Tool 'Rosetta Stoned'

BetterManningNYG

Igottago wrote:

speaking of Tool fans I can't stand these halfwit goth kids who think they are huge Tool fans, but fail to understand...they don't get the irony or even the comedy in some of Tool's stuff, they are just too busy taking it so seriously they have to paint their nails black and draw pentagrams all over themselves.

all great rock bands have fans that fall into three different categories:

1) "stupid frat boy assholes"
2) "nerdy music snob douchebags"
3) "social clique teenagers who think they're non-conformists"

i fall into two of these categories myself. but i'm not gonna tell you which two, because this would open me up to all sorts of criticism from every fan who falls into different categories than i do. the uniting power of music is truly amazing.

but yeah... goth kids can be very annoying. better than emo kids but not by enough.

BetterManningNYG

depopulationINC wrote:

BTW, right in 2 is my fav off of the CD

my favorite as well.

lalalalaaaaaaaa

Igottago wrote:

speaking of Tool fans I can't stand these halfwit goth kids who think they are huge Tool fans, but fail to understand...they don't get the irony or even the comedy in some of Tool's stuff, they are just too busy taking it so seriously they have to paint their nails black and draw pentagrams all over themselves.

Tool are great, and I get a real kick out of Rosetta Stoned..I think its hilarious..i'm pretty sure there is no intense deep meaning intended.

Tool fans are actually the most hated fanbase I could find for any artist. In google, search for the phrase "hate Tool fans" (exact phrase, not just those words). You'll get more results for that than any other music artist I bet. I tried everyone...Eminem, Metallica, etc.

Dick Jones

Me too.

a5pj

wow great explainitation, i always thought it was something to that effect, a drug user that was telling about his trip. Or it was about a guy who really had that happen to him and couldn't remember it and no one would believe it, more of a "crazy person" per say.

So what exactly is DMT? I've never heard of it.

depopulationINC wrote:

It is a song about a guy who gets rank visions when he got high one night and wanted to see more, so he keeps using and eventually ODs. He ends up in the hospital, freaking out as as body is in complete shock after he is revived. The only person he will trust is 'the man in charge'...the doctor. As always, when one gets high, they 'solve' life's meanings, problems, concerns, etc. It is so vivid, but the next day you can't remember a thing. You remember the end result, but you can't remember the clear cut logic that brought you there...as is stated in the song...didn't write it down.

anyways, when you get to a certian point on DMT you hit a comfort zone. The craziness kinda goes away, and while the same freaky revealtations are laying in front of you, you come to terms with them and know how to deal with it. Like you can make sense of it all. See first the shit hits you, messes with your mind as your mind fights off dillusions and reality...you kinda panic/freak out (trip). Then you take it all in. Once the drugs have one...taken you from reality...you play on those first flashes that your mind took in while fighting off the drugs innitial influence. You begin to believe you are making rationale of the shit that is in your head...logic. Then, it gets blurry, incoherent...so you do more to keep it going...you crave to 'learn' more. Once you come to, all that is gone, leaving you with the beginning and the end where your clear mind has some small play in reallity...its a confusion of reallity and the high. You don't remember the middle stuff that 'made it all make sense.'

The funny thing is, if you ever write this shit down, or record it, then listen / read it the next day...it is funny to see how far gone your mind really was.

this guy kept using, and eventually ODs. He is convinced it was all real. He is the messenger of this reallity, but only rmembers the begginning and end. Because the OD was such a shock on his system he trully believes it is all real. This is often the case when one ODs. Its almost like when they OD and there mind gets rebooted, part of that trip gets imprinted.

BTW, right in 2 is my fav off of the CD

josevolution

i won't try to interpret any of their songs all i know is they fucking rocked my face off best show of 06 for me that is, and yes i'm a die hard PJ fan with over 20 shows under my belt .......

Oh, Jimmy

That song is pretty amazing. The busy-ness of the drums is flat out jaw dropping. Danny Carey is making too much noise for a mere mortal, and its not studio trickery, he pulls it off live. I challenge anyones face to not be rocked off by the song live. That song is fuckin powerful.

Jeremy1012

a5pj wrote:

wow great explainitation, i always thought it was something to that effect, a drug user that was telling about his trip. Or it was about a guy who really had that happen to him and couldn't remember it and no one would believe it, more of a "crazy person" per say.

So what exactly is DMT? I've never heard of it.

