I've got a hate on for Jack Johnson and this made me laugh

Joe2TheRevenge

jamie uk wrote:

Joe2TheRevenge wrote:

i think people who review reviewers are snobs and cocks.

god job I don't give a flying fuck what you think then. lol

I think people who throw out random personal insults to folks they don't even know are very rude and ill mannered, in fact I don't just 'think' it, I'd say it's a true fact.

are you talking about people who insult reviewers?

nuffingman

catefrances wrote:

if hes a journo and its his job to review gigs then he needs to listen to the music to review, right?

im not a journo and ive listened to JJ and thats why i no longer listen to him.

oh and wheres the shame that i find the review amusing, even slightly? man you JJ fans are so sensitive.

Never said I was a JJ fan. I'm not. I just thought the journos review was smug and ridiculing.

eMMI

Cuntified C wrote:

I just think he's boring.
He offends me insofar as there are much more interesting
musicians out there who don't make the break but he his bland,
uninspired crap gets heard all over the place.

how is it his fault that some bands/artists don't make the break? I didn't know Jack Johnson ruled the world of music.

jamie uk

Joe2TheRevenge wrote:

are you talking about people who insult reviewers?

I thought his review was smug, and self absorbed. I don't see any point in reviewing a show if you have little or no interest in what is going on there, and an obvious disregard for the people who attended it. I insulted him sure, based on the fact that he insulted and mocked everyone who was at that show, and I don't see that he has any right to, I don't think anyone has a right to point and make comments about others for no good reason other than to make themself feel superior to them. That is why I called him a cock, I based my opinion on those facts.

What exactly is your problem dude? I'd be interested to know.

jamie uk

catefrances wrote:

if hes a journo and its his job to review gigs then he needs to listen to the music to review, right?

im not a journo and ive listened to JJ and thats why i no longer listen to him.

oh and wheres the shame that i find the review amusing, even slightly? man you JJ fans are so sensitive.

I wouldn't class myself as a JJ fan, he's ok, but I don't own any of his records. I don't see the point in sending a reviewer to a show when he obviously has no interest, in fact has an objective not to enjoy it. It's like sending a rugby journalist to report on a soccer match, and a rugby journo who has a loathsome view of soccer for that matter. What's the point? Okay, maybe the review can be seen as slightly amusing, but it doesn't take away the fact that it's merely a personal attack on a group of people, sensitive they may be, I don't know, but who wouldn't be a bit sensitive of someone taking the piss to that extent?
I'm sure some modern 'indie' paper could send a young reviewer to PJ show, and they could make humorous remarks about how dated the band are, how pointless and pathetic they are these days, and how sad and tragic we all are for being there....being detrimental is a piece of piss, it's the easiest thing in the world to do.
That is the only point I was making. k?

catefrances

jamie uk wrote:

I wouldn't class myself as a JJ fan, he's ok, but I don't own any of his records. I don't see the point in sending a reviewer to a show when he obviously has no interest, in fact has an objective not to enjoy it. It's like sending a rugby journalist to report on a soccer match, and a rugby journo who has a loathsome view of soccer for that matter. What's the point? Okay, maybe the review can be seen as slightly amusing, but it doesn't take away the fact that it's merely a personal attack on a group of people, sensitive they may be, I don't know, but who wouldn't be a bit sensitive of someone taking the piss to that extent?
I'm sure some modern 'indie' paper could send a young reviewer to PJ show, and they could make humorous remarks about how dated the band are, how pointless and pathetic they are these days, and how sad and tragic we all are for being there....being detrimental is a piece of piss, it's the easiest thing in the world to do.
That is the only point I was making. k?

i would love to read that cause i could look at it from the pov that i am probably nothing like he/she is describing, nor is the band for that matter. i certainly wouldnt take offense to it.
the reviewer of the JJ gig obviously had an agenda and HEY!! guess what?? it worked. ignoring it would be a better move instead of feeding his cockheadedness.
i get your point though jamie.

g under p

restlesssoul wrote:

sorry, mother Teresa. please, its just a saying, i dont sit in a room and stare at a picture of him and send him hate vibes. its just a casual informal hate for the man.

I'm glad....*Don't be hating*....far from a Mother Tereesa.

Peace

LikeAnOpeningBandForTheSun

Igottago wrote:

I'm not a fan of Jack Johnson, I agree that he's pretty bland. But I think the writer's a bit of a knob for trying to peg the crowd as a specific type of person. I could write an article about too cool indie hipsters all being the same as well. There's no shortage of them going to shows all looking the same, and listening to some garbage band who is trying to be another Joy Division.

heh would this be a bad time to mention the crowd at the DMB concert i went to last week?

Strangest Tribe

MrSmith wrote:

i like a few of his songs, but sitting through his show at Bonaroo was BORING until Eddie came out. People were literally falling asleep. not passing out. falling asleep.

seems like he has talent, but has no desire to try something new at all.

I don't remember this at Bonnaroo, it seemed like the audience was singing along and having a real good time with Jack.

What kind of person busts on Jack Johnson???

He's a real mellow and likeable fella.

I don't understand people and their need to spew hatred always...

youngster

I went to the JJ concert in Mansfield in August and I have to admit, I kinda enjoyed it. My wife loves him which is why I bought the tickets and he has a few catchy songs so I didn't mind going. What surprised me is that all 20,000 or so people in attendance stood the ENTIRE time, which to me seemed strange. I'm used to it at a PJ show because they're music is so upbeat and diverse. But there were hippie types dancing crazily to these lullabyes. It was actually pretty funny. But all in all it def wasn't the worst show I have ever been to.

