statement? Was there an official statement I missed? Don’t leave me in the dark!

Examples:
Entertainment Weekly and imdb have pics of Eddie’s solo tour, yet we are not allowed to post pics. Is Eddie suing EW and imdb?

There’s hundreds of concert clips on youtube but self pollution radio videos were removed.

Why, why, why?

Are you posting pictures you took yourself at the solo shows?
Well then yes, you have your answer right there. They were trying to enforce a very strict no camera policy.
And if Entertainment Weekly has photos, they were obviously granted permission to print them. They are not some small time rag.

Brez

It's a message board.

the wolf

i think the vid from 95 that was taken away was from the bands private collection.

idk about you guys, but i would not want anyone here to have access to my private home vids. : )

so its more just a "respect the band" kinda deal i think.

3inputchick

I was recently a victim of a ban when all I was talking about was my love of my shower head....

Go Figure!

But when in rome.... so I'll play fair.

pjtradeking

3inputchick wrote:

I was recently a victim of a ban when all I was talking about was my love of my shower head....

Go Figure!

But when in rome.... so I'll play fair.

Then I should have been banned simply for the visions I was having! How did that work out for you btw??

gfraser

4Powers20 wrote:

and this thread will be deleted.

: P

3inputchick

pjtradeking wrote:

Then I should have been banned simply for the visions I was having! How did that work out for you btw??

Since i was banned for all that time i spent alot of time in the shower...

pjtradeking

3inputchick wrote:

Since i was banned for all that time i spent alot of time in the shower...

You are horrible, you know that right?

Given2Fly...SD

I too hate censorship and would appreciate some answers

washedinblack91

when i heard that for the ed solo tour that no one was allowed to video tape anything i just figured it had to do with copyright laws since a lot of the songs played were from the itw soundtrack. i figured that those who made the movie or whatever might feel like they own at least some of the rights to the songs and there might be some legal issues if people taped those songs. im not fluent in legal mumbo jumbo but thats just what i thought happened.

markymark550

It's a privately owned message board and the owners/moderators can choose to censor whoever they want for whatever reason they want without having to give explanation. If they feel someone has gone beyond the limits of what they allow, they should be able to lock/delete threads and ban users.

einatshaul

Even though we may be curious and want to have every piece of info, video, images ever related to this band - some of this stuff out there is simply un-authorized, stolen material, they have every legal right to reclaim it and take it down. And no, the audience shots and recordings of Eddie's shows are a violation of Ten Club’s restrictions, and there is nothing you can say to change that, even if you really really want to. If you have access to un-authorized material, don't be blunt and try to share it on the band's official message board!

blondieblue227

i feel like a dumbass now.

but still i'm glad i asked!!!!!!!!!

hehehehe

einatshaul

blondieblue227 wrote:

i feel like a dumbass now.

but still i'm glad i asked!!!!!!!!!

hehehehe

You're not a dumbass, you're just curious and excited about this band and want to share it as much as the rest of us...

blondieblue227

einatshaul wrote:

You're not a dumbass, you're just curious and excited about this band and want to share it as much as the rest of us...

thank you.
that's sweet.

Clarice

blondieblue227 wrote:

i feel like a dumbass now.

but still i'm glad i asked!!!!!!!!!

hehehehe

You were right to ask..

ECM

My 2 cents....

I've never been a fan of permanent /death penalty banning here. For those who have made thousands of posts, it is certain you are going to make a questionable posts now or then.

It just forces those users to go to Red Mosquito, BRY and/or Expressobeans so they can talk further shit about this board and/or some people who post here.

Thus, it encourages more cliques and divide within the PJ community.

... but again, this is a private board and they can really do what they feel is appropriate.

pjsyco

markymark550 wrote:

It's a privately owned message board and the owners/moderators can choose to censor whoever they want for whatever reason they want without having to give explanation. If they feel someone has gone beyond the limits of what they allow, they should be able to lock/delete threads and ban users.

Love the Colonial Center quote...fucking hilarious.

Kel Varnsen

TrixieCat wrote:

And if Entertainment Weekly has photos, they were obviously granted permission to print them. They are not some small time rag.

I think you nailed it. Any pictures that EW printed in their magazine are owned by EW and people can't just take them and reprint them anywhere else. It would be the same thing if you made a movie and tried to use Even Flow in the soundtrack without getting permission of the band.

sk8nshoot1

pjtradeking wrote:

You are horrible, you know that right?

But I bet she's really clean....

U R A Crazy Breed

3inputchick wrote:

Since i was banned for all that time i spent alot of time in the shower...

it's my soap and my shower and I'll wash "it" as FAST as i want!!

Pegasus

einatshaul wrote:

Even though we may be curious and want to have every piece of info, video, images ever related to this band - some of this stuff out there is simply un-authorized, stolen material, they have every legal right to reclaim it and take it down. And no, the audience shots and recordings of Eddie's shows are a violation of Ten Club’s restrictions, and there is nothing you can say to change that, even if you really really want to. If you have access to un-authorized material, don't be blunt and try to share it on the band's official message board!

they can do what they want on this board, but right now they're forcing censorship on other boards by threatening both the mods and the posters!! :mad:

and in the end it makes not 1 jot of difference: the bootlegs and video links will be trading like crazy! emails/PMs/social networks/blogs/physical copies, you name it.. it's actually quite fun and exciting

..mmm maybe it's a covert tactic to get us to trade on a more personal basis instead of the anonymous torrents we got used to and so consolidate the community?
though in a Us (the people) against Them (the authority) way..which really isn't positive at all..unless it's an even more covert way to train the yanks for political resistance?

kidding aside, it excludes the fans that don't have as many connections, since their sneaky scare tactics are putting people off sharing with noobs/unknown people (entrapment anyone?) :(
We've had years of habit at sharing, it's not going to go away, not without destroying a lot of the good spirit of the community (and before people say it's not the PJ recordings, do you really think it won't happen there too? why not?..they've already killed the official ones, no explanation either).

I really can't start to understand the direction that's been taken.. all it's doing is antagonising people...

[size=-2](1st person pming me asking for stuff is winning a 1-way ticket to 'dumbass, did you actually read what I said?' land)[/size]

SBC03

funny, i was goin to look for self pollution on utube and they are gone.

what a pisser

NotoriousIMP

Although censorship in any form is wrong, the bottom line is. This is a corporate message board, run by a corporation. Dont kid yourself. Pearl Jam is big business. Theres a method to their madness. And they will do (right or wrong) whatever they have to to keep a limit to what is accessed.

Thats just my 2 cents. Not that you asked.