two-year Nirvana sabbatical...

Davanita

i discovered nirvana when i was about eleven or twelve, and i've absolutely loved them for a pretty long while. only about two years ago i sort of.. "turned"... i'm not exactly caused me to go through loving nirvana first, then not really liking it anymore, and then i just felt i hated the music, i really couldnt listen to it anymore. i was completly sick and tired of the whole nirvana-hype, the 'worship' for kurt cobain (still, i dont think anybody who blows his own head off and leaving a family behind deserves to be portrayed as a sort of god, as *some people* do...) all of it just bugged the fuck out of me.
so, i spent the last two years hating nirvana (and sometimes their fans even more so) and i didnt listen to them at all.
now, like, last week i think, all of the sudden (dont know why) i pulled out some of the nirvana albums i had statingly put away in a shoebox, and listened to them... and yes, i fell right back into the music again. it's like now, it feels right. i'm ready to listen to it again. and i'm glad. i have to admit i'm much more comfortable not hating nirvana

has anyone else here ever had an experience like that? with nirvana or an other band...?

intodeep

Many years ago i drifted away from nirvana. I unlike you have not found my way back, but to be honest i was never a huge fan.

I can see how and why you would drift away. Glad you went back though and have a renewed interest in the group.

Cannabis

Davanita wrote:

(still, i dont think anybody who blows his own head off and leaving a family behind deserves to be portrayed as a sort of god, as *some people* do...)

i think its pretty cool that kurt cobain got sick and tired of being sick and tired and took himself out. but its not as cool as the way layne staley went or that writer hunter thompson.

PJ_GA

I started to drift away when I got out of high school,lol...about 4 years ago...funny how that works out. But, I will still pull out the cd's every once in a while.

whatsthefreezer

I don't think anybody is worshipping Kurt for his suicide. It was for his songwriting. He wrote some of the best songs ever.

shahril

whatsthefreezer wrote:

I don't think anybody is worshipping Kurt for his suicide. It was for his songwriting. He wrote some of the best songs ever.

see thats the thing i don get anymore. i used to 'worship' kurt n nirvana, believing they were great musicians, n he was a great songwriter.Now..i don kno anymore..
i admit he was a larger than life figure..he made music simple again, made young kids at that time want to pick up the guitar, play a few chords and just make music. For that, he was great. For Smells Like Teen Spirit, he made the single most significant soundtrack for the 90s (cliche but true). SLTS was great because of that. In the immediate larger picture, so was Nevermind. It was great at the time it was released, full of angst etc etc.

But take a step back from all that, and consider the songs as they are, the albums as they are. I did that and I didn find anything particularly impressive. If Kurt's voice was supposedly full of pain and thus magnetic in a sense, Id say Staley's displayed that even more. So is, say..Thom Yorke from Radiohead. So he's not unique in that sense, not even from within the same 'camp' (grunge, seattle whatever u wanna call it), and definitely not in the wider music world.

Nirvana are still VERY influential. When you're young or really just angry, and want something to headbang to, without having to listen to 'noisy' metal drums and deathlike screaming, Nirvana's your band. Simple punk with the occasional pure emotion and almost always catchy riffs. But musical geniuses? I think not.

I kno many of u might disagree, and I can understand how u feel. Nirvana used to be huge to me. I guess I just grew out of that kinda music really.
I need something more 'whole' u kno..thts why i stuck with pj and neve grew out of em! never will!

Davanita

Cannabis wrote:

i think its pretty cool that kurt cobain got sick and tired of being sick and tired and took himself out. but its not as cool as the way layne staley went or that writer hunter thompson.

mind the “leaving a wife and little daughter behind”... it must have been a huge mess and trauma for both courtney and frances..
and i dont think there’s anything fucking cool about a great musician like layne staley going o.d. and being found days after his death... there’s nothing heroic about it.

whatsthefreezer wrote:

I don't think anybody is worshipping Kurt for his suicide. It was for his songwriting. He wrote some of the best songs ever.

dont get me wrong, i think most of kurt’s song writing was absolutely awesome... i guess i just cant concur with suicide. it overshadows everything. i think it’s a very weak move to make, especially when you’re leaving loved ones behind. but then again, i didnt know kurt, obviously.. i dont know what was going on in his life, or his head for that matter.


but you see, i totally agree with you, shahril. nirvana’s music was great, but when you strip it down to the core, and forget about the hype, the fans, the impact the band had on a whole generation probably; when the music is all that’s left, there’s really not much left but music. and it’s cool.. but genius? no. i think not.

The Maestro

I was a huge fan of theirs for a couple years, around 6th or 7th grade, but then one day I just stopped listening to them. I still haven't gone back. I just can't listen to Nirvana anymore, although I thought the use of "Something in the Way" in "Jarhead" was really good.

whatsthefreezer

Davanita wrote:

mind the “leaving a wife and little daughter behind”... it must have been a huge mess and trauma for both courtney and frances..
and i dont think there’s anything fucking cool about a great musician like layne staley going o.d. and being found days after his death... there’s nothing heroic about it.





dont get me wrong, i think most of kurt’s song writing was absolutely awesome... i guess i just cant concur with suicide. it overshadows everything. i think it’s a very weak move to make, especially when you’re leaving loved ones behind. but then again, i didnt know kurt, obviously.. i dont know what was going on in his life, or his head for that matter.


but you see, i totally agree with you, shahril. nirvana’s music was great, but when you strip it down to the core, and forget about the hype, the fans, the impact the band had on a whole generation probably; when the music is all that’s left, there’s really not much left but music. and it’s cool.. but genius? no. i think not.

People always go too far and say genius. People are calling Ben Gibbard a genius right now. Will they say that in a few years? I doubt it. Still a great songwriter though. I've never called Kurt a genius but I do agree that some of his songs are some of the best and catchiest of all time. Do the records sound dated? Yeah they do. But so does Ten. That time period producers we're just going for the "big" sound back then when they should have been going for more rawness. Imagine Nevermind's songs with In Utero's kind of sound, much much better record.

Treyert14

I wouldn't even consider Pearl Jam musical geniuses. Except for maaaaybe Eddie. But anyway I never really liked Nirvana but they do have my respect without them who knows where music would be today.

63schoefflin

I don't think anyone in PJ is a genius in any way. But with that being said they work well together and killed it live for 20+ years... That's why they are one if the best bands ever.

red mos

I drifted away from Nirvana for awhile. Just kind of got tired of the music. The band was done, so I ventured on to Foo fighters. I have recently started listening to Nirvana again though. They have some great stuff.

2-feign-reluctance

Genius is a relative term when it comes to the arts.

jason_bouchard88

It happens. When you listen to the same band over and over again, you eventually get tired of them. It's always nice to take a break every once in awhile. I'm now planning to take a break from listening to the music of the Dutch DJ, Armin van Buuren, as I now saw him in concert last Saturday. Anytime that I see an artist in concert, I don't listen to his/her/their music for at least awhile most likely to try to relive the moments as much as possible. As for the show: amazing concert. Best EDM show I ever went to. Five hours non-stop and the additions of live singers, musicians and dancers really added to the show.