Gardenparty

F-Stop blues is a great tune

There's some other really good ones too. I'll pass on Banana Pancakes and Mudfootball though.

I always wonder why people flame the dude though. Maybe it's because of his headlining slots this summer. He's pretty harmless and a wicked cool guy in person.

Joe2TheRevenge

jamie uk wrote:

I thought his review was smug, and self absorbed. I don't see any point in reviewing a show if you have little or no interest in what is going on there, and an obvious disregard for the people who attended it. I insulted him sure, based on the fact that he insulted and mocked everyone who was at that show, and I don't see that he has any right to, I don't think anyone has a right to point and make comments about others for no good reason other than to make themself feel superior to them. That is why I called him a cock, I based my opinion on those facts.

What exactly is your problem dude? I'd be interested to know.

hypocrisy.

Jeremy1012

jamie uk wrote:

Jack Johnson is ok, what makes me laugh is a pretentious journalist trying to write a comedy sketch instead of just reviewing the concert. Is the author so wrapped up in his own little part in this that he really thinks his 'whimsical' observations are that important? Does he think anyone who was at the concert gives a shit what some musical snob thinks about them, or Jack Johnson?
Is it wrong that people go and enjoy themselves by relaxing? Would he prefer a Metallica show, where half the audience is so brain dead they want to smash each others heads in?
I don't understand his point at all, there is no right or wrong in music, good and bad yes....but that's all a matter of taste isn't it?
The 'journalist' who wrote the review is a cock.

I'm not adverse to this style of music criticism at all, it CAN be really funny and there's no need to take it so seriously, the writer would be probably be the first to admit he's baselessly smug and obnoxious. This particular review was just not that funny though. The writer is obviously not half as witty as he thinks he is so it's neither a helpful music review nor an especially enjoyable piece of humourous writing.

Jeremy1012

Gardenparty wrote:

I always wonder why people flame the dude though. Maybe it's because of his headlining slots this summer. He's pretty harmless and a wicked cool guy in person.

The worst possible thing that can be said about any music is that it's "harmless". THAT'S why I don't like Jack Johnson. What the hell is the point of inconsequential music?

I tell you, I'd rather have someone tell me that my music was the worst thing they'd ever heard than tell me that it's harmless.

There's a difference between mellow and dull. I've yet to hear anything by this man that even gets close to escaping the latter charge.

restlesssoul

Jeremy1012 wrote:

The worst possible thing that can be said about any music is that it's "harmless". THAT'S why I don't like Jack Johnson. What the hell is the point of inconsequential music?

I tell you, I'd rather have someone tell me that my music was the worst thing they'd ever heard than tell me that it's harmless.

agreed, well said.

i did get a kick out of the review though and im sure the writer was smirking the whole way writing that piece, he knew what he was doing.

jamie uk

Jeremy1012 wrote:

I'm not adverse to this style of music criticism at all, it CAN be really funny and there's no need to take it so seriously, the writer would be probably be the first to admit he's baselessly smug and obnoxious. This particular review was just not that funny though. The writer is obviously not half as witty as he thinks he is so it's neither a helpful music review nor an especially enjoyable piece of humourous writing.

I'm not overly fond of JJ, as I've said, I just find this bit of journo-ism a bit shallow. It's a pretty pointless act to go along and ridicule people in your head, because basically they like something different to what you like. Not meaning to be patronosing (god forbid) but I know there was a time when I would have maybe found this funnier, or seen his point so to speak, I guess I just mellowed with age. Each to his own I think, if you wanna lay on the ground, smoke a doobie and listen to Jack Johnson, then where's the harm?....not a big deal really, apart from that dude trying to make it one :rolleyes:

norm

Jeremy1012 wrote:

The worst possible thing that can be said about any music is that it's "harmless". THAT'S why I don't like Jack Johnson. What the hell is the point of inconsequential music?

I tell you, I'd rather have someone tell me that my music was the worst thing they'd ever heard than tell me that it's harmless.

There's a difference between mellow and dull. I've yet to hear anything by this man that even gets close to escaping the latter charge.

casn you explain this jamie....i'm confused as what "harmless" music is and what isn't.....

jamie uk

Joe2TheRevenge wrote:

hypocrisy.

dude, I'm loathe to keep responding to you. But I suppose you are managing, in some tiny way, to get on my tits.
Where's the hypocrisy? I explained why I thought he was a cock, wether you agree or not is a different matter. He slammed people (albeit in a supposedly comic manner) for no reason other than they were different to him, liked different things. I don't see that as fair game, sorry. We're all different, we all like different things, why slate someone for it? Now, why don't you try and grow up a bit eh? That'd be nice. Let's leave it alone, this place doesn't need any more feuding, stop trying to cause one.

MyMorningPearls

NewDamage wrote:

Ever hear Nick Drake? He did it better, 35 years ago

i'm a big fan of nick drake but i don't see the comparison with jack johnson. not the same music at all....that said, i agree with the review of jack. saw him at bonnaroo, as expected i was bored as hell. i don't understand how this guy is so popular. very mediocre indeed.

NewDamage

MyMorningPearls wrote:

i'm a big fan of nick drake but i don't see the comparison with jack johnson. not the same music at all

Vocally he is quite similar to Drake at times, both in tone and delivery.