DMT is Dimethyltryptamine, a psychedelic or hallucinogen. It's basically the most well known of the tryptamine family of psychedelics. It occurs naturally in south american plants.

a5pj

Jeremy1012 wrote:

DMT is Dimethyltryptamine, a psychedelic or hallucinogen. It's basically the most well known of the tryptamine family of psychedelics. It occurs naturally in south american plants.

cool, thanks.

and this song is amazing live, especially how it sounds almost just like the album with maynard using that voice scrambler thing.

harrymanback

he first too has to blame the drugs (Deadhead Chemistry) since he himself cannot believe the story..

"So light in his way,
Like an apparition, [that]
He had me crying out,
"Fuck me
It's gotta be
the Deadhead Chemistry
The blotter got

on top of me
Got me seein' E-motherfuckin'-T!""

but then he it all becomes clearer to him once he is settled down and realized that with all the times he had been "high", this shit never happened to him before. because of that, he knows he is not on drugs (the Dead ain't touring) so he now thinks it is all real...
"You believe me, don't you?
Please believe what I've just said!
See the Dead ain't touring
And this wasn't all in my head.
See, they took me by the hand
And invited me right in.
Then they showed me something
I don't even know where to begin."

what better person for aliens to take than someone who won;t be believed.

Ewang

BetterManningNYG wrote:

my favorite as well.

I'd have to say 10,000 Days (Wings, Pt. 2) is the best song on the album. It's just such a powerful and moving song. Theres also a cool trick where you open Viginti Tres with Wings for Marie Part 1 in say... Winamp, then open 10,000 Days (Wings, Pt. 2) in Windows Media Player, and if you can sync them good enough it makes 1 song. Some parts aren't perfect, but for the most part the 3 songs go together amazing. Also the 2 "cold flouresences" parts at the end of the wing's songs match up and it's a pretty cool sound.

Binaural

Jeremy1012 wrote:

This is it entirely. Basically I think it's a tongue in cheek response to the fans who took third eye a little too seriously. Sometimes I question Maynard's apparent lack of respect for his fans but in this case it's probably justified.

TOOL are serious musicians who craft carefully constructed and deliberabte music yet time and time again any 'discussion' of their music begins with 'dude I was listening to TOOL last night, and I was so high but I figured out.....'. If I were one of the band members and had to listen to shit like that? I'd probably go postal.

Jeremy1012

Binaural wrote:

TOOL are serious musicians who craft carefully constructed and deliberabte music yet time and time again any 'discussion' of their music begins with 'dude I was listening to TOOL last night, and I was so high but I figured out.....'. If I were one of the band members and had to listen to shit like that? I'd probably go postal.

I agree entirely. One of the things that bothers me about Tool is that, despite how much I love their music, I hate the fact that Tool fans are, in general, or at least have the reputation of being, idiots. I don't like the stigma attached with listening to this band. Why does a band that writes masterpieces like wings pt 2 or Lateralus have a reputation amongst people who don't know much about the music as being a band for pretentious art students who spend their waking hours as high as a kite?

Binaural

Jeremy1012 wrote:

I agree entirely. One of the things that bothers me about Tool is that, despite how much I love their music, I hate the fact that Tool fans are, in general, or at least have the reputation of being, idiots. I don't like the stigma attached with listening to this band. Why does a band that writes masterpieces like wings pt 2 or Lateralus have a reputation amongst people who don't know much about the music as being a band for pretentious art students who spend their waking hours as high as a kite?

I know, but fuck em, if people want to miss out on the music because of a stereotype then let them. Maynard and Adam have made it clear those idiots and their opinions don't merit thought. I tried to listen to an album (Aenima I think) when stoned and it just doesn't make sense, I don't know how others 'do it'. I saw them in Dublin and some friends of mine snorted some coke, I was like "What the fuck?!"

BetterManningNYG

Ewang wrote:

I'd have to say 10,000 Days (Wings, Pt. 2) is the best song on the album. It's just such a powerful and moving song. Theres also a cool trick where you open Viginti Tres with Wings for Marie Part 1 in say... Winamp, then open 10,000 Days (Wings, Pt. 2) in Windows Media Player, and if you can sync them good enough it makes 1 song. Some parts aren't perfect, but for the most part the 3 songs go together amazing. Also the 2 "cold flouresences" parts at the end of the wing's songs match up and it's a pretty cool sound.

tool does a lot of things like this. i've heard that there are several cases of songs on 10,000 days matching up with songs on other albums. i don't know all of them, but here are a few of the ones that involve viginti tres:

http://forums.pearljam.com/showpost.php?p=3188376&postcount